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Posted 1/17/14 , edited 1/18/14
Just had a crazy idea. What if there was manga in semi-gif format?



For example, imagine the manga frame with Wyald, the Black Dog Knight leader, in gif format with his evil aura pulsating. I don't figure this concept should be used with each frame, but it could be implemented to add an extra level of next gen detail without losing the integrity of the artwork. Simply used to express subtle details. I'd loooooove that.

Anywho, having this style transferred to a E-book (like) tablet or other electronic devices would be hella awesome for digital viewing.
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Posted 1/18/14


Hi,

Sorry, I had to edit your post slightly - links to illegal hosts aren't allowed, per the site rules.

That said, I like the idea! I saw something like it done in Flash as a test a little while ago (if I can find the link again, I'll post it here), and it was really nifty, though it sounded like a fair bit of work. They were doing original animated manga, though, because of licensing issues and because it was easier to have everything already split into the layers so they could do the planned movement.

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Posted 1/18/14
So pretty much a stepping stone in between actual Anime/Animation and Manga? I probably wouldn't mind seeing it occasionally but not all the time. Also since everyone reads at different speeds it would really only work on fight scenes or like your example when someone is emitting an aura, or powering up (think DBZ).

I doubt it would really come into fruition though outside of some small webcomics or whatever. Since most authors do it all on paper me thinks it would mean more time to draw more scenes in a sense to do the fight/power up/whatever scene, and well the common joke in manga is the author is already barely making deadline so adding more work would just be more hectic for the author.
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Posted 1/18/14 , edited 1/18/14

Auechre wrote:

Just had a crazy idea. What if there was manga in semi-gif format?

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For example, imagine the manga frame with Wyald, the Black Dog Knight leader, in gif format with his evil aura pulsating. I don't figure this concept should be used with each frame, but it could be implemented to add an extra level of next gen detail without losing the integrity of the artwork. Simply used to express subtle details. I'd loooooove that.

Anywho, having this style transferred to a E-book (like) tablet or other electronic devices would be hella awesome for digital viewing.

The closest would be visual novels at the moment.
Some have taken a step forward to a point it's pretty much like watching an anime with multiple choices, schooldays is literally that.
The muv-luv series made there own engine to make stereotypical "moving images" a lot more entertaining, back in 2003 but upgraded there rUGP engine in 2006 and put in overdrive. Not sure how many people have followed there example but they're definitely a unique example in the visual novel world.

There use to actually be animated panels for manga back in the 90s, i'm not sure how often people practice this anymore since it can be costly.
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Posted 1/18/14 , edited 1/18/14
One Punch Man has panels that flow like animation, if that's what you're referring to. Here are some .gif examples:





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Posted 1/18/14 , edited 1/18/14
I edited the main post. Sorry I was lazy about it.

Anywho,


Shrapnel893 wrote:

One Punch Man has panels that flow like animation, if that's what you're referring to. Here are some .gif examples:







This is neat and close to what I'm alluding to, but I find it a little too forced/clunky looking. It's alright, but not what most people would care to see at least speaking for myself. Almost too fast and dizzying to deal with constantly.



What I'm referring to is subtle details. Like making the scene "breathe" without necessarily having movement. Like wind rustling the characters hair or the grass moving. Auras pulsating like mentioned before. Subtlety is key here. I don't really care to see .gif fighting scenes in a manga as that's why I watch anime. I feel that with the right experience and perception about how to get it done, the costs and technology are right about in the perfect zone to start doing this efficiently.

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Posted 1/18/14 , edited 1/18/14
I actually had the same exact idea as you. I intend to do this for a webcomic I am working on (the story isn't even finished yet). I what I plan on doing is showing leaves, tree branches, hair flow with the wind; power-ups, flashing lights, etc. I felt that this would help in making it feel more alive.

Fortunately there is a website (Tapastic.com) that hosts comics and allows popular uploaders to earn revenue from people reading their works, and it also supports gifs, like this tapastic.com/episode/5297
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Posted 1/18/14
yeah that would be cool, going by your example. but i kinda think this what anime is for lol (even if on a much grander scale)
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League of Legends did a comic for one of their champions Udyr where the panels had mini animation such as fire moving or wind rustling or a new characters moving slightly. Check it out. I think it's a good example of what your talking about.
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Motion books come to mind when I read your post.
Here are some you might want to check out:
http://www.deviantart.com/motionbooks/
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Posted 1/19/14

Sogno- wrote:

yeah that would be cool, going by your example. but i kinda think this what anime is for lol (even if on a much grander scale)
Yes, but it costs millions of dollars to make an anime. A manga is relatively inexpensive.

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What I'm referring to is subtle details. Like making the scene "breathe" without necessarily having movement. Like wind rustling the characters hair or the grass moving. Auras pulsating like mentioned before. Subtlety is key here. I don't really care to see .gif fighting scenes in a manga as that's why I watch anime. I feel that with the right experience and perception about how to get it done, the costs and technology are right about in the perfect zone to start doing this efficiently.



That's a brilliant idea!
I remember seeing a gif of the title page from AoT- A choice with no regrets. It shows Levi's clothes and hair rustling with the wind and his eyes blinking. I found it on Tumblr, but I can't seem to find it anymore :/
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Posted 1/21/14
To be honest, I think I'd find it annoying.
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Posted 1/23/14
Have u seen zac gorman's comics, he often puts small bits of animation in panels, though his work isn't manga in style.
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Posted 2/10/14 , edited 2/10/14
Do you mean something like a cinemagraph where there are only subtle changes in the background. Such as this spirited away .gif


I think it could work brilliantly, it would allow everyone to maintain there own individual reading pace whilst being able to appreciate animation, it would mean i'd have to read manga online rather than buy a physical copy though.
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