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Is our society (or any society) designed for religion?
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Posted 1/2/14
Every society on Earth has religion, actually if you take the word "society" to mean the society of mankind overall (we just happen to have many very similar that are also very different) the common theme seems to be that religion will always permeate our lives, religious or not.

People who follow a religion honestly and truly believe that it reflects the truth of the reality of our universe. Suppose there is in fact no god or gods whatsoever, the universe is just a product of purely natural process that occur completely naturally, unguided and uninfluenced by anything other than its own inhabitants. Religion would still exist as it currently exists now with millions of people following one of many falsehoods that define each religion.

But people are happy with their faith, it gives them hope, and the powers that be that perpetuate by whatever means the spread of their religion will never relinquish that role because so many people gladly buy into it and hence ensures the survival of religion as a whole. None of that invalidates the possibility they (religions) are all each a fabrication that enjoys membership by those who are unable and unwilling to validate the fallibility of the supernatural.
Posted 1/2/14
Depends on the society, which many are designed with religious influences in mind, but are always subject to other influences. Multicultural societies, such as what is found in the United States, are everything and also nothing rolled into one. However, the political conflicts between all perspectives makes for a sort of incomplete and dysfunctional society. The only resolution for preventing/regulating political unrest being to enforce laws against inequality no matter the affiliation people hold.

It appears as if all societies are based from religious design, where every person has some "sacred" duty to fulfill.
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Very good points, and yes I can agree by adding every modern society has had it's beginnings during times when the majority was much less educated and ruling classes had ties to some form of religious sect (church = government). So is it that all societies are eventually going to move away from associating with that past? Who knows.

The point I was more getting at was religion as an inherent function of the human condition when forming societies. In America the majority of people are one of the major religions and I presume most of them wonder why non-believers just don't follow. It makes it seem like the point isn't really whether there is a god or not, it's that those of us who choose to conform to this institution (called religion) are happy doing so and its accepted as the norm. Us non-theists are the outcasts even though it is possibly only us who have a relatively firm grasp on the reality of the universe. But how is that even a good thing if you're still feared an unaccepted in a sea of believers?
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I think it is natural for men to search for the solution to the question of ultimate meaning and will try to make sense of it and in the process creates a system of belief, etc., the end product of which could be a religion. It's penultimately a personal thing but Man is a social being. I think everyone follows a system of belief say atheists which is non-belief of deities.
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Posted 1/3/14

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But people are happy with their faith, it gives them hope.


Indeed. It's just such a shame that it makes things shitty for everyone else.
Religion might have been a necessary evil in the past, but not anymore. Religion is no longer needed in order to give us answers in terms of our place in the universe, how it works, how the world works, etc. We simply don't need it anymore.

Now, it is nothing more than a burden on society as a whole.
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I don't think that society was designed for religion, I think religion was designed for society. It can primarily be seen as a way to control the masses of people who are gullible enough to hold stock in it, mostly for political gain or for the fulfillment of a personal agenda. While I myself am atheist, I don't see it as a religion. I believe in things that have evidence, no Gods have any evidence, so I don't believe in them, that's not a religion, that's logic.
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I believe the society of mankind is designed to seek truths, and religion is just a red herring.
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I just wish people could just be good. They shouldn't be good just because they want to get into their heaven.

Religion is now pretty much monetary gain, playing the blame game, or twisting things for personal gain for many which is completely opposite of what religion is supposed to be, many reasons why I don't follow this old world crap.
Posted 1/3/14
Don't call it religion or politics, call it agreements. When a group of people decide to live together they come to agreement. And these agreements most certainly did not come before the epiphany "Yo, guys, wouldn't we increase our chance of survival if lived together and helped each other? You know, if you get sick I help you, and if I get sick you help me, that sort of thing?" But sure, fine, why not, why wouldn't these agreements exist long before we came up with the things we needed to be in agreement about, that makes sense.
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Posted 1/4/14

spinningtoehold0 wrote:

I believe the society of mankind is designed to seek truths, and religion is just a red herring.


well said.
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Society is held together by superstitions. Religion is one of the "glue" that adhere people from several different social classes together. Customs and culture are two others.

Primitive societies require religion because at that point in time, general people were smart enough to learn language and/or verbal communication, but not smart enough to think for themselves; they needed order, rules and something to believe in to live their life satisfactorily. Can you imagine? This person was nominated to be leader, the general population will think, "Why can't I be the leader? Why does it have to be that person?", so religious groups needed to make up a reason like, "This leader is chosen by a deity, he/she is special" and everyone else is just trash at the whim of this supposed holy creator.


Modern societies no longer require religion; but are STILL sickly dependent upon community rules and cultural customs. This is why certain people get so offended if you break their custom (even if you are clearly a foreigner). People in modern society still need to cling on to custom because it defines their identity, gives them an identity cardholder in life.



In future societies, I hope individuality will take reign, but unfortunately I won't live long enough to be a part of it.
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I don't think that society was designed for religion, I think religion was designed for society. It can primarily be seen as a way to control the masses of people who are gullible enough to hold stock in it, mostly for political gain or for the fulfillment of a personal agenda. While I myself am atheist, I don't see it as a religion. I believe in things that have evidence, no Gods have any evidence, so I don't believe in them, that's not a religion, that's logic.


that is true. I hope some day society will weed out this unneeded parasite that corrupts all, known as religion.
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no. religion used to be a tool used to explain what we did not understand. now that we have the answers that we previously did not, religion is doing nothing more than keeping us from progress. i still can't get married in most states because people use their religion as an excuse to pass oppressive laws that force their beliefs on others.
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Posted 2/11/14 , edited 2/12/14
If you ever read Aristotle's politics, he defines the political unit as just this, a group of people who believe in some common "good." Because of that, I like to think of religion as both a set of beliefs adhered to by people and a political body comprised of said people. When you think about it like that, it makes sense that religions aren't really going away. If it were just a benign set of beliefs people could take or leave, I doubt that many people would have trouble abandoning their beliefs based on compelling evidence. But a religious community that strengthens and reinforces beliefs... I'm not sure it's easy to just abandon beliefs that come with a community if you have to toss away the community.

So in a way society is pretty much designed for religion. Maybe not religion specifically, but anything with a set of morals people will want to adhere to and congregate together for. As mentioned by another, this is societies' glue.
Posted 2/12/14 , edited 2/12/14

kitoka wrote:

I think it is natural for men to search for the solution to the question of ultimate meaning and will try to make sense of it and in the process creates a system of belief, etc., the end product of which could be a religion. It's penultimately a personal thing but Man is a social being. I think everyone follows a system of belief say atheists which is non-belief of deities.


It's only natural for men to search for solutions because they have the time and and money. Our lives are richer now so we have the time to pursue our own answers. As a result of taking what some like and leaving the other, religion itself spread. People will copy what they like and respect, good or bad. Everyone might follow a system of believe but there are really no one truths. Is society designed for religion? No. Society is designed for advancement. The western world has many countries that put emphasis on hard work and that's the common theme that was used to set them apart.
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