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Anime with an agenda or message?
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Isao Takahata is notorious for putting messages into his movies. The two huge example I can list are Pom Poko (not very subtle) and Grave of the Fireflies.

Pom Poko gets right in your face and tells you about the raccoon's plight with the development of Tokyo and the outlaying districts and what it has done to the local wildlife overall. He is pretty much telling you at the end of the movie (by addressing the audience) that these are things that you can prevent or help.

Grave of the Fireflies is emotionally manipulative to the extreme. A lot of people think it was a very anti-American film. This is wrong. The movie was aimed at the youth of Japan and through the course of the film we see what happens when the youth of the nation (namely the main character) rebels against the well meaning but sometimes harsh rules of their elders. I don't want to spoil the ending for the whole two of you out there that have yet to see the film but lets just say things don't really work out for the main character.
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Posted 12/9/13 , edited 12/9/13

Angerudusto wrote:

Attack on Titan. I don't know what the message particularly is, but every time I watch it, I feel like I'm being manipulated or having some system of values forced onto me.


I think the very obvious message of AoT is more or less showcasing humanity at it's worst, and how even in the face of extinction we would likely act very selfish and cruel to the bitter end. Stark contrast to your usual idealistic shlock in other action-oriented shows. There's a lot of meaning you can take from that show if you want. Very, very cynical outlook on humanity as a whole. If I had to sum it up into a specific message I guess it would be "people are bad."

The funny thing is that I don't think the authors necessarily write this stuff with the intent of influencing people (not usually, anyways) -- it's just that when you are writing a narrative your personal predilections tend to show through whether you mean for them to or not. It's like how everybody assigns all these different meanings to Evangelion despite Hideaki Anno explicitly saying that he didn't actually intend to attach any deeper meaning or message to the show. A lot of the symbolism and stuff he supposedly threw in there just because he thought it was neat, but nothing deeper than that. Interesting how that works.
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Posted 12/9/13

Stilgar_87 wrote:

Angel Beats had a message.


What was the message?
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Posted 12/9/13
Gundam 00.. fuck it ALL THE GOSS DARN GUNDAMNS.
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Posted 12/9/13

Hairbelly wrote:


Stilgar_87 wrote:

Angel Beats had a message.


What was the message?


I see dead people.
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Posted 12/9/13
Earth Maiden Arjuna had one of the most upfront messages in an anime I've seen, sometimes to it's detriment. I wanted to like the show more, but the preaching about natural foods and living in balance with the land just feel too heavy-handed.
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Welcome to the NHK was meant to be a satire of a lot of Japan's social issues. Otakuism, suicide, pyramid schemes, etc.
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That's actually a problem I had with both NGE and SNK. The protagonists are supposedly fighting for humanity and we are only given reasons why humanity is bad. I mean, what's the point of fighting for people if they just end up being selfish and cruel? I do not think either show attempted to answer that question.
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Posted 12/9/13

Hairbelly wrote:


Stilgar_87 wrote:

Angel Beats had a message.


What was the message?


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pft those are lame. This is where it's at:



"I want to become a cheesecake."

if you want more messages than that then you need to reevaluate your life, uh-huh
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Posted 12/9/13 , edited 12/9/13
What'd be more interesting to me is 'what anime have positive messages?'

The list is actually pretty small once you get beyond vague 'power of friendship' stuff.

The strongest message of the last year, of course, was CROWDS, which was all but a diatribe against the violence of our culture (and especially the violence in Anime narratives).
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Felstalker made a good point in distinguishing between theme and message. windsaigo, I think there are lot of anime with positive themes, but the the thing about themes is that they allow expansion of interpretation. To dig out particular message is difficult, to pull out themes is not so much. I do agree that the question of which anime have positive message is a more valuable one. When the "does watching anime make you a better person" thread was going, the VAST majority of people gave straight up no's. So, for me, the question that follow is: Do people need explicit messages to take positive life movement into their personal experience, and are positive themes not penetrating enough to serve that purpose.

Agendas can be tough to put your finger on, but whether or not authors mean to, I think that most anime have some sort of agenda behind them.
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Posted 12/9/13
Any and all Ghibli films
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Ano is living on a boat made of money laughing at the fans buying Rei Ayanami dust pans
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Posted 12/9/13 , edited 12/9/13

uncletim wrote:


Ano is living on a boat made of money laughing at the fans buying Rei Ayanami dust pans


Literally the best dustpan I've ever bought.
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