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Tired of lack of closure
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Posted 1/15/14 , edited 1/15/14

marvell2k wrote:


FuturePriest wrote:

Berserk nuff said


Berserk at least has those movies. I was so pissed about that series back in 1999 watching it on fan subs. About 3 years ago I read the comple manga with still no closure left in sight. Don't know if it's still ongoing.


Stop REMINDING ME!

The Manga just recently went on Hiatus, they JUST FINISHED THE SEA GOD ARC! AND THAT CHAPTER CAME OUT LIKE 6 MONTHS BEFORE THEY ANNOUNCED THE YEAR LONG HIATUS! Kentarou Miura is going to be working on a Shoujo Romance manga...a short one he says, BAAAH STOP PLAYING IDOLMASTER YOU DAMN BASTARD!

The ending of Berserks Anime was indeed a cliff hanger, but I didn't mind it.

Compare to a lot of other anime and their open endings to every single god damn story arc.

I'd rather go watch Dragonball Z again, where they have a conclusive ending to every Saga, but an open ending to every ending.

Demon King Piccolo ends the series? Married and Happy! But wait, SAIYANS! Freeza taken care of? Died to protect the people he loved? Goku is back next week to fight Androids and Future Bio Androids! Cell Games over, Gohan is the champion of Earth? 7 year time skip and High School arc! Majin Buu defeated....we got Uub and his nonsense for future episodes(if we ever needed them!)



I'll suggest you watch older anime for proper closure...but I've also wanted this exact same thing recently. Even shows that tell a cohesive story don't provide the closure I want. They're all just sequel baiting, not enough proper ending.
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FMA:BrotherHood or Pscyo-Pass left me in a "I am ok with this mode."
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Posted 1/15/14

EmpReb wrote:

FMA:BrotherHood or Pscyo-Pass left me in a "I am ok with this mode."


FMA: Brotherhood had the same ending as the manga......
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Koda89 wrote:


EmpReb wrote:

FMA:BrotherHood or Pscyo-Pass left me in a "I am ok with this mode."


FMA: Brotherhood had the same ending as the manga......


Part of the reason it was so good. A MAJOR part.
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EmpReb wrote:


Koda89 wrote:


EmpReb wrote:

FMA:BrotherHood or Pscyo-Pass left me in a "I am ok with this mode."


FMA: Brotherhood had the same ending as the manga......


Part of the reason it was so good. A MAJOR part.


I agree. But it is one of those few examples of an anime coming out as the source material is ending.
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I have always hated the endings of Escaflowne and Shikabane Hime, they shit me off to no end.
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supasoggyrolle wrote:

Totally agree with this. I think the worst offenders are Harem and romance animes. I'm tired of seeing the protagonist go through 13 or 26 episodes of trying to decide which girl he likes the most, and then a front runner emerges from the pack, but then for some stupid reason, he doesn't seal the deal. It's left open, or with all the girls rushing in flirting with him in the final scenes while he reacts with an "Aw shucks" look on his face. DECIDE FOOL!



Yeah these are the ones I mainly was talking of too, like my little monster the last episode is like huh???? .....
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It does get annoying, especially the light novel ones since finding translations for those is harder. . What I hate most in anime is when they start building up a romance but it is never finished (Baka to Test). I also happen to hate when they show a scene at the very end that hints at a new problem or something to build off of but the next season never comes (Ambition of Oda Nobuna).

However, when an amazing anime ends with sufficient (but not complete) closer is when I just feel sad inside (Hitman Reborn and Ben-to). Anime-only endings also make me feel this way since they are never that good in my experience (Blue Exorcist and Soul Eater).
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...Yeah these are the ones I mainly was talking of too, like my little monster the last episode is like huh???? .....
That's because it ended at the end of book 4. Book 13 just came out... how could it be done???

Alternatively you have Say I Love You. It didn't finish the books but went anime only ending instead. Kind of more satisfying... unless you know there is more and the fact that they had an anime-only ending means you aren't getting any more anime.

Stop dreaming of FMP anime continuations. That author's new books are being made into anime so FMP is... done I'm afraid.

As mentioned above, the anime is usually an ad for ongoing work which means... it isn't done yet. Only solution is to check and only watch original anime but even there, you have no guarantee they will finish it nicely.

Just the way it is. On Hollywood network television sometimes they cancel a show halfway through the season. Life goes on...
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uncletim wrote:


Des85 wrote:

Read the manga.


That is the biggest cop out in anime



Hey how do you think I feel? Nana was never finished
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I've been told to read the manga on a few occasions, and it really pisses me off.

First of all, if I really wanted to read the manga, I wouldn't have bothered with the anime in the first place.

Second, the final crappy episodes to series that I would place into this thread were not inspiring enough to warrant getting my hands on the manga despite any lack of closure.

A studio/company that deliberately botches the ending of an anime in an effort to get more readers to its manga is not the studio/company whose manga I really want to be reading anyway. What a piss-poor strategy for growing your customer base.
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That is why I like shows such as Ghost in the shell or other anime which are inspired by a manga or story, but are essentially a spinoff and unique. Not being tied down to an existing storyline gives them more freeplay in their creativity.
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I agree that is frustrating when you find an unsatisfying ending but I think also that people need to remember that:
1) Not all anime companies have a pre-planed time date and schedule of when the anime will finish (or will be canceled after 100 episodes).
2) Most of the anime companies have also a quite limited budget and work their brains out all week. They are not Hollywood producers driving a Ferrari during the weekend.
3) Many anime series are created after the manga becomes popular. Often they must rush because if they wait too long they loose momentum and audience. Also, most companies have no idea of when the audience will get tired and suddenly the ratings will drop like a rock.
4) Because they want to take advantage of the popularity of the manga sometimes they catch up with the manga. If the stop the series they loose audience that will not come back solution: filling episodes. I don't like them either but I understand why they exist.
Most people are human (I hope ), people make mistakes and unfortunately not all of them have the time, budget and personal to create an amazing ending with a satisfying closure with the time and people that they have at their disposal. It's annoying but it just the nature of the beast.
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FMA got the best treatment if you ask me. It's original anime was done really well with a good ending, and it got a second closer to the manga anime that also did extremely well. Then again though, it was one of those series that you could market the hell out of, the base material was so good that it would sell no matter what form it was in.

What surprises me though is Death Note and Bakuman. Both of those more or less had complete animes, and the animes finished AFTER the end of the mangas with the same endings as the mangas. Obata Takeshi seems to be like a celebrity in the manga world because everything he works on always gets a royal treatment.

I kind of think that Sword Art Online is going to be completed eventually, in anime form. If you ask me it is a bad series, but despite that it is a very popular series with a very popular premise. Season 1 sold like hot cakes with merchandise and video games selling left and right. If Season 2 does well, then they will probably treat it well.

The animes that leave you wanting more though are usually those animes that companies think will make a quick buck but aren't worth pushing beyond that. They are usually based on somewhat popular mangas or light novels and usually are made because they think the series is at the peak of its popularity and that it is all down hill from here. Some times you get series that gain unexpected popularity, like Haganai, Shana, or Oreimo and companies feel like they can actually make money by having those series get multiple seasons. Usually though it is just a gamble, and you end up with a series that isn't bad but doesn't sell well, so there is no reason for them to make a second season.

As a general rule of thumb though, Shonen manga series (Naruto, One Piece, etc) get long runs, Dating Sim / Ero game series get a full closure run ( they have all the base material they need, they just go through one path), light novels get 1-2 seasons but rarely complete, non-shonen manga get 1 season with an anime original ending.

If you are a shojo manga fan, all I can say is read the manga. Shojo manga almost NEVER get more than 1 incomplete season.
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xxJing wrote:

As a general rule of thumb though, Shonen manga series (Naruto, One Piece, etc) get long runs, Dating Sim / Ero game series get a full closure run ( they have all the base material they need, they just go through one path), light novels get 1-2 seasons but rarely complete, non-shonen manga get 1 season with an anime original ending.


A piece of wisdom never to be forgotten. The only light novel series I've seen completed in anime form would be "Zero no Tsukaima". But that was J.C. and who knows what they are thinking half the time. I think the only way more of the "substantial" anime that get complete closure would be those light novels that get so much hype that it makes bank, or the instant "classics" (if one can call them that) that appear once every few years.
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