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I have mixed feelings on this subject. I think that on the whole, the number of excellent shows is probably about the same as previous decades. It's just that the amount of disposable shovel-titles has gone up dramatically.

Twice as many series are aired today as were around 98-00 era. Which is like 3-4x as many as during the 80s. You look at the airing charts for say, the Summer season during the early to mid 90s and you might get 4-6 series TOTAL airing. Now even Summer has close to two dozen shows.

I do think we're in a good position as anime fans atm, though. As controversial as they are, Kyoto Animation's rise as a quality powerhouse in the middle of the last decade, and the more recent rise of PA Works; have really set a new trend of smaller studios being able to rise up via quality animation and love for the medium. Rather than just a dozen studios at Sunrise, AIC, etc. churning out the next low quality derivative crap.

KyoAni is also striking out into new ground by being their own content publisher, which I hope catches on with other smaller studios. Owning the IPs and merchandising rights etc. really opens up the ability to earn a lot more revenue, or need a lot less sales to break even on a title you may want to make just because it interests the studio, etc.
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With the release of new, better technology, I think we are almost there, but not quite yet.

Let's see in a decade or so, aye?
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Can't say if this is the golden age of anime but 1 thing I will admit... there are loads of good animes in recent years... definitely a good time to be an anime watcher.
Posted 12/20/13

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Hmmm...that depends.

If the market wasn't growing, it most certainly would! But it's not stagnant. Anime is reaching larger and larger audiences, and the availability has only improved it. 5 years ago my younger cousins, ages 6-14, could not enjoy titles such as Trigun, The Slayers, Soul Eater, and Angel Beats. Unlike I, who lived through that Adult-Swim age of anime. My cousins don't get to see no Kenshin, none of that Yu Yu Hakusho, ending with Inuyasha at 10 and Cowboy Bebop at 11. Every Saturday you got FLCL, Eureka 7, Paranoia Agent, and Samurai Champloo.

WIth Netflix and Hulu, they've got access to tons of shows, some not proper for them, some more proper than any other children or adult programming. I can't actually name a live-action show that doesn't insult or ignore children. Either they're talked down to, or loloshit'nsexjokeslol.

When I grew up, my parents tried their best to stop me from watching The Simpsons.

The worst Saturday Night of my life, the Final Episode of Eureka 7 didn't air, instead Adult Swim gave us a 3 hour flash-animation movie about a hooker on a quest, the entire thing insulted Asian culture as a whole, using stereotypes, accents, cliches, and racist remarks abound and WHY DIDN'T THEY GIVE ME THE FINAL EPISODE OF EUREKA 7? DO YOU KNOW HOW HYPED I WAS FOR THAT FINAL EPISODE? THE PROGRAMMING SAID IT WAS THE FINALE EPISODE, NOT THAT MOVIE...WHY....WHY? I SPEND 52 WEEKS ON EUREKA 7. MY BROTHER AND SISTER AND I SPEND A YEAR FOR THAT PAYOFF, THAT'S ALL WE WANTED.

Nowadays we get nothing but Family Guy and American Dad. Decent enough, but it's not the same as watching Anime every night.

Where was I going with this? Just the memory of that night makes me angry. I'm really glad I'm able to watch anime without having networks give me that kind of bull.
IF CR ever makes me wait an extra week to watch Simucast, AND watch a racist movie making fun of me for doing so, I will grab my pitchfork. ESPECIALLY if it was on the most cliffhanger of episodes.

but they don't, and it makes me very happy. I spent half an hour on this post because I felt like watching an episode of Fist of the North Star while typing it. Anime is no more saturated than movies and books, which is HELL YEAH IT'S SATURATED, but a lot of the fluff falls away a year later. I can't name the number of anime I've forgotten, they're just too boring, generic, or cliche for me to care. But the good ones I can never get enough of, and will never stop discovering.


I see, well, I didn't know much about the anime industry or care to know until I read this thread,good stuff. I'd be happy if they stop making generic anime and are forced to push creativity and innovation. Come to the dark side anime xD
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Yes, absolutely! Sadly, a lot of the most creative stuff (in my opinion of course, who else's opinion could I have?) like Shinsekai Yori and Rozen Maiden gets poor sales but somehow, they do manage to make some very creative stuff. Other creative stuff like Madoka, Monogatari and Attack on Titan does sell well too, so that's good.

I really believe that the last few years have been the most creative and best ever for anime. Keep it comin'!
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*looks up and sees discussion of Tekkaman Blade*

Ooo. Should I bring up the original Tekkaman from the '70s? (That is normally the content of my avatar, but Andro is on holiday until January 1, I suspect.)

Many people, myself included, mention the '80s and '90s as a peak period, but there is something special (and insane) about '70s anime.
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If I may ask, who exactly is this "We"?

get back to me cuz i dont understand
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it's funny because you've listed all of my favourite animes except clannad and cowboy bebop.

I think the golden era is yet to come; there's definitely more room to be more creative and much more powerful techniques for storytelling; we haven't seen nothing yet...

in 2013, the standout title for me is flowers of evil. hunter x hunter is really impressive as well.


Posted 12/20/13

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*looks up and sees discussion of Tekkaman Blade*

Ooo. Should I bring up the original Tekkaman from the '70s? (That is normally the content of my avatar, but Andro is on holiday until January 1, I suspect.)

Many people, myself included, mention the '80s and '90s as a peak period, but there is something special (and insane) about '70s anime.


Oooh i'm interested. What are good 70's Anime Titles?
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Posted 12/20/13
Eh for me the greatest "era" of anime was from the mid 90's to about 2007
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I have mixed feelings on this subject. I think that on the whole, the number of excellent shows is probably about the same as previous decades. It's just that the amount of disposable shovel-titles has gone up dramatically.

Twice as many series are aired today as were around 98-00 era. Which is like 3-4x as many as during the 80s. You look at the airing charts for say, the Summer season during the early to mid 90s and you might get 4-6 series TOTAL airing. Now even Summer has close to two dozen shows.

I do think we're in a good position as anime fans atm, though. As controversial as they are, Kyoto Animation's rise as a quality powerhouse in the middle of the last decade, and the more recent rise of PA Works; have really set a new trend of smaller studios being able to rise up via quality animation and love for the medium. Rather than just a dozen studios at Sunrise, AIC, etc. churning out the next low quality derivative crap.

KyoAni is also striking out into new ground by being their own content publisher, which I hope catches on with other smaller studios. Owning the IPs and merchandising rights etc. really opens up the ability to earn a lot more revenue, or need a lot less sales to break even on a title you may want to make just because it interests the studio, etc.


Now I'm not too well versed in how publishing works.

But I do know it takes quite a massive ton of money, something KyoAni can do now, but couldn't a few years ago. You don't publish your own content without the money to do such, and smaller studios can't do this specifically because they are small studios.

Kyoani is no longer small.
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I would add that thinking a show is dumb is different from saying people who like said show are dumb. Most people enjoy watching stupid stuff once in a while, depending on your mood right?
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Oooh i'm interested. What are good 70's Anime Titles?


Well, you have the original Classic "Astro boy which is actually a 50's/60's origin. Tough to be more famous than that. Here are some other ones that are well known from the time that I can remember. (I did cheat and google a list since I cannot remember the original releases, especially since many were delayed getting here). 70s were really alot of super robot and mecha shows.

Galaxy Express 999
Mobile Suit gundam
Grendizer
Space Battleship Yamoto

Ooh, and Wikipedia, you never fail me. This one has a nice list of key animes for the 70s!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_anime
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Hmm... Something else I just thought of that shows a change in the times is the increase of international releases of major anime productions in theatres. Cineplex really leading the way for this. Madoka Magica movie just a couple weeks ago here for one. We can add to this as well with both Akira and Ghost in the Shell being re-aired by them as part of the Cineplex 2014 film festival. Coming up here in January, they are showing Evangelion 3.0
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It seems to me that something most people can agree on is the massive benefit of the relatively high accessibility of anime these days. I suppose opinions on what years were better and which eras were the best are just that, opinions, but at the end of the day I think that probably the one undeniable and defining characteristic of the current era of anime (and honestly, just TV in general) is the unprecedented accessibility that's come about as a result of the internet and services like CR. It really is kind of crazy when you think about it and compare it to years past. And I do think that is a very, very good thing.

It's not just anime that's benefiting from it either -- if I told you 10 years ago that a series produced by an internet-based broadcast service (in this case, Netflix) would beat network television at the Emmys would you have believed me or burst out laughing? Point is, on demand media has in almost every case been a very positive thing for the mediums that embrace it.
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