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Well, I like both. They are in entirely different genres, though, so comparison is hard...

On the whole, while I like both, I like Log Horizon better. I also think that it's better written altogether, which is a different matter entirely. No matter how bad-@ the Black Swordsman can be, Shiroe is just... wow. While the Black Swordsman freed thousands of people from a death-game, that was because he knew from the beginning what his goal was, and how to accomplish it by strength. Shiroe had a much vaguer, much wider challenge: to make life bearable for thousands. Somehow, it was more enjoyable to watch the logistics and complexity behind the latter than watch Mr. Perfect plow through douchebags in the former.


Black Swordsman... You keep using that name, I don't think it means what you think it means.


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They aren't comparable.

Apples and oranges.

Apples suck balls.

No, apples taste better.
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Then there's the fact that SAO started off in a way that seemed like it was going to be amazing...and then it wasn't.
Log Horizon sort of eased into the plot and the world, which can be tedious, but I definitely think it worked. I definitely prefer the detail they put into the first two episodes instead of just jumping to saving Serara like how the manga started.

And now I really need to re-watch .Hack/Sign again. I liked it when it was on Midnight Run (was it really that long ago?), but was sort of frustrated that to get the full story you had to play the games. SAO and Log Horizon definitely get points for being pretty much self contained.


Its the opening episode debate.

When a shiw opens up with a serious episode, the audience obviously expect serious exploration of that opening theme. The tone is important in episode one, and deviation from a serious toe can be a problem when it doesn't deliver.

A show that opens with a more light hearted episode like Log Horizon des has more leeway. A fun show can easily become serious when the need arises, and isn't tied down by the serious tone during the comedy.

A serious show can't easily juggle light and hard themes, but will excel at proper exploration.

A light hearted show is able to switch into serious mode for an arc or two at leisure, but it can't as easily tell a serious story.

Compare Grave of the Fireflies to Summer Wars. Both are great movies, one hits harder and the other can be comedic without ruining its tone. This is the difference!

This is why SAO insults us when it failed to deliver, and why Log doesn't have to deliver that tone at all.
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LokiLB wrote:

Then there's the fact that SAO started off in a way that seemed like it was going to be amazing...and then it wasn't.
Log Horizon sort of eased into the plot and the world, which can be tedious, but I definitely think it worked. I definitely prefer the detail they put into the first two episodes instead of just jumping to saving Serara like how the manga started.

And now I really need to re-watch .Hack/Sign again. I liked it when it was on Midnight Run (was it really that long ago?), but was sort of frustrated that to get the full story you had to play the games. SAO and Log Horizon definitely get points for being pretty much self contained.


Its the opening episode debate.

When a shiw opens up with a serious episode, the audience obviously expect serious exploration of that opening theme. The tone is important in episode one, and deviation from a serious toe can be a problem when it doesn't deliver.

A show that opens with a more light hearted episode like Log Horizon des has more leeway. A fun show can easily become serious when the need arises, and isn't tied down by the serious tone during the comedy.

A serious show can't easily juggle light and hard themes, but will excel at proper exploration.

A light hearted show is able to switch into serious mode for an arc or two at leisure, but it can't as easily tell a serious story.

Compare Grave of the Fireflies to Summer Wars. Both are great movies, one hits harder and the other can be comedic without ruining its tone. This is the difference!

This is why SAO insults us when it failed to deliver, and why Log doesn't have to deliver that tone at all.


Dude, you can't just compare Grave of the Fireflies to another anime. That one is just straight depressing. Summer Wars definitely has sad points, but not compared to Grave of the Fireflies.

The problem isn't that they added comedy. A lot of my favorite shows mix comedy and seriousness, some of the point of utter-ridiculousness (FMA, Darker than Black). FMA has a scene that rivals Grave of the Fireflies for sheer tear jerking ability.

The problem with SAO is that they introduced this great world and premise and just didn't handle it well. It's not that it started serious and then became goofy or anything like that. It pretty much stayed serious. It's that it had a great first episode and then sort of failed to handle continuing from there in a satisfying way. The continual time skips were annoying. They had interesting characters that just barely get mentioned and didn't get much developement on screen (e.g., Kleine). It's like I was watching a longer anime but episodes were missing. You still get the gist of it, but something's missing.
And then of course you go to Alfheim and the non-sense with his cousin and plot lines that were never explored. I was all excited for a war between the different fairy groups...but nothing happened.
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I'm going to say I like SAO better, but Log Horizon is pretty good too. I'm probably the only person who likes the direction SAO has taken with season two.
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SAO for sure. Can't even compare log horizon to SAO. It truly shows how a gamer would want to live if we were stuck in a game like that.
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SAO for sure. Can't even compare log horizon to SAO. It truly shows how a gamer would want to live if we were stuck in a game like that.


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there are a suprising ammount of incompetent people and assholes in a prolonged life or death situation.
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SAO for sure. Can't even compare log horizon to SAO. It truly shows how a gamer would want to live if we were stuck in a game like that.


In a game with no meaningful rules and a setting with justifications that don't even exist, let alone make sense, sure.

SAO is pure teen power fantasy. It's somewhat enjoyable on that level, but it's as dumb as a pure teen power fantasy would be.

There are power fantasy elements to LH, but what a positive, praiseworthy power fantasy iti s.


Honestly though, I can't imagine how somebody could see either of the 'chuunibyo' shows and not be given the helpless giggles by SAO.
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Honestly though, I can't imagine how somebody could see either of the 'chuunibyo' shows and not be given the helpless giggles by SAO.


Lol That's awful.
So Kirito...the Dark Flame master.....Has a ring to it.
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I like both but SAO is my fav. It has a better feel with the tense environment and confusion of the players. In LH the characters seem to accept the situation too easily without even knowing why they are in the situation.
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Honestly though, I can't imagine how somebody could see either of the 'chuunibyo' shows and not be given the helpless giggles by SAO.


The show would be so much more interesting if Kirito was actually Chuunibyo. Spouting nonsense like "I am the black swordsman of the eternal abyss! Bow before my twin star dragon swords of destiny!"

I mean I always get a kick out of Marie's poems in Persona 4 the Golden.
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Cannot WAIT till new Log Horizon! Counting down the Days!
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Loved them both!

In all honesty, the lack of information in LH, I can barely see an issue there. Whereas SAO, the anime shows a few key parts, would've loved to see the entire Light Novel made into an anime, they skip too far, 5 or so episodes in, almost a year have passed... so on and so on,

Comparing the two is like comparing a microwave from a TV
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