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Posted 12/18/13 , edited 12/18/13
I've been an anime fan almost my entire life, even before I knew what it was. Starting back in the 80's as a kid with shows like DBZ, Ronin Warriors and Sailor Moon. Since then, I've seen over 1,100 animes. And even though I like going old school, I find that the best and most highly regarded animes are more recent.

Steins;Gate (2011), FMA: Brotherhood (2009), Clannad After Story (2008), Death Note (2006), Code Geass (2006), The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya (2010), Spirited Away (2001), Cowboy Bebop (1998).

It seems that the most revered animes have come out after or around the turn of millennium. Do you agree that the millennial age is the golden age of Anime? Or do you feel that titles from previous generations, such as Astro Boy, Akira, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Fist of the North Star, and other titles from the 80's, early 90's and before, are still the standard bearers for anime greatness? Or, do you think the greatest animes have yet to be seen?

What are your reasons?
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Posted 12/18/13
it's hilarious to see posts like these, and then posts by the anime hipsters who think that the golden age of anime has already long since past...

personally, I believe the anime medium is growing and becoming better as time goes on. I'm kinda surprised that as I look back, most of my favorite anime are newer anime, within the past 5 or so years, and 2013 alone has seen many new favorites added to my list.
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aidenraine wrote:

it's hilarious to see posts like these, and then posts by the anime hipsters who think that the golden age of anime has already long since past...

personally, I believe the anime medium is growing and becoming better as time goes on. I'm kinda surprised that as I look back, most of my favorite anime are newer anime, within the past 5 or so years, and 2013 alone has seen many new favorites added to my list.


I'd have to agree with you. As I look at my top ten favorite animes of all time, there's only one that came out before 2000, now. One Piece. All the rest of them are in the past 6-7 years. Black Lagoon, HxH Remake, Madoka, Black Lagoon, Code Geass, AOT, etc...

It's this season alone that made me pose this question. I like blending older animes with newer animes, and it just seems to me the newer animes blow the older ones out of the water. It's not even just a question of advanced animation techniques, but the characters are more diverse and distinctive, stories are more creative, things aren't as predictable and the overall quality of anime on average seems better. If you take a middle of the road anime from this season, and compare it to a middle of the road anime of yesteryear, it's just better on so many levels.

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Anime was alot more scarce about 20 years ago, today there is a lot being pumped out so the very good outweighs the bad.

This sort of question is not really relevant right now, the scene is still growing and there is no such thing as a golden age just yet but the only thing you can do is separate the good series from the bad

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Steins;Gate (2011), FMA: Brotherhood (2009), Clannad After Story (2008), Death Note (2006), Code Geass (2006), The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya (2010), Spirited Away (2001), Cowboy Bebop (1998).


is completely irrelevant. The year spread is way too big for what the anime industry is as a whole.
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why are we talking about this ... doe it mean the era before is less creative?

Its all about the writing of the authors.

Now if you narrow it down to original anime .
Posted 12/18/13
With all the pandering, no, it is dying and nothing can ever save it.
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Posted 12/18/13

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Anime was alot more scarce about 20 years ago, today there is a lot being pumped out so the very good outweighs the bad.

This sort of question is not really relevant right now, the scene is still growing and there is no such thing as a golden age just yet but the only thing you can do is separate the good series from the bad

OP example of this


Steins;Gate (2011), FMA: Brotherhood (2009), Clannad After Story (2008), Death Note (2006), Code Geass (2006), The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya (2010), Spirited Away (2001), Cowboy Bebop (1998).


is completely irrelevant. The year spread is way too big for what the anime industry is as a whole.


Completely disagree. Anime has been around for almost 100 years, and has been mass distributed as an entertainment form since the 1960s. That's more than enough time to have eras. That's like saying there's no era's in the NBA, or Pro Wrestling, or television as a whole. Jordan Era is different from Lebron Era, Hulkamania is different from the Attitude Era and Gumshoe is in a different era from Breaking Bad.

I'd also have to disagree with the idea that anime was too scarce 20 years ago. It was 1993. There were animes by the boatload back then. And the question posed here is, do the greats of this era out perform the greats of the previous eras, and is the industry more creative as a whole (including the below the radar stuff.) So volume really doesn't even matter.

Nevertheless, with 60 years of mass production and tens of thousands of titles, anime has more than enough volume and history to have distinctive eras.
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Well it has been, unless you're clueless about the industry then stop trying to debate something you don't see clearly. From 1998(The "Golden Age") the furthest your example dates back to. The average release of new anime series averages around 50-60 titles every year up until today in 2013.

1999 - 1994 the average release was about 15 - 20.

85% of the years from 1907 - 1993 had 0 releases, and there were a few single releases here and there so don't try and say dates and era's when you don't know what you're talking about..

You're trying to compare the age 1998 - 2013 ( Over 1200 releases + OVAs, Movies) to an age where it wasn't as frequent as it is now (1950 - 1993 probably had not even a quarter of releases as the age you're comparing it to).

"There were animes by the boatload back then"

I only had to read to know you probably shouldn't of made this thread.

There is no golden age, we won't know what the Golden Age is for another hundred years and then let those people decide.
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Posted 12/18/13

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With all the pandering, no, it is dying and nothing can ever save it.


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Anime is dying? Lmao
Unfortunately, I haven't lived long enough to even debate if this is the greatest era for anime, all i know is most of my favorite series come from 2006 and up excluding HxH and One Piece.

*Cough* KyoAni is overrated *Cough* like hell *Cough*
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Posted 12/18/13
people who like berserk anime are just dumb.

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Posted 12/18/13
I always feel like it's growing up some.

for a long long time anime was 8, then for a decade or so it was 13. Now it's 19.
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Posted 12/18/13 , edited 12/18/13

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supasoggyrolle


Well it has been, unless you're clueless about the industry then stop trying to debate something you don't see clearly. From 1998(The "Golden Age") the furthest your example dates back to. The average release of new anime series averages around 50-60 titles every year up until today in 2013.

1999 - 1994 the average release was about 15 - 20.

85% of the years from 1907 - 1993 had 0 releases, and there were a few single releases here and there so don't try and say dates and era's when you don't know what you're talking about..

You're trying to compare the age 1998 - 2013 ( Over 1200 releases + OVAs, Movies) to an age where it wasn't as frequent as it is now (1950 - 1993 probably had not even a quarter of releases as the age you're comparing it to).

"There were animes by the boatload back then"

I only had to read to know you probably shouldn't of made this thread.

There is no golden age, we won't know what the Golden Age is for another hundred years and then let those people decide.


I hate it when people talk down and are dead wrong. The average release of anime was 15-20 in the early 90s? While it's 50-60 up until 2013 for recently? Really?

1993: 79 animes were released.
1994: 90 animes were released.
1995: 80 animes were released.
1996: 105 animes were released.
1997: 105 animes were released.
1998: 103 animes were released.
1999: 114 animes were released.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1990s_anime

You might want to go back to the drawing board (aka your backside) with that 15-20 on average, bro.

As I said, there's plenty of anime history to discuss eras. If you don't feel so, you don't have to discuss it. Trust me, not discussing it at all is much better than pretending to be a know-it-all, and pulling numbers out of your backside to try and prove it.

Oh, and PS: It's more like 200 nowadays, not 50-60 (50-60 animes were coming out every year in the 80s.). Is there more anime now? Of course there is. There's more studios, more money to be made. But there's BOATLOADS of anime before the current generation. More than enough to constitute an era.
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Ok, so I may have been abit low on the 15-20 and should of said around 20-25. Your statistics included OVA's and Movies, I was talking about series only which I mentioned and said in ANOTHER part of my post. Not to mention, a few would of had no licenses outside of Japan.

The Golden Age discussion is just irrelevant now.

Not enough to constitute an era COMPARABLE to the one you're suggesting, but yes one to constitute and era for THOSE times.

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Posted 12/18/13
I know what I like, and I don't care when it came out, as long as it is good. The medium is my favorite that I've found, and one I'd like to contribute to someday.

As GoldTStar said, I haven't been around long enough (in life or in the fandom) to say whether or not we are living in a golden age. All I know is that, like my top 25 on iTunes, songs that used to be at the top eventually fall down as newer things take their place. Just seems to be the natural order of things to me.
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