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Episode 2

Huh I noticed the title is named after a Tarot card - The Lovers.

Anyways, what got me wondering is how he was able to learn how to pilot that 'Armor' in battle already. Story feels a bit blend and characters are everywhere...
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Episode 2

Huh I noticed the title is named after a Tarot card - The Lovers.

Anyways, what got me wondering is how he was able to learn how to pilot that 'Armor' in battle already. Story feels a bit blend and characters are everywhere...


Meh, that was one of those things that were just lazy written in.

Essentially is one of those systems where it will act exactly like you do as a human. They said do not control it, just act as normal or something like that. So floaty hand grabs, and real time scanning tech...
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Well so far my general feeling for this show is that it will probably be pretty fun to watch as long as it continues to move at a fast pace and focuses primarily on action. If it gets too mired in melodrama down the line or, as weird as this might sound, slows down to focus on it's own plot, I think it's going to lose steam pretty fast. It's just that type of show. If they slow it down it's just going to expose how ridiculous it all is even more and at that point it's going to get awfully hard to stay with it.

Of course if you've already decided you don't care for it I doubt watching further will change your mind.
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Essentially is one of those systems where it will act exactly like you do as a human. They said do not control it, just act as normal or something like that. So floaty hand grabs, and real time scanning tech...

It's clearly powered by FIGHTING SPIRIT!

Anywho, there are some interesting things going on, but the fact that they've taken the greatest historical figure of the West and turned her into a patent helpless, fanservice character is too much. Dropped.
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Well so far my general feeling for this show is that it will probably be pretty fun to watch as long as it continues to move at a fast pace and focuses primarily on action. If it gets too mired in melodrama down the line or, as weird as this might sound, slows down to focus on it's own plot, I think it's going to lose steam pretty fast. It's just that type of show. If they slow it down it's just going to expose how ridiculous it all is even more and at that point it's going to get awfully hard to stay with it.

Of course if you've already decided you don't care for it I doubt watching further will change your mind.


Basically what I feel as well. This show has to keep up at a steady action based pace. It is too ridiculous to hold up any form of actual drama, so if they slow it down all of the silly will come to the front. I mean just look at the West Planet scene from this episode. If we have to actually stop and think about scenes like that, we will realize just how dumb this show is.

So keep up the action, please!


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Vaporisor wrote:
Essentially is one of those systems where it will act exactly like you do as a human. They said do not control it, just act as normal or something like that. So floaty hand grabs, and real time scanning tech...

It's clearly powered by FIGHTING SPIRIT!

Anywho, there are some interesting things going on, but the fact that they've taken the greatest historical figure of the West and turned her into a patent helpless, fanservice character is too much. Dropped.


I doth think you are overhyping Joan just a tad. She is certainly an interesting historical figure, but greatest? That is a very long stretch there, mate.
Posted 1/12/14
Hmm, now that I finished episode two; I got to say that I love da Vinci I know that I'm not adding to the discussion; but I can't really express how I feel about the series in words honestly I look forward to the next episode
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Anywho, there are some interesting things going on, but the fact that they've taken the greatest historical figure of the West and turned her into a patent helpless, fanservice character is too much. Dropped.


The half masked Yaoi styled Caesar made me facepalm bigtime....

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Well, this is definitely not the place to have a debate on that topic, but how many other 17-year-old girls have cropped up in history with credentials like hers? Hell, how many 17-year-old kids, no how many historical figures of any age/gender have credentials like hers?

Without any military training, she surpassed the greatest military tacticians of her time with her military genius, picked up an entire country and its ruler up from the depths of despair, depression and hopelessness, turned a ragtag group of mercenary soldiers into the most effective fighting force on the continent and ended countless years of British reign over France all on her own, without killing a single man herself?

There's no one who stands above her.
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Well, this is definitely not the place to have a debate on that topic, but how many other 17-year-old girls have cropped up in history with credentials like hers? Hell, how many 17-year-old kids, no how many historical figures of any age/gender have credentials like hers?

Without any military training, she surpassed the greatest military tacticians of her time with her military genius, picked up an entire country and its ruler up from the depths of despair, depression and hopelessness, turned a ragtag group of mercenary soldiers into the most effective fighting force on the continent and ended countless years of British reign over France all on her own, without killing a single man herself?

There's no one who stands above her.

Joan was a glorified cheerleader, mate.
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I forgive your ignorance. Clearly you've read little about her life and what she actually did. I've made my case using actual historical facts. Interpretation of where you want to place her in relation to other historical figures obviously is subjective; only someone ignorant of the facts could make a statement like what you just did.

I also don't know why you're going out of your way to provoke me, mate.

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Hmm..I'm gonna reserve full judgement on this series until it's finished. This episode didn't exactly clarify much, but I hope the next one will.
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I forgive your ignorance. Clearly you've read little about her life and what she actually did. I've made my case using actual historical facts. Interpretation of where you want to place her in relation to other historical figures obviously is subjective; only someone ignorant of the facts could make a statement like what you just did.

I also don't know why you're going out of your way to provoke me, mate.



She rallied the troops. She was the source of her forces' morale. That is commendable. But she didn't really fight. That gives her cred, sure. But there is something about getting your hands dirty that gives them more cred in my books. Thus people like Hannibal get the edge over her.
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well whatever Jean d'Arc really was, she seems to be a moral, guiding support in this anime lol

I like it so far, it's certainly very pretty to watch. Although I'm not a fan of big boobs lol, at least it's not the level of some other anime out there. I'll keep watching it for a while at any rate.
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Caesar is of the Round Table? Brutus? This really does have every historical figure in the same place and time, doesn't it?

I finished the second episode so that is something. I've already dropped a few other shows... I'm not really sure why I am watching Nobunaga the Fool. The Satelite animation is good as usual, I guess that is something. The voice acting is good. The music is good. The characters are... plentiful. Their motivations are... largely unknown as is the overall plot. But I will watch another one at least and as long as it keeps me watching I will watch it....
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iblessall wrote:


I forgive your ignorance. Clearly you've read little about her life and what she actually did. I've made my case using actual historical facts. Interpretation of where you want to place her in relation to other historical figures obviously is subjective; only someone ignorant of the facts could make a statement like what you just did.

I also don't know why you're going out of your way to provoke me, mate.



She rallied the troops. She was the source of her forces' morale. That is commendable. But she didn't really fight. That gives her cred, sure. But there is something about getting your hands dirty that gives them more cred in my books. Thus people like Hannibal get the edge over her.

She was given absolute military authority over the French army. She was both tactician and inspiration. She DID really fight. She set the strategy for her forces, and though she never killed an enemy soldier, she was on the front lines of the attack many times over the course of her career.

Isn't it more impressive that she didn't actually kill anyone with her own hands? Rather, she wept for the enemy soldiers that lost their lives. That's a true leader and a true warrior.

Just go read a book about what she actually, HISTORICALLY did.
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