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Dolphin slaughter in Japan - What are your thoughts?
Posted 1/21/14 , edited 1/21/14
The blood red water picture hurts my heart.

I don't approve of cruelty to animals not only in Japan, but in any place in the world where it happens (and it happens everywhere). Slaughter of dolphins, whaling, poaching, slaughter-house-treatment, animal-fighting, illegal animal selling...etc.

It is truly terrible and heartbreaking. Just because it isn't human doesn't mean you can do whatever you please.

I understand hunting animals for food and whatnot, but only when necessary, and you should kill the creature in a humane way.
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Dolphins are very alike humans in metacognitive ability. So they actually have their very consciousness, even some animals have morals. It's kind of shameful that humans disregard anything that is unlike them to be important, treating them as face value so they can kill them with conscience.
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Just an interesting articles that shows how intelligent Dolphins really are. They do call each other individiual names and someday we might be able to communicate with them. Doesn't the fact that they could develop a language make them like people?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2373831/Dolphins-intelligent-individual-NAMES-just-like-humans.html
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

Well I find the sound of 'dolphin slaughter' to sound rather funny, also dolphins apparently try to rape humans since they're the only other animal to have sex for pleasure. Is it a bad thing? Probably, but I don't feel the need to religiously rebel against the whole concept.


Nope. You skipped over Bonobos. Except they're very peaceful and don't rape. Arguably male dogs, too, if their "humping habits" are any indication.
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I don't like the slaughter, but I refuse to blame an entire culture for it.
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Well Give me a gun then i be at the top

we are close to bottom with out tools but with tools we are at the top

But then again we developed the tools because aware brains.
So this wrong in my eyes we are at the top any way.
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Posted 1/21/14

aeb0717 wrote:


BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

Well I find the sound of 'dolphin slaughter' to sound rather funny, also dolphins apparently try to rape humans since they're the only other animal to have sex for pleasure. Is it a bad thing? Probably, but I don't feel the need to religiously rebel against the whole concept.


Nope. You skipped over Bonobos. Except they're very peaceful and don't rape. Arguably male dogs, too, if their "humping habits" are any indication.


Oh, right. Well the main points still stand i.e. I don't care a ton and 'dolphin slaughter' tickles my sick sense of humour.
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We have to keep their numbers down so that when they figure out how to travel on land, we'll stand a fighting chance in the war to come.

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We have to keep their numbers down so that when they figure out how to travel on land, we'll stand a fighting chance in the war to come.



It wouldn't need the water tanks. Dolphins don't have gills (they're mammals, remember?). Either way, horrible war mech.

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Morality and legality are two totally different things. That said, it is legal. You may protest it, but if you do not conform to the local law when you protest you face risks and penalties. You may attempt to financially impact the industry responsible, but it is unlikely you are already a customer. For a US citizen the better mode of operation would be to raise awareness of all US based companies that benefit and then organize protests and boycotts.

Morally? Well that depends on your personal morals. I do not view killing anything, sentient or not, as inherently wrong. Killing can be wrong, but it is not wrong by its very nature from my moral perspective. It is highly unlikely anyone will ever change that opinion, so for my morality it is essentially a fact. Intentionally killing without a recognizable and justifiable purpose IS wrong from my perspective. For example, shooting a man to watch him die would be wrong, as whatever is derived from that does not justify the loss of his unique consciousness nor his pain and suffering. Shooting the same man to protect you and yours is different from my moral perspective.

I do not agree with animal industry practices that any crueler than is necessary. I also do not agree with practices that wantonly contribute to a reduction in biodiversity. I do not have data handy, but I would suspect that this practice is likely violating the two aforementioned qualifiers. I would not ask that they stop killing dolphins entirely, but I would ask for a greater level of stewardship. Many fisheries used to provide more abundance than humans could make a dent in. Unfortunately our needs and wants have skyrocketed and we have not modified out practices to take that into account, endangering the long term viability of our fisheries through over fishing and pollutants. In the end it is not the ocean that will suffer. It will adapt eventually, it just may not be very supportive of or friendly to human life.
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madmejis wrote:

Humans are the top of the food chain. As long as they are doing it legally, I don't have a problem with it. If they are poaching then that's when we have problems. People will say as long as it's within the law that's such a cop out, but look we all gotta eat it's a job end of story. If you have enough to pay them so they stop they probably will, but someone else will see profit in the operation and continue it. Welcome to the real world kiddos.


The issue is not that they are killing animals for food. The issue is that they are killing an animal no one fucking eats. There are plenty of other things available to eat, and I HIGHLY doubt that Japan is starving. I understand that people need to eat, and I believe that some animals on put on this Earth to be eaten, but dolphins don't strike me as one of them. Only a small amount of Japanese people eat dolphins. It's clearly a luxury. They don't need to eat dolphins to survive. It's almost like a sport. Controlling the population? Yeah, bullshit. The real world doesn't need to kill dolphins to survive. It's not about surviving until tomorrow. The real world isn't that black and white anymore.


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Do you find this worse than the mass slaughter and consumption of other animals?



Certain animals, yes, because only a small portion of Japanese eat dolphins. All these slaughters are doing are catering to the spoiled brats that want to eat dolphin.


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We should show some concern for all of those Anchovies dolphins eat.
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Wait, why are they killing them??? I get that they rounded up a bunch and sold some of them off, but why are they killing the rest?

Why are they slaughtering dolphins?

My gut reaction is against this, of course. But I can't really form an honest opinion until I understand why the heck they are slaughtering all these dolphins.
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bassoonbg wrote:

Knowing what is happening to those incredibly intelligent beings is very sobering and makes me feel somewhat guilty for supporting Japan through other means until this terrible practice is ended for good. Please share your thoughts about this!
Don't make the mistake of lumping in an entire cultures populace with one aspect of it. If you want to not support the slaughter of dolphins just make sure to do some research and not support the parts of Japanese industry that have a hand in it, which I'm pretty sure are likely not heavily tied into the arts industry(anymore than any industries these days aren't interlinked by large corporations of course). I mean you don't boycott your local Natural Foods co-op or whatever(assuming you patronize that type of place of course) just because its in America and shares space with McDonalds, do you? In fact by not patronizing what you consider the positive aspects of their collective Industry you are just hurting that part of it and by doing so actually increasing the relative worth of the aspects you disapprove of.



THIS

Be careful that you don't generalize all the country's pop. thoughts on certain things based on the actions of certain individuals or groups. Its like basing what all Americans believe in from the Westboro people.

I would not be surprised if there are Japanese citizens that oppose the dolphin slaughter.


Sorry if it sounds kind of disorganized.

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Posted 1/21/14
Good Lord!
I've never seen something that violent.
Then again, I'm pretty sure it happens everywhere.
As for me, I wouldn't be killing something that doesn't do anything dangerous to me. I like to put little spiders outside when
there is one in my room.
Ahhh.. The human nature...
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