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Anyways, good deeds are usually hard to do. I try to keep myself and my family in good spirits because we all get depressed occasionally. Does that count?
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@supasoggyrolle: and judging is also not good in God's eyes. Here you are judging a man (saying "probably wasn't your intent" doesn't cut it because you thought it was his intent). Everybody is different, some like to keep things secret and some others do not. There's nothing wrong with it as long as your deeds are good. Next time just keep your opinions in secret, it will do more good.

This could serve as MOTIVATION instead of looking at it with bad eyes.



See, this is what kills me about people these days. If you say ANYTHING that they might not like about their actions, you're "judging them". That is taken so far out of context it's ridiculous. When the Jews were told "Judge not, lest ye be judged", he wasn't saying: "Don't say anything about someone's actions, don't confront them or call them out, or even speak on it." If that were the case, any time any of his disciples called out anyone on sin and told them they should stop, they would be judging them. When he was saying: "Judge not", he was talking about passing real life consequences on them, such as stoning them to death, ostracizing them socially, or excommunicating them from the city or tribe. AND it was in reference to them doing things like that, (passing ACTUAL judgment), while practicing the same things they were judging them for.

The only way what you're saying would apply, is if I actually knew him, walked in the same circles as him, saw him do this, and then decided to have him kicked out of church and ostracized and say he's going to hell for it, while secretly doing good deeds and bragging about it on Facebook, myself.

To call someone out or question their motivations is not judging people. And I find that way too many people use the "stop judging me" as a cop-out to stop people from telling them things they don't want to hear about themselves or mistakes they make. Christians are specifically told to call out sin, and help each other to stop living in it. There are countless examples of Christ's apostles themselves, saying far worse to others about their actions, than I just said to this guy. Paul chastising Peter for not sitting with Gentiles, Peter telling Simon the sorcerer he should burn in hell for trying to buy the Holy Spirit, etc...

I'm not judging this guy, I'm not saying he's sinning or doing something evil. I'm questioning his motivations for doing something good. This story could have easily inspired just as many people without putting his picture up on it for recognition. But, here's the bottom line:

If you really feel that my saying "Hey, maybe you should do this good deed anonymously." is judging the man, I trust, that from now on, everyone and anyone around you that does anything you don't agree with, you will say nothing whatsoever to question their actions or motivations, right? If someone spreads gossip about your friend, I assume you will not correct them. If someone cheats on you or someone you're close to, you wouldn't dare "judge" them by intimating that they've done the wrong thing right?

After all, you would be judging them. And I would bet my life, that you've already, at some point, called out someone or said something about someone you know, someone you knew, or someone you don't know at all (such as a celebrity) and had something critical to say about something they did. You've probably done it multiple times, because we all do it.

As a matter of fact, you JUST did it. Because you just criticized me for something I said on these forums, because you don't agree with what I said or my motivations, in the exact same way I don't agree with what this man has done and his motivations... Stop "judging" me.

Judge not, lest ye be judged. Right?
Posted 1/10/14 , edited 1/10/14
^ wow dude LOL what a speech! and you judged him because you thought that the deed he did was not out of good heart and proceeded by quoting the Bible to show him how hypocrite he was, and how right you are without actually knowing his real intentions. It just makes you look like a pretentious man of God. *rolls eyes*

Everbody judges everybody , no one is perfect. I gave you that quote just to tick you off because as the Christian freak you are, those kinds get soooo mad when you tell them 'do not judge'. And yes you were judging, and I'm judging.... can you see the pattern? no one is perfect. As for your explanation about "judgement " I don't buy it. Jesus was clear when he said that quote. It just means that we are sinners and everyone will be judged because NO ONE can follow the laws perfectly. Break one law and you're guilty of all.
I'm no Christian but I know the Bible.
Your interpretation is a good example of how the Bible can be twisted for one's purposes. The apostles were men of God and they still sinned, God many times had to call them out for their actions.

My point: there's nothing bad here to judge, or to call him a hypocrite like you did with the Bible, almost as carefully as not to look like a hater. Good job.


" 3
“Why do you look at the speck of
sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no
attention to the plank in your own eye?
4
How can you say to your brother, ‘Let
me take the speck out of your eye,’ when
all the time there is a plank in your own
eye?
5
You hypocrite, first take the plank
out of your own eye, and then you will see
clearly to remove the speck from your
brother’s eye."

@Luckyisdog sorry dude, my eyes hurt just by trying to read your sentence. But you're exactly what I meant on my post, you mock a good deed....no wonder this world is going down the hill.
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As a fellow Christian I know this passage and what it means. However I don't think the OP did a bad thing by expressing his actions. I've told others good things I've done, because I wanted to share with them that people still do good things. That doesn't mean I go around saying how many grocery stores I gave an extra dollar to for their programs or how much I gave to such and such organization, but I might tell someone that I picked up somebody from work and brought that person home because he/she doesn't have a car.

Besides, we need to share our joys so others can be joyful with us.

To the OP, I commend you. I hope that you, and all of us really, find many other opportunities to help others.
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One day I was at a bar and a group of people walk in and start talking to me and snapping photos.
It was all very fake and I'm never too drunk to notice.
I thought they were making an alibi.
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Sogno- wrote:



As a fellow Christian I know this passage and what it means. However I don't think the OP did a bad thing by expressing his actions. I've told others good things I've done, because I wanted to share with them that people still do good things. That doesn't mean I go around saying how many grocery stores I gave an extra dollar to for their programs or how much I gave to such and such organization, but I might tell someone that I picked up somebody from work and brought that person home because he/she doesn't have a car.

Besides, we need to share our joys so others can be joyful with us.

To the OP, I commend you. I hope that you, and all of us really, find many other opportunities to help others.


I don't think the OP did a bad thing, either. He helped someone in need. Listen, back when I was in college, I would've loved to have this guy around me. I used to run an organization that partnered up with churches in the city to feed and help the homeless, minister to at-risk youth and witness to those who didn't know Christ. I love when things are done for the homeless, because I was homeless myself at one point, before the Lord saved me and opened up the door for me to go to college. I'm not knocking this guy's actions at all.

I'm just stating my own personal opinion that things like this should be done without putting photos of ourselves up next to it. I'm not saying don't do good deeds, I'm just saying there's a fine line between charity and glory-seeking and we have to be careful not to cross it. Perhaps it's my own sensitivity to it, because I was accused of doing that in the past with a different local charity organization that gained a little notoriety for our work. And I WAS doing it, without even realizing it. Putting my name and face out there on front street, never even realizing I was being self-serving in a sense. Being confronted about it helped me back then.

And, again, I honestly don't know if that is even this guy's intent. I doubt that he was seriously thinking: "I'll get some internet cred with this." I was just saying I was reminded of the scripture not to do our works to be seen of men. So, maybe IF he was thinking that, if he's even a Christian, my statement might get him to thinking about it more carefully. That's all. Like I said in my original post, I'm not trying to flame, hate or rain on his parade. I'm just stating my opinion that if you do this, you shouldn't put your picture up next to it, as it could be perceived as glory hunting. That's all. In truth, I probably wouldn't have even thought about it at all if weren't for the picture.
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I call bullshit. Who "does a good deed" then proceeds to flaunt it in front of everybody.
Posted 1/10/14 , edited 1/10/14
^Oh God, what would you guys say about this then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SctCxERhfFI#t=46

Go flood the youtube comments with your ignorant opinions. Or are videos more acceptable than pictures? you guys are such a joke and it's not even funny.
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well that sure is a damn good deed, I commend you for that, you deserve some good karma, I mean who the fuck robs a guy for 13 bucks( excuse the language)
I'd do the same for a legit homeless person but around here where i'm at they are almost all faking it, one of my dads friends gave a "homeless man" with a sign asking for food a full McDonalds meal and the guy took it and threw it on the ground and stomped on it, he had to just grit his teeth and walk away. (all the guy wanted was money for alcohol, most likely)
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There's nothing wrong with sharing your experiences of helping others. I'm amazed at how people get so butt hurt over the most retarded things that don't even concern them in the first place.

You helped someone and it felt good? Great! Humans typically tend to help others because it gives them the personal satisfaction that they "did the right thing." If that didn't matter to you, then you wouldn't bother helping in the first place, and that person would be worse off.

LuckyIsDog said

ur helping the poor to make yourself feel better, mr. robin h00d.


What's wrong with that? Most volunteers volunteer because they feel good about doing so. No one gives up their free time or hard earned money just for the hell of it. No, they do it because they receive the satisfaction of helping others in return.

If you disagree with that, then you should have no qualms with sending me a few hundred dollars just for the hell of it.
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kirika202 wrote:

^ wow dude LOL what a speech! and you judged him because you thought that the deed he did was not out of good heart and proceeded by quoting the Bible to show him how hypocrite he was, and how right you are without actually knowing his real intentions. It just makes you look like a pretentious man of God. *rolls eyes*

Everbody judges everybody , no one is perfect. I gave you that quote just to tick you off because as the Christian freak you are, those kinds get soooo mad when you tell them 'do not judge'. And yes you were judging, and I'm judging.... can you see the pattern? no one is perfect. As for your explanation about "judgement " I don't buy it. Jesus was clear when he said that quote. It just means that we are sinners and everyone will be judged because NO ONE can follow the laws perfectly. Break one law and you're guilty of all.
I'm no Christian but I know the Bible.
Your interpretation is a good example of how the Bible can be twisted for one's purposes. The apostles were men of God and they still sinned, God many times had to call them out for their actions.

My point: there's nothing bad here to judge, or to call him a hypocrite like you did with the Bible, almost as carefully as not to look like a hater. Good job.


" 3
“Why do you look at the speck of
sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no
attention to the plank in your own eye?
4
How can you say to your brother, ‘Let
me take the speck out of your eye,’ when
all the time there is a plank in your own
eye?
5
You hypocrite, first take the plank
out of your own eye, and then you will see
clearly to remove the speck from your
brother’s eye."

@Luckyisdog sorry dude, my eyes hurt just by trying to read your sentence. But you're exactly what I meant on my post, you mock a good deed....no wonder this world is going down the hill.



So, let me see if I get this straight:

You took the time to get offended with me, because you assume you know my intentions, when you do not. Because in your opinion, I took the time to assume I knew this guy's intentions, when I do not, and specifically said I do not.


And so, even though I specifically told you my thoughts, you decide to completely ignore that and go upon your own errant interpretation thereof. And so, your reaction, is to then do the same thing: "judge me", thus making yourself an actual hypocrite, by doing the exact same thing you're offended over, in order to prove a point that doesn't really matter to you because you're not even a Christian. You just wanted to tick me off? (An endeavor which failed, because I'm not even close to being ticked off. I've had guns stuck in my face. Believe me, you don't even have the capacity to move me emotionally through a keyboard.)

To top off this absurdity, you then proceed to label me a hypocrite, while labeling yourself one and thus invalidating everything you're saying, and making the meaning behind what you've done absolutely moot. But then, wash the whole bizarre rant down with a "We all judge each other and no one is perfect" line, which not only excuses what you did, but what you THINK I did, and even what I suggested this guy MIGHT have been doing.

What a waste of your time.

Let me spell things out for you, since you seem to be confused about many things:

A. I said I was reminded of that particular scripture. I did not call the man a hypocrite using the bible. The word hypocrite just happens to be in the scripture. MY point, aside from your delusional interpretations thereof, is that we should do our good deeds in secret. I SPECIFICALLY said:

This probably doesn't mean anything to non-Christians, but I just think it's a good way to live. Do your good deeds in secret, because putting them on blast just comes off as tacky and ostentatious, almost like you're doing it to make yourself feel and look good.

I don't have to mince my words to not seem like a hater, because if I hate something, I'll say so. If I thought he was a hypocrite, I would've called him one. I said the action of putting his picture up there for recognition comes off as tacky and ostentatious. It's the same way I feel about people going all on TV to announce they're giving a million dollars to Africa, or putting out a press release that they're going to do something for the inner-city. Christian or no, calling attention to yourself doing good deeds is tacky. That's the way I feel and THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

B. You're "buying it" is not my concern. Because I'm not selling anything. I actually AM a Christian and therefore, I KNOW the word I'm speaking. Why are you trying to stand on ground you don't even believe in? Because without foundation and study, you get things completely wrong. And so, you make a stand on a scripture taken out of context, and then the following happens:

You say never call someone out on doing anything wrong, right? Because that's judging them, right? And certainly, the Bible never says to call them out, or say anything or intimate anything is untoward, right?

Galatians 6:1: Brother, if anyone is caught in transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness.
1st Timothy: 5:20: As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.
Matthew 18:15-17: If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not hear you, go and grab 2 or 3 others that by the mouth of two or three witness every word may be established. If he still refuses to hear, tell it to the church and if he refuses to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and tax collector.
1st Corinthians 5:12: For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?
Proverbs 27:17: As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.
Luke 17:3: Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him and if he repents, forgive him.
2nd Timothy 4:13: "Preach the Word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all long suffering and teaching."

Tell me again how the Bible says we're not supposed to call out sin? I mean, what exactly were the Apostles doing, if they weren't telling people they weren't calling unbelievers out of their lifestyles? Were they getting stoned, thrown off cliffs, sawed in two or crucified upside down because they were passing along warm fuzzy feelings to fellow Jews, Romans and gentiles?

And to wrap up this, suddenly unbelievably pointless debate:

I don't think the guy sinned.
I don't think he did anything wrong, because I don't know his intentions by putting his picture up there.
I don't think he's a hypocrite.
I do think putting your picture up next to good deeds is gaudy and ostentatious.
I do NOT care if you agree with that.
I do NOT care if you want to believe I have any other thoughts or opinions that I didn't write about this matter that I do not have.

Discussion done. Have a nice day.

PS: "Freak" is a compliment to us. Find a better insult if you're going to sink low enough to delve into childish insults with those who disagree with you.
Posted 1/10/14
You did a nice thing. Good job.
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Whoa guys....calm your shit... and hats off to you, you did a really nice thing
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I don't get the people having a go for him 'flaunting' his good deed. Regardless of the intent behind it he still did something nice. What's wrong with giving an explanation behind why you made a forum topic? He's done more than you sat behind your screen saying 'stop trying to make yourself feel good'.
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tf2pyros wrote:

I decided what to do from the heart, and it felt absolutely great. I asked him what his favorite all-time food was, and he said "roast beef". We went to Arby's and he feasted on a full meal, with a drink. I then took him to the mall here by surprise and had him come to Converse with me. I found him a stylish pair of Converse, the more insulated kind for cold days, as well as 6 pairs of socks. He couldn't be happier. His smile just made the cold day over here much warmer.


DISGUSTING!

Man is naturally selfish. The only reason you enjoyed that deed was because of the "high" you got afterwards. Because the human species was originally a pack animal our brains are hardwired to release chemicals that "feel good" whenever we corporate with our fellow man. It’s no better than doing drugs, nice people are addicted to the feeling they get when they help someone. They don't do nice things because they are selfless, they do it to make themselves feel better (whether they know it or not). So there you have it, that "warm, fuzzy feeling" is nothing more than a chemical reaction in your head.
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Nice. Good job. I don't get the negative comments on this thread.

If I'd done something like this, I'd definitely post it, or share it with others. Call it flaunting or whatever… nothing wrong with being proud of doing a good thing.

If everybody hid the good things they did, nobody'd ever know about them. A story like this inspires and encourages others to do the same. Why hide it?
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