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Posted 21 days ago

happyfunday wrote:


I can accept whatever thing you said as your opinion but not with that one i bold...no, even it is your opinion there are not carbon copy at all..some of .the character designs a bit similar because they both used same assistant animator, but characterization nothing similar at all....not single one...


OK I may have been a bit presumptuous about that statement. I was just pointing out the kind of characters that they were in relation to what he had seen with Valvrave. But you're right they are totally different except for a few traits that the characters share as archetypes e.g L-Elf's military stance/discipline/attitude towards MC = Dio's character base.
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Posted 21 days ago
I saw the end of the season 1. I can't wait for season 2. That ending after the credits was great. Though what a petty reason to start a war...
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Posted 21 days ago , edited 21 days ago
5/10. So-so show. The characters don't really have any impacts. Onward to ss2.

Hina's time loop is BS. The whole time traveling is BS also. I did the best to hold my suspension of disbelief.
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Bizon got royally screwed there in the end. Well good riddens, he was a raving lunatic, and not the good kind, the overly obsessive boyfriend kind. I thought it was pretty stupid that they decided to have it that Hina appears as a little girl sometime in the future every time she disappears in the time portal. What the hell is her origin then!? Stupid writers creating more paradoxes than they can handle.

The one thing I kind of find funny is, so they suggest that Bizon was thrown into the recent past and worked his way up to being one of the big honchos, but that would mean that 2 iterations of him existed simultaneously at the same time.


At this point with all the BS paradox that could fill a jar I think the anime is just using the "time bubble" theory...which basically goes:
Traveling through time puts the traveler into a bubble that severs his connection to the flow of time, thus allowing him to travel forward or backward in time while retaining his existence as is and when the traveler returns to the normal flow of time, he becomes a part of it, thus events that would otherwise lead to the traveler ceasing to be, even before traveling, will not affect the traveler that arrived as his connection to that self was severed.
It is another BS theory about time traveling that has been used to manipulate paradoxes. Once within the bubble you are a sentient being, with no rules on your actual existence, and once you are out, you simply enter the current timeline you are at, making you a complete parallel to everything around you. Get what I mean?, it also allows the Grandfather theory to be a thing.

As to Bizon, he is a messed up plot device, little characterization was given to him other than the VIEWER MUST HATE this guy, so lest make him the most irrational jealous filled, hatred pumping antagonist we can use in a "teen" mecha series. He could have been created better, but that would only make use feel for him ^_- eh...He was giving up some nonchalant vibes earlier in the series and they ruined it.
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Posted 21 days ago
I hope in season two that we'll see:

1. Thought out or special missions, not just being on the defense/run
2. More of Aoba working with Hina
3. More Coupling Valiancers in battle or at least on Free Pact Alliance's side
4. Romance between Hina/Aoba or Aoba/Mayuka
5. The Cygnus's crew finally accepts Aoba is from the past. (Heck everyone saw the Time Tunnel)

Maybe, Mecha Anime isn't popular or well perceived to many, but that type was the bulk of anime shows on tv, when I was child.
Late 70s- early 80s. Excluding cartoons, of course. Sci-Fi, Space, Robots, etc... Being a young boy that genre was enough.
I guess I am used to it. When I see a member type that it's just another, run of the mill, mecha anime, I think to myself that I want to see it for better or worse.
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Posted 21 days ago , edited 21 days ago

tehshrapnel wrote:

I hope in season two that we'll see:

1. Thought out or special missions, not just being on the defense/run
2. More of Aoba working with Hina
3. More Coupling Valiancers in battle or at least on Free Pact Alliance's side
4. Romance between Hina/Aoba or Aoba/Mayuka
5. The Cygnus's crew finally accepts Aoba is from the past. (Heck everyone saw the Time Tunnel)

Maybe, Mecha Anime isn't popular or well perceived to many, but that type was the bulk of anime shows on tv, when I was child.
Late 70s- early 80s. Excluding cartoons, of course. Sci-Fi, Space, Robots, etc... Being a young boy that genre was enough.
I guess I am used to it. When I see a member type that it's just another, run of the mill, mecha anime, I think to myself that I want to see it for better or worse.


In Season 2, if it gets really really bad for the good guys be prepared for a Temporal reset / Yumeria! ending. (Basically they eliminate Bizon from becoming what he becomes in the last episode, and Aoba's back in his own time. New Student gets introduced and it's Hina, then epilogue flash forward showing what the variant future is like)


-The dual outcome effect will start becoming more prominent as the show progresses. (Should be explained by both Hina and Aoba being temporal anomalies).

-Dr. Hahn is going to try and recreate the Time tunnel effect, so will try to kidnap both Aoba and Hina, this should lead to the final showdown with Bizon, and will probably cause Alfred Gallant and the rest of Hina's former squad to come to her aid.


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In Season 2, if it gets really really bad for the good guys be prepared for a Temporal reset / Yumeria! ending. (Basically they eliminate Bizon from becoming what he becomes in the last episode, and Aoba's back in his own time. New Student gets introduced and it's Hina, then epilogue flash forward showing what the variant future is like)


-The dual outcome effect will start becoming more prominent as the show progresses. (Should be explained by both Hina and Aoba being temporal anomalies).

-Dr. Hahn is going to try and recreate the Time tunnel effect, so will try to kidnap both Aoba and Hina, this should lead to the final showdown with Bizon, and will probably cause Alfred Gallant and the rest of Hina's former squad to come to her aid.




I would be interested in any of those scenarios. But that is me.

I hope we can get at least 2-3 episodes of one major air battle.

Something reminiscent of these 2 scenes from Samurai 7.






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Posted 20 days ago , edited 20 days ago
lol

Well back to Bizon and Hina....well I think he really care or love for HIna but he is blind as well and that helmet device made him go wild illogical...oh well...it all ends there....why does Sakurai san gets to do a lot crazy characters

Anyway , this was an entertaining anime but eventually, I will forget about this one as well
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Posted 19 days ago , edited 19 days ago

Series5Ranger wrote:
Actually there's a way to explain it:

Spoiilers below:





Maybe, they haven't broken anything at all. If all time travelling has happened and will happen, then there is nothing to suggest that Aoba's actions actually changed anything at all. As an example; suppose {} is a time travel event: { { } { } }. It could go on to infinite, but it can still be something that hasn't actually changed anything. It can be nested within each other over and over again, but as long as it's part of another time travel event, then it's still mutable. Aoba believes he has broken the cycle, but his perceptions aren't necessarily true, and this was already proven in the show.

Recall Aoba's frustration and confusion that when he initially met Hina she didn't believe his claims. He was totally alone, which is why he decided to just accept his situation and move on. Aoba's past was Hina's future, so obviously she couldn't understand what the hell Aoba was on about. In other words, Aoba's perceptions of an event, isn't correct.

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Posted 19 days ago , edited 19 days ago

OniFeeZ wrote:


Series5Ranger wrote:
Actually there's a way to explain it:

Spoiilers below:





Maybe, they haven't broken anything at all. If all time travelling has happened and will happen, then there is nothing to suggest that Aoba's actions actually changed anything at all. As an example; suppose {} is a time travel event: { { } { } }. It could go on to infinite, but it can still be something that hasn't actually changed anything. It can be nested within each other over and over again, but as long as it's part of another time travel event, then it's still mutable. Aoba believes he has broken the cycle, but his perceptions aren't necessarily true, and this was already proven in the show.

Recall Aoba's frustration and confusion that when he initially met Hina she didn't believe his claims. He was totally alone, which is why he decided to just accept his situation and move on. Aoba's past was Hina's future, so obviously she couldn't understand what the hell Aoba was on about. In other words, Aoba's perceptions of an event, isn't correct.



Aoba's misconception was that he thinks too literally, The 1st time he met her was the last time she met him.

Like I said no divergence (Time alteration) has occurred, both events (Hina going to the past and saving Aoba, and Aoba and Dio saving Hina from the end of the time loop, and Bizon taking over Zogillia) have already occurred, remember the 2 dual outcome events in Ep 11 (Dio and Aoba's Connection with the Prototype Link Valiancers both Failed and succeeded), then Ep.13 (Dio stops Aoba and the time loop continues) (Link Failed from Ep.11), Helps Aoba save Hina (Link in Ep.11 succeeded). Basically both events happened as time resolves itself.

The only mysteries left to be solved are the Hairpin (Personally I don't think it came through time with Aoba, because Hina never handed it to him, and it was in the cockpit of the Luxon when he popped into it) , what Hina's entry point into the timeloop was, and when, where, and Who she actually is.

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I don't think the Hairpin is actually anything special like a coded message or something, I think it's literally just a Hairpin. If I understand you correctly though, you're suggesting that the hairpin has some special significance for someone (at some point in time haha), and that I quite agree with.

I just rewatched ep 11, there's nothing in the scenes there to show that Dio stops Aoba for the time loop. All that is shown are events that have personally occured to him, so I'm not sure how you got the 'Ep13 (Dio stops Aoba) ( Link Failed from ep11)' from.

Regardless, I think we're saying the same thing; everything that Aoba believes he has changed, he hasn't, he's just further down the rabbit hole.
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Posted 19 days ago

OniFeeZ wrote:

I don't think the Hairpin is actually anything special like a coded message or something, I think it's literally just a Hairpin. If I understand you correctly though, you're suggesting that the hairpin has some special significance for someone (at some point in time haha), and that I quite agree with.

I just rewatched ep 11, there's nothing in the scenes there to show that Dio stops Aoba for the time loop. All that is shown are events that have personally occured to him, so I'm not sure how you got the 'Ep13 (Dio stops Aoba) ( Link Failed from ep11)' from.

Regardless, I think we're saying the same thing; everything that Aoba believes he has changed, he hasn't, he's just further down the rabbit hole.


yeah we are saying the same thing.


Ep. 11 is the link between Skyknight and Guardian (The link prototypes) When Aoba attempts the link at first it fails, then there's that distortion effect and it suddenly succeeds.

This variation causes both events in Ep.13 to occur. When the link failed, Dio stops Aoba from saving Hina because he doesn't understand what's going on, and causes Hina to go through the loop again.

The Link in Ep.11 succeeding, Dio helps Aoba because they shared each other's memories. It's why he also recognized the Zogillia link Valiancers when he sees them. So he knows what's going on as well and helps him. They save Hina from the End of the loop.
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