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Posted 1/22/14 , edited 1/22/14


Alright, I retract the part of my statement that implies it was your idea.
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dog_kind wrote:

@saksiss
Well its a theory, since Sasuke has the same eyes as Madara when he achieved the rinnegan, it should be possible for Sasuke to achieve it as well and the Show kind of hints that Naruto has inherited the sages life force and physical energy
While Sasuke has inherited his eyes(rinnegan), powerful chakra and spiritual energy.


Not exactly. Before Madara obtained the rinnegan, he had the sharingan AND Hashirama's senju DNA. Sasuke only has the sharingan but no Senju DNA. Just a side note, what Hashirama gave to Sasuke was a jutsu (so chakra, not DNA), and as we all know, you need the DNA of both halves in order to obtain the rinnegan. This being said, Sasuke cannot obtain the rinnegan.

Now, as for Naruto. The Uzumaki clan is a distant branch of the Senju clan, not a close direct branch, so being an Uzumaki is not enough to count as senju DNA. Even IF it was eligible, Naruto still does not have any UCHIHA DNA. I'm sure you're thinking "but what about the crow that Itachi implanted within Naruto?" Well 2 things: (1) Shisui's sharingan was in the crow itself, so it wouldn't have any effect on Naruto, it was just stored within him for safekeeping. (2) Both the crow and the sharingan within it were removed from Naruto in episode 299, when Itachi used Kotoamatsukami on himself to release the reanimation jutsu's hold over him.

The only way I could see either of them getting the rinnegan is if (and this is a huge stretch) Naruto were to steal a sharingan and implant it in himself, then go and harvest some of Hashirama's DNA, either from the man himself or from Zetsu.

Or Sasuke could just go harvest senju DNA, but both would have to wait for it to activate naturally, and God knows how long that would take IF it were to.

TL;DR:
Sasuke has Uchiha DNA but no Senju.
Naruto has neither Senju OR Uchiha DNA.
So neither are eligible for the Rinnegan.
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The fight has gotten to a point where any solution to this situation would seem stupid to me. The next few chapters better prove me wrong
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found this on a random forum i was reading:
"I believe that Kishi is making them seem to "die" in order to provide a twist to the decree that Naruto told Sasuke. Remember the whole dieing together bit? This could qualify as "that" moment."

totally forgot about it. not really relevant, but interesting.
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hot_mess26 wrote:

found this on a random forum i was reading:
"I believe that Kishi is making them seem to "die" in order to provide a twist to the decree that Naruto told Sasuke. Remember the whole dieing together bit? This could qualify as "that" moment."

totally forgot about it. not really relevant, but interesting.


Yeah, I felt like that moment of Naruto telling Sasuke that they will both die would foreshadowing something, and it came to fruition with this chapter (somewhat)
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Posted 1/23/14 , edited 1/23/14

saksiss wrote:


dog_kind wrote:

@saksiss
Well its a theory, since Sasuke has the same eyes as Madara when he achieved the rinnegan, it should be possible for Sasuke to achieve it as well and the Show kind of hints that Naruto has inherited the sages life force and physical energy
While Sasuke has inherited his eyes(rinnegan), powerful chakra and spiritual energy.


Not exactly. Before Madara obtained the rinnegan, he had the sharingan AND Hashirama's senju DNA. Sasuke only has the sharingan but no Senju DNA. Just a side note, what Hashirama gave to Sasuke was a jutsu (so chakra, not DNA), and as we all know, you need the DNA of both halves in order to obtain the rinnegan. This being said, Sasuke cannot obtain the rinnegan.

Now, as for Naruto. The Uzumaki clan is a distant branch of the Senju clan, not a close direct branch, so being an Uzumaki is not enough to count as senju DNA. Even IF it was eligible, Naruto still does not have any UCHIHA DNA. I'm sure you're thinking "but what about the crow that Itachi implanted within Naruto?" Well 2 things: (1) Shisui's sharingan was in the crow itself, so it wouldn't have any effect on Naruto, it was just stored within him for safekeeping. (2) Both the crow and the sharingan within it were removed from Naruto in episode 299, when Itachi used Kotoamatsukami on himself to release the reanimation jutsu's hold over him.

The only way I could see either of them getting the rinnegan is if (and this is a huge stretch) Naruto were to steal a sharingan and implant it in himself, then go and harvest some of Hashirama's DNA, either from the man himself or from Zetsu.

Or Sasuke could just go harvest senju DNA, but both would have to wait for it to activate naturally, and God knows how long that would take IF it were to.

TL;DR:
Sasuke has Uchiha DNA but no Senju.
Naruto has neither Senju OR Uchiha DNA.
So neither are eligible for the Rinnegan.


Naruto has Senju DNA the Uzumaki are distant blood relatives of the Senju.. Sasuke could have gotten Senju DNA from the 1st hokage just like Madara
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pewpewv3 wrote:


saksiss wrote:


dog_kind wrote:

@saksiss
Well its a theory, since Sasuke has the same eyes as Madara when he achieved the rinnegan, it should be possible for Sasuke to achieve it as well and the Show kind of hints that Naruto has inherited the sages life force and physical energy
While Sasuke has inherited his eyes(rinnegan), powerful chakra and spiritual energy.


Not exactly. Before Madara obtained the rinnegan, he had the sharingan AND Hashirama's senju DNA. Sasuke only has the sharingan but no Senju DNA. Just a side note, what Hashirama gave to Sasuke was a jutsu (so chakra, not DNA), and as we all know, you need the DNA of both halves in order to obtain the rinnegan. This being said, Sasuke cannot obtain the rinnegan.

Now, as for Naruto. The Uzumaki clan is a distant branch of the Senju clan, not a close direct branch, so being an Uzumaki is not enough to count as senju DNA. Even IF it was eligible, Naruto still does not have any UCHIHA DNA. I'm sure you're thinking "but what about the crow that Itachi implanted within Naruto?" Well 2 things: (1) Shisui's sharingan was in the crow itself, so it wouldn't have any effect on Naruto, it was just stored within him for safekeeping. (2) Both the crow and the sharingan within it were removed from Naruto in episode 299, when Itachi used Kotoamatsukami on himself to release the reanimation jutsu's hold over him.

The only way I could see either of them getting the rinnegan is if (and this is a huge stretch) Naruto were to steal a sharingan and implant it in himself, then go and harvest some of Hashirama's DNA, either from the man himself or from Zetsu.

Or Sasuke could just go harvest senju DNA, but both would have to wait for it to activate naturally, and God knows how long that would take IF it were to.

TL;DR:
Sasuke has Uchiha DNA but no Senju.
Naruto has neither Senju OR Uchiha DNA.
So neither are eligible for the Rinnegan.


Naruto has Senju DNA the Uzumaki are closely related to teh Senju.. Sasuke could have gotten Senju DNA from the 1st hokage just like Madara


No, they're not closely related, but for arguments sake, just say they are.. He still has no Uchiha DNA.
As for Sasuke, when would he have gotten Senju DNA? Because it sure as hell wasn't in the previous chapter when Hashirama gave him the jutsu.
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saksiss wrote:


pewpewv3 wrote:


saksiss wrote:


dog_kind wrote:

@saksiss
Well its a theory, since Sasuke has the same eyes as Madara when he achieved the rinnegan, it should be possible for Sasuke to achieve it as well and the Show kind of hints that Naruto has inherited the sages life force and physical energy
While Sasuke has inherited his eyes(rinnegan), powerful chakra and spiritual energy.


Not exactly. Before Madara obtained the rinnegan, he had the sharingan AND Hashirama's senju DNA. Sasuke only has the sharingan but no Senju DNA. Just a side note, what Hashirama gave to Sasuke was a jutsu (so chakra, not DNA), and as we all know, you need the DNA of both halves in order to obtain the rinnegan. This being said, Sasuke cannot obtain the rinnegan.

Now, as for Naruto. The Uzumaki clan is a distant branch of the Senju clan, not a close direct branch, so being an Uzumaki is not enough to count as senju DNA. Even IF it was eligible, Naruto still does not have any UCHIHA DNA. I'm sure you're thinking "but what about the crow that Itachi implanted within Naruto?" Well 2 things: (1) Shisui's sharingan was in the crow itself, so it wouldn't have any effect on Naruto, it was just stored within him for safekeeping. (2) Both the crow and the sharingan within it were removed from Naruto in episode 299, when Itachi used Kotoamatsukami on himself to release the reanimation jutsu's hold over him.

The only way I could see either of them getting the rinnegan is if (and this is a huge stretch) Naruto were to steal a sharingan and implant it in himself, then go and harvest some of Hashirama's DNA, either from the man himself or from Zetsu.

Or Sasuke could just go harvest senju DNA, but both would have to wait for it to activate naturally, and God knows how long that would take IF it were to.

TL;DR:
Sasuke has Uchiha DNA but no Senju.
Naruto has neither Senju OR Uchiha DNA.
So neither are eligible for the Rinnegan.


Naruto has Senju DNA the Uzumaki are closely related to teh Senju.. Sasuke could have gotten Senju DNA from the 1st hokage just like Madara


No, they're not closely related, but for arguments sake, just say they are.. He still has no Uchiha DNA.
As for Sasuke, when would he have gotten Senju DNA? Because it sure as hell wasn't in the previous chapter when Hashirama gave him the jutsu.


They are distant blood relatives according to chapter 500 of Naruto.. so yes Naruto has Senju DNA.. im not trying to argue that hes gonna unlock the Rinnegan. my only problem was the fact that someone said that Naruto doesnt have any Senju DNA which he does according to the manga
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Very faint Senju DNA, yes.
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i just liked how interested Orochimaru was interested in the Poop Zetsu controlling the body of Obitio now with the sharingan and rinegan.
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I came across this , while watching the two recent episodes. I remember there were a few of you discussing this.
Uzumakis are known for their Red Hair trait. Nagato & Karin are Uzumaki, like Naruto (Mom's side).
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The Uzumaki’s and Senju are both descended from the son who inherited the “Body”. That has been said throughout the series, and only one jinchurki has ever survived having their tailed beast removed. Naruto’s Mom.
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You also need to consider Minato as well in Naruto's lineage as we simply don't know if Minato is related to the Senju somehow.

Regardless the only way I can see Naruto getting the Rinnegan is if he becomes the 10 tails jinchuriki effectively making him the next sage of the six paths.

Basically what I expect to happen is what JCorona said


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You see what's going to happen is this: The fourth Hokage is going to surrender his part of the fox to naruto. Saskue is going to use the jutsu that the first gave him.

But then Madara will just mop the floor with them again, unless Obitio does something in their favor before he dies. That's my best guest.


Naruto will get the other half of Kurama so IF he becomes the 10 tails jinchuriki it'll be a perfect version of it OR he'll have an even more powerful Kurama mode when he gets back the other half of Kurama.

Sasuke will use the what the 1st gave him to heal himself or someone like Jugo will swoop in and save him.
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