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Posted 12/24/13 , edited 12/25/13
A while back my co-worker talked about how she slapped her son's hands bloody for stealing. I was kind of appalled, but other women in the office came into the conversation and shared their experience on beating their children to the same extent for bad behavior. I'm not too sure if it's bias on my part, that I'm a child too, but I think it's totally wrong. In the US, child abuse laws doesn't allow any form of discipline that would leave visible marks on a child. So what those people did was illegal. But just from a moral stand point, should the limit on child abuse laws be extended to allow parents to give harsher discipline? (ie. allowed to leave marks, not bleeding injuries). Is this important in giving more authority to parents who can't control their child?

Note: Okay okay, people seem to be misinterpreting this topic. it is not about whether child abuse is wrong or right. If you think it's wrong, then you believe that the laws should be stricter. In fact, law should not allow any form of hitting by a parent towards a child. If you believe it's okay, then the extent? Simply saying "beating is right" doesn't answer the topic question because it already assumes that you accept beating your children.
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Hell, I'd probably slap a stranger's kid's hand for stealing. Give me a break.
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carsarelittle wrote:

Hell, I'd probably slap a stranger's kid's hand for stealing. Give me a break.


Oh wow.
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Posted 12/24/13 , edited 12/24/13
(This is my opinion as someone from an abusive family and background)

The child abuse laws seem alright as they are now, but will likely need to change as society changes. And in cases where the reaction to a small act is taken to an extreme, it is not the law that is at fault, but instead the protective services being hasty and not understanding the situation whatsoever.
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physical harm isn't a punishment, it's an expression of hate and anger.
you shouldn't have to harm someone in any way to teach them a lesson. you should be able to express the immorality of one's actions through understanding and helping them better themselves to make them a greater person for the future.
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physical harm isn't a punishment, it's an expression of hate and anger.


We slap our puppy if/when he shits on the floor, and drag him outside. The result? Now, he only shits outside. Clearly we're full of hate and anger!
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carsarelittle wrote:


shadorai wrote:

physical harm isn't a punishment, it's an expression of hate and anger.


We slap our puppy if/when he shits on the floor, and drag him outside. The result? Now, he only shits outside. Clearly we're full of hate and anger!


well, technically, in that situation, you're angry at the puppy for defecating on the floor...

but i'm being general here. yeah, if you're wrestling with your brother for fun, you're not expressing anger or hate.
but usually when one causes physical harm to another it's because you're mad at them, something they did, etc.
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shadorai wrote:

physical harm isn't a punishment, it's an expression of hate and anger.


We slap our puppy if/when he shits on the floor, and drag him outside. The result? Now, he only shits outside. Clearly we're full of hate and anger!
We slap our children for shitting on the floor. The results? They stop shitting.

Everyone let this troll post die
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carsarelittle wrote:


shadorai wrote:

physical harm isn't a punishment, it's an expression of hate and anger.


We slap our puppy if/when he shits on the floor, and drag him outside. The result? Now, he only shits outside. Clearly we're full of hate and anger!
We slap our children for shitting on the floor. The results? They stop shitting.

Everyone let this troll post die


And this explains why abused children evolved to not have assholes. Your post if totally on-par with reality, and your logic is flawless. I'm so sorry I trolled.
Posted 12/24/13
Yeeeaaahhh, you do not have to beat a child to make it understand that stealing is illegal. In fact, you do not even have to yell at a child to make it understand that stealing is illegal. Your disapproval is enough. Because your child looks up to you. Do not give them long and confusing explanations or try to rationalize with them, simply disapprove. If that is a very difficult concept to comprehend then we are all probably better off if you do not spawn more copies of yourself. This goes to anyone it may concern.
Posted 12/24/13
There is nothing wrong with beating a child. I used to get beat so bad by my parents and teachers back in the day. I used to get hit with switches, belts, rulers, fly swatters etc. I turned out perfectly fine id say better than those whos parents didnt hit them. When i did something wrong i got beat then id never do it again. Why? Cuz mommy gunna cut my ass if i do bad. Just talking does not work. I know because i was a kid once too.

About 95% of the kids that arent punished by there parents with a good spanking usually turn out to be spoiled and rude. And most of those same kids are the ones doing pills, x, RC's straight junkies partying all the time, especially nowadays

I just cant believe people are so disgusted by punishing your child.

Also not only did i get my ass beat i didnt have tv, computer, video game, anime and i couldnt go out side. Cell phone? shit i didnt get one till i was 18. Alot of you kids have it so good you have no idea.
Posted 12/24/13

dankuuwut wrote:

Yeeeaaahhh, you do not have to beat a child to make it understand that stealing is illegal. In fact, you do not even have to yell at a child to make it understand that stealing is illegal. Your disapproval is enough. Because your child looks up to you. Do not give them long and confusing explanations or try to rationalize with them, simply disapprove. If that is a very difficult concept to comprehend then we are all probably better off if you do not spawn more copies of yourself. This goes to anyone it may concern.


Lol this isnt a drama. This is real life. No kid is going to be like "oh i can tell that dad is dissapointed so im not going to do it again." What the kid is really thinking is "how do i do steal with out getting caught next time?"

I stole from my step dad when i was like 7. got my ass beat. Never did it again.
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Another touchy subject with neverending debating.
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There is nothing wrong with beating a child. I used to get beat so bad by my parents and teachers back in the day. I used to get hit with switches, belts, rulers, fly swatters etc. I turned out perfectly fine id say better than those whos parents didnt hit them. When i did something wrong i got beat then id never do it again. Why? Cuz mommy gunna cut my ass if i do bad. Just talking does not work. I know because i was a kid once too.

About 95% of the kids that arent punished by there parents with a good spanking usually turn out to be spoiled and rude. And most of those same kids are the ones doing pills, x, RC's straight junkies partying all the time, especially nowadays

I just cant believe people are so disgusted by punishing your child.

Also not only did i get my ass beat i didnt have tv, computer, video game, anime and i couldnt go out side. Cell phone? shit i didnt get one till i was 18. Alot of you kids have it so good you have no idea.


I agree with this guy.

I feel like the next generation of kids that are coming up are gonna be a bunch of self-entitled assholes who don't understand the consequences of their actions.
Posted 12/24/13

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DuppyConqueror wrote:

There is nothing wrong with beating a child. I used to get beat so bad by my parents and teachers back in the day. I used to get hit with switches, belts, rulers, fly swatters etc. I turned out perfectly fine id say better than those whos parents didnt hit them. When i did something wrong i got beat then id never do it again. Why? Cuz mommy gunna cut my ass if i do bad. Just talking does not work. I know because i was a kid once too.

About 95% of the kids that arent punished by there parents with a good spanking usually turn out to be spoiled and rude. And most of those same kids are the ones doing pills, x, RC's straight junkies partying all the time, especially nowadays

I just cant believe people are so disgusted by punishing your child.

Also not only did i get my ass beat i didnt have tv, computer, video game, anime and i couldnt go out side. Cell phone? shit i didnt get one till i was 18. Alot of you kids have it so good you have no idea.


I agree with this guy.

I feel like the next generation of kids that are coming up are gonna be a bunch of self-entitled assholes who don't understand the consequences of their actions.


Thank you exactly my point.
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