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I was finally able to watch this film and it is one of the best Miyazaki films. I would rank it right up there with Totoro, Kiki, and Castle in the Sky. I was not a fan of Ponyo, Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, and Howl's Moving Castle. I thought these films were subpar and obviously no more than a simple cash grab, which was why I didn't have high hopes for The Wind Rises. I am happy to say that I was wrong, and that this movie is a must watch.

I really felt the strong anti-war message in this movie was quite touching. Although Miyazaki has displayed his anti-war stance in other movies before, I thought this was done in the best manner in terms of the story and characters. I felt his message was present while I enjoyed this great story and likable characters compared to Howls Moving Castle where I felt he was just lecturing this theme to the audience without a good story to entertain.

The interesting thing is the reaction this movie has received from Japan. It can be summed up in this article:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-the-wind-rises-trailer-miyazaki-20130815,0,314360.story#axzz2nEYOpDDB

Basically where the conservatives (Japan's version of the tea party) are basically accusing Miyazaki of being anti-Japanese and being a traitor. I can kind of see how they feel this way because this movie was very anti-war, and very critical of Japan's role indirectly. Even more interesting is here in the CR forums we had some idiot who hasn't even seen the movie actually accusing The Wind Rises of being too one sided toward Japan and pro-Japanese War Crime. Definitely should watch a movie first before having an opinion.

I strongly recommend this film. For those of you who have actually seen this film, what are your thoughts? Let's keep this thread limited to the film. If you want to go off tangent about how this film is pro- war crime or one sided toward Japan there is already another CR thread on it. Use the simple search function and go there instead.
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I can't wait till it comes out at my end. I haven't seen it yet. However, it seems interesting looking at the link and finding out how controversial this movie seems especially it being anti-war and the main character is making weapons for the war.. and since I've heard that WW2 isn't something talked too much about in Japan.... considering war atrocities etc.
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Laputa - Castle in the sky and Kiki's delivery service are my favorites, so if you say it's right up there with them, then I'm immediately sold!
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I was lucky to arrive in Tokyo the day this movie premiered and actually have a ticket to go see it.
I liked the movie, but I really need to watch it again because I did watch it on the day I arrived, which was after spending 14 hours on airplanes.
As this is a whee bit of a slow paced movie with a lot of conversation I did doze off here and there because of the jetlag.

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The movie was good but not his best. Princess Mononoke was his best IMO. But a good film if you just want a good watch. I for one don't look for deeper meanings in my anime I just enjoy watching it I will leave the deeper meanings to the hipsters and pseudo intellectuals. I give this film a 7 out of 10 good but not his best
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Thought I'd bump this since the broader US Release date is coming up soon (Feb 21 in some theaters; more general release Feb 28).

One of my local theaters is doing an early, free screening next week, but I'll be missing it due to other commitments Happily I will be able to see it at another local theater on Feb 21--where it's being offered in both the dub and sub versions. Even though I'm not much of a Miyasaki fan, I'm looking forward to it, especially as I'll be seeing it with a friend who's not so much an anime fan, but is a History buff.

What about you? Will a theater near you be showing it? Do you plan to see it? Will you have a sub option (and if so, will you be watching that or the dub?)
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wow that is soon! i wonder if i'll have to go the closest city to watch it.. being in a smaller town has it downsides haha. I'm excited to see it, if there's a sub version i will definitely prefer that over dub.

actually i'm REALLY stoked to see this, the movie trailer by itself was moving, can't imagine what the movie's gonna be like.
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So I saw the film. Interesting story, and touching tale. Was it Miyazaki's best? Not at all. It was very slow and dragged for me, yet it was a pretty good movie.

EDIT: I actually didn't want The Wind Rises to win at the Oscars. If another of Miyazaki's films should have won (especially a war movie) it should have been Grave of the Fireflies (beautiful, heartbreaking movie), not this one. I personally preferred Frozen, though it again was a flawed film, and rushed in places. In my opinion, none of the animated nominees were that great. I prefer old Miyazaki and old Disney.

Anime fans are just hating on Frozen winning because they're obsessed with anime for the most part. Ridiculous.

I am really curious about something however:

There's a movie coming out later this year called Unbroken, and it is the true story/book of Louis Zamperini; Olympic athlete, soldier and prisoner at a Japanese pow camp where he was tortured horribly. I seriously wonder if Japan will allow this movie to run in Japan at all considering the material and mention of all the things Japan denies.

Japan are you going to restrict this movie from playing like you do all the films that feature Japan in a bad light during the war?
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People dislike it for another reason: It's about the Zero, the very plane that caused so many casualties.
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It's a touche subject in the film, there's still wounds from the ww2. History is written so that certain things are overlooked while other aspects are written in detail but from only 1 perspective. i.e. battles that were won written by the victors while a losing account usually isn't found or differs greatly from the winning perspective.

I look forward to this, still haven't seen from up on poppy hill yet. I hope it lives up to his standards. I enjoyed ponyo & arrietty, yet the 1st felt like it was missing a scene or two, while the 2nd just seemed rushed pace for a ghibli film. His best were howls moving castle, spirited away & porco rosso. Love to see a spin off/sequel any day for those. Yet on the other hand, I'm just as excited to see the new stories they'll weave.

Thus despite it being his final film as director, I think it's only the beginning of new directors, whole new stories and maybe, just maybe, films that surpass the classic ghibli!!
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Beautiful film, but you have to have a lot of patience with the pacing.
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Loved it. A fitting swan song for & by Miyazaki. It has everything that makes it a ghibli film while hinting at virtually every film he has made./worked on.

I look forward to the release with the dub, though i'm perfectly happy if they leave it as sub.
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Saw it Friday. It was beautiful. One of the best films I've seen. For me the pace did not require patience. I loved it. There were certainly several themes woven in, but for me the one that felt most beautiful and most dominant was that it was a love story, where the love was for technology and design. The music, the art, the slower pace gave a real weight to it that I appreciated. One specific scene particularly captured me, but there were so many that built to that moment, and sustained it afterward.

There was one aspect of the movie that very much did not appeal to me though. I felt that the

That part did take away from my overall enjoyment of the film, but there was enough stuff there that once again came more into focus as the movie concluded, that I left the theater with the sense of having had a good experience rather than a disappointing one.

I'm interested in seeing what other folks think.
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lorreen wrote:

Saw it Friday. It was beautiful. One of the best films I've seen. For me the pace did not require patience. I loved it. There were certainly several themes woven in, but for me the one that felt most beautiful and most dominant was that it was a love story, where the love was for technology and design. The music, the art, the slower pace gave a real weight to it that I appreciated. One specific scene particularly captured me, but there were so many that built to that moment, and sustained it afterward.

There was one aspect of the movie that very much did not appeal to me though. I felt that the

That part did take away from my overall enjoyment of the film, but there was enough stuff there that once again came more into focus as the movie concluded, that I left the theater with the sense of having had a good experience rather than a disappointing one.

I'm interested in seeing what other folks think.




^I've edited that a couple times
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I saw it the other day. Amazing film. One of Miyazaki's best for damn certain and is potentially in my Top 3 Miyazaki films, honestly. And unquestionably the best Miyazaki film since Spirited Away.

That being said I do not see why there is so much controversy about this film.

It is like the controversy comes from the subject matter, rather than what is in the film itself. Like all the hubbub about this film being about the Zero. It really isn't.



Now I kinda get the people getting up in arms about the film being an anti-war film about the guy who would eventually make Japan's primary fighter plane thing, but only because I remember how touchy things like World War 2 and how it ties into Japanese nationalism can be. So I get it, but it is totally a Japanese thing.

So Jiro eventually created a plane that was used to kill untold numbers. That doesn't instantly make the guy himself evil.
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