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Addressing each other: "He" and "She"
Posted 1/25/14
Wow this is actually a thing? Mind blown.
It is just she and he...
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Posted 1/25/14
Singular "they".

Screw all your English teachers, they were wrong.

"They" was a very common way to refer to a single person back in, say, the Elizabethan era (Shakespeare's time). I see no reason why it should be wrong now.

Or, we could always come up with a new word to please the grammar Nazis among us. Kinda like what the Swedish did.

I like the idea of having a gender-neutral pronoun. Not because of some pseudo-feminist reasons, but because it just makes things a lot easier when you really do not know if the person in question is male or female (or would like to be referred to as male or female). Clears up a lotta awkward misunderstandings.
Posted 1/25/14

asharka wrote:

But English genderism isn't even all that bad compared to other languages like, say, French or German where you have to learn the gender of an object.

This reminds me a bit about Norwegian.



A cat must be female, ok.
A dog must be male, ok.
A house must be a genderless object, ok.
A book can be male or female, but not a genderless object.

Who decided this would be a good idea? I demand to know.
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Posted 1/25/14 , edited 1/25/14

dankuuwut wrote:

This reminds me a bit about Norwegian.



A cat must be female, ok.
A dog must be male, ok.
A house must be a genderless object, ok.
A book can be male or female, but not a genderless object.

Who decided this would be a good idea? I demand to know.


Ya know at least in Spanish and Hebrew you are actually allowed to switch the gender on anything that's actually alive and legitimately has a phenotypical/genotypical gender (Seems odd to me that a male cat is still referred to by a female word in Norwegian)...plus everything else has a set gender. Nothing is neuter or genderless. (So there's some uniformity)

ie:

perro/perra (male/female dog)
חתול\חתולה (female\male dog)
vestido (dress (male))
מכונית (car (female))

Grammatical Gender generally sucks--I've heard that Japanese is better at this than English tbh. Only slang pronouns really have gender, but that inflection is actually flexible (ie: a gay man can use the more female atashi rather than the non-slang neuter watashi or the more male ore to refer to himself).
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Posted 1/25/14
Don't worry, this issue will be solved when people become so self-absorbed that they no longer have a need to refer to anyone.
Either that, or after technology allows morphing people's bodies into whatever they want to be, or after virtual reality becomes everyday reality and people use whatever avatar they wish.

That being said, I've used they/them etc. or else descriptions in situations where I didn't want to make assumptions or divulge information about a person online. Actually, I tend to use they/them a fair amount in general, perhaps out of laziness, even though I know it's considered incorrect by many.

However, I find the attempt by some to force others to change their use of the language to suit their preference a bit much. When it comes to adding or changing the meaning of words, I feel that should happen naturally, not be forced on people. If some guy wanted to be referred to as "she" or vice versa, I suppose I'd humor them, but I think I'd draw the line at fake words. At that point, it starts to seem as if the person in question feels they are special enough that the language should be changed to accommodate them. If I had to deal with such a person, I'd be tempted to refer to them with a dehumanizing "it". I've never run into such a situation though, so who knows what I'd actually do? Perhaps if you're in a place where everyone uses such words, it feels less absurd?
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Posted 1/25/14
If I don't know a person's gender I would put "you".

Just me though.

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Posted 1/25/14
There's always the singular 'they', and there are already some popular gender-neutral English pronouns in use by people who want them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-specific_and_gender-neutral_pronouns#Invented_pronouns).

However, I don't think gender specific pronouns will ever fall out of practice, simply because the majority of people do identify as male or female, and will therefore probably prefer to be referred to with pronouns that match that.
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Posted 1/25/14 , edited 1/25/14
To be honest i don't like the phrase "black man" i would be considered a "black" guy, I'm mixed a little. Don't get me wrong i love my heritage and my people, but I'm not "Black" why don't they refer to us as brown people? I only seen a few "black" people to be honest, most "black" people I see are brown. "Black" people are typically African, Jamaican, west Indian, haitian, and the natives or Australia for example. Wish we were called Brown people because that's what I am, and most "black" people I know.




This is a reply to koji8123 for some reason it didn't reply to him correctly
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Posted 1/25/14
I usually just refer to people as "individual"
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Posted 1/25/14
The only man deserving of a HE.



Everyone else is she, end of story.
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Posted 3/29/14
Closed because OP nuked.

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