Genshiken x Big Bang Theory
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Genshiken is a manga series by Shimoku Kio about a college club for otaku (extremely obsessed fans of various media) and the lifestyle its members pursue. The title is a shortening of the club's official name, Gendai Shikaku Bunka Kenkyūkai, or "The Society for the Study of Modern Visual Culture". The series has also been adapted into an anime directed by Tsutomu Mizushima. The manga originally ran in Kodansha's monthly manga anthology Afternoon from April 2002 to May 2006, and has been reprinted in nine bound volumes. The ninth and final volume was released in Japan in December 2006. (Taken from Wikipedia)

The Big Bang Theory is an American sitcom created by Chuck Lorre and Bill Prady, both of whom serve as executive producers on the show along with Steven Molaro. All three also serve as head writers. It premiered on CBS on September 24, 2007. The seventh season premiered on September 26, 2013.

The show is centered on five characters living in Pasadena, California: roommates Leonard Hofstadter and Sheldon Cooper; Penny, a waitress and aspiring actress who lives across the hall; and Leonard and Sheldon's equally geeky and socially awkward friends and co-workers, mechanical engineer Howard Wolowitz and astrophysicist Raj Koothrappali. The geekiness and intellect of the four guys is contrasted for comic effect with Penny's social skills and common sense.
(also taken from Wikipedia)

Now I'm not going to say the two shows are exactly alike, but I can't help but get the feeling the base plot and premise for The Big Bang Theory makes it like an American version of Genshiken. There is a definite Saki/Penny connection there. Anyone else have thoughts on this? Please be civil
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Genshiken is realistic and relatable.
BBT is idealistic and stereotypical.
Genshiken is entertaining.
BBT needs its laugh track.
Genshiken is good.
Big Bang Theory is sh*t.
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People actually watch big bang? lol
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karishin32 wrote:

People actually watch big bang? lol


Ok this is honestly a stupid post. Big Bang Theory is the most watched comedy series in America right now.

You can hate on the series all you want(even I dislike it now and then), but at least use things that a bare minimum of research wouldn't destroy.
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YuSooKey wrote:

Genshiken is realistic and relatable.
BBT is idealistic and stereotypical.
Genshiken is entertaining.
BBT needs its laugh track.
Genshiken is good.
Big Bang Theory is sh*t.


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Yeah, my parents watch Big Bang Theory, and like to assume me and my siblings are like the characters on that show.

And I dislike Big Bang Theory, as it spends more time insulting or making fun of the central characters, rather than exploring or developing them.
The series definitely have similarities, but Genshiken explored the very culture and hobbies it's characters were absorbed in.

Remember the episode in which Saki and...O-no? Um..It's been a while since the show, I can say their names but not spell them.

ANYHOW. the plot of an episode during Season 1 of Genshiken revolved around the two female club members.
One of them was going to build a model, while the other didn't understand why she would do something so stupid as buy such a silly toy, let ALONE one that you had to build yourself.

The episode went by with Girl 1 building her model with the rest of the club, and Girl 2 attempting to get her to act a little less nerdy.
The episode montaged/showcased the 2-3 weeks they Built that model, and I'm talking BUILD the Model, they went so far as to paint it.

Once it was complete, Girl 2 was slightly impressed. She asked to see the model Gundam Girl 1 built. While handling it, she accidently broke it. She was sad to have done that to her friend, but offered to buy Girl 1 a new one.

Over which the entire club once again told her, IT'S NOT THAT DAMN SIMPLE.
She didn't just BUY that model you just broke, she spend 3 weeks making that.

All that time and effort she put into creating that Model, gone in an instant.

Girl 2 actually watched, in the background perhaps, but physically watched Girl 1 go through all that hard work, and when she thought about it felt like, really really really really bad for what she did then.

Ergo, the episode explained something about Otaku fandom WHILE featuring an Aesop about hard work, appreciation, and understanding how other people feel.

I do not see that in Big Bang Theory. Just explaining that Genshiken episode puts tears in my eyes. Nothing, and I say NOTHING brings tears to my eyes faster than someones hard work and effort being ruined, mocked, ridiculed, or taken light of.

I had to take another moment after typing that, that's how heavy I believe such a subject to be, and Genshiken delivers EXACTLY THAT on an episode by episode biases. Sometimes people mess up, it happens. The show didn't objectify Girl 2 for what she did, but it forced her to understand what other people feel about her actions, and hell yeah she was sorry after that.

I would much much much rather watch Community, which is a hilarious show that does not insult it's viewers AND has a far far less racist casting, and um. Dani Pudi, Alison Brie, Donald Glover, Joel Mchale...... casting genius there.

Go talk about Community and Genshiken some more, stahp wit dah Big Bang Theory
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I searched for this on the site, and am coming up with "Genshiken Second Season" is there a first? Or is it just not on Crunchyroll?
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I searched for this on the site, and am coming up with "Genshiken Second Season" is there a first? Or is it just not on Crunchyroll?


Yes, their is. Genshiken Second Season is actually the 3rd season. It's named after the Manga, which was previously adapted in two parts known as Genshiken and Genshiken 2.

Genshiken, Genshiken 2, and Genshiken Second Season in that order. All of them are also chronologically in order here, with Genshiken taking place in in our initial heroes during their first year of College.

Genshiken Second Season takes place right after ALL initial Genshiken members have graduated, and the club consists entirely of a different generation of club members. Most hilariously, the initial all-male club, who magically got a female member mid season 1, had transformed into an all female club by this season(Well....it also has a trap/crossdresser). but the show's initial premise and theme of understanding people instead of judging them like a douchebag does not change, and is just as good.

But the original cast never leaves, and you often see them despite all them graduating. This means that no, you can not skip the initial seasons. The characters never leave, you just see new characters getting to meet and know them. They're in College here, not High School! The show WILL expect you to know these characters.

Season 1 is available on Youtube in both English and Japanese, both versions are a good watch so take your pick. about 14 episodes
Season 2/Genshiken 2 will be harder to find, but does come in English if you would prefer following the English track here.
Sesaon 3/Genshiken Second Season is far more recent, and has not been Dub'd as far as I know. Unfortunately for everybody involved, Second Season was animated by a different studio. Good news is the animation itself is quite superior, even tho the core of the show has nothing to do with it's animation, relying more on writing. HOWEVER, the entire Japanese voice cast was recast in this one, different studios and all that. So......be fearful, if you think the English Dub is bad, and you will at first, just think "Would I rather the voices change, or deal with English?
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I watch bbt, granted I usually use it for background noise but still, occasionally I actually watch it. . . sometimes. . . but i don't see many similarities. Genshiken is about college students in the same club, bbt is about post-grads, living life and doing their jobs at the university; sure they both revolve around life at a Uni but thats about all they have in common and even thats a stretch since bbt spends probably less than 10% of their overall airtime actually at the University.
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BBT is entertaining at times but like other shows of it's type tends to go over the top in the end where the stories become too outlandish and silly to be able to relate to. The same thing happened to other hugely popular comedy series in America like Friends and Scrubs. I still enjoy watching them but don't feel the same relation as i do to something like Genshiken which is hugely similar to my experience of being in University and the friends i had there. It also feels easier to relate to as far as being a geek and isn't about over the top stereotypes (Okay the Americans can be a bit of a stereotype XD).

On the American characters i like Suzy she reminds me a bit of a girl i knew once i met in Japan as a friend of a friend type thing. She kinda annoyed me at first but in the end i really liked her XD. That character represents a lot of western anime fans i think in that she doesn't speak the language well and doesn't fully understand the culture and protocols but she really loves anime and Japan and wants to be a part of it which she does via anime quotes and skits.
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