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Bjaker 
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Posted 1/28/14
So, I just realized that about a week ago there was a big push to update to Adobe 12 (which is in beta)

If you are having issues with playback via PC right now, can you please tell me if you have Adobe 12 installed and whether or not rolling back to 11.9 resolves the issues you are encountering?

(Directions on how to roll back.)
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4487439


This will help me out tremendously.

Thanks,
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Posted 1/28/14 , edited 1/28/14
i never upgraded mine to 12 and I've still been having the worst stuttering problems this past month so much so that i stopped paying for the service till cr actually plans to do something or atleast implements something.
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Posted 1/28/14 , edited 1/28/14


You have version 12,0,0,41 installed
chrome browser ver 32.0.1700.76 m

decided to run through a few minutes in a few shows and include skipping ahead and backwards to test performance.

i have to say the results from today were quite suprising. it is 6:55 through 7:25 eastern standard time and all of the shows i've tested so far are not showing symptoms. i will have to try back later with the same exact shows below and see if it is the same. just the other day shows were practically unwatchable at anything but 480p. i think the real test will be on wed/thurs when naruto and my other favorited shows come out with brand new episodes. normally on launch day naurto is is unwatchable on anything but 480p anymore.

i'll have to remember to test that out .

test videos:
naruto 346: today its working at 1080p
wizard barristers 3 working at 1080p
magical warefare 2 working at 720p, was stuttering at 1080p then went away when i tried a second test
campione 13 working at 1080p
beezelbub 49 working at 1080p
blue exorcist 12 working at 720p (1080p not avail)
the unlimited 2 working at 1080p
demon king daimo working at 480p (hd not avail)

i did not try the 11.9 version since version 12 seems to be working flawlessly as of right this moment.

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did a test running internet explorer..

You have version 11,9,900,170 installed
ie ver 11.0.9600.16476

test videos:
naruto 346: working at 1080p
wizard barristers 3 working at 1080p
magical warefare 2 working at 1080p
campione 13 working at 1080p
beezelbub 49 working at 1080p
blue exorcist 12 working at 720p (1080p not avail)
the unlimited 2 working at 1080p
demon king daimo working at 480p (hd not avail)

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the only difference between the two that i noticed was that on one video when skipping ahead or back the video might repeat a second of sound/video (stutters) on 12 but did not on 11.9. it only did this right after skipping and only on one video of the test group so i think its a relatively minor issue and unrelated to the lag/stuttering issue most of us are having.

based on this test i do believe that the lag we are experiencing has nothing to do with 11.9 or 12 since the servers are playing fine for me at this exact moment. again, i will have to check back later. my guess is definitely that the issue lies with the cdn side or from server overload from new episodes on wed/thurs/fri.

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Posted 1/28/14

Bjaker wrote:

So, I just realized that about a week ago there was a big push to update to Adobe 12 (which is in beta)

For what it is worth, I am using 12.0.0.43 in Firefox, and the videos are operating normally.

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Posted 1/28/14 , edited 1/28/14

TheAncientOne wrote:


Bjaker wrote:

So, I just realized that about a week ago there was a big push to update to Adobe 12 (which is in beta)

For what it is worth, I am using 12.0.0.43 in Firefox, and the videos are operating normally.



I am using that version of flash in Firefox Aurora (28.0a2 (2014-01-28)) and have major streaming issues. I do not have streaming issues on other sites like Netflix or gray area sites.

Its weird this thread has 4 reply's and 0 views, how is that even possible?
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Posted 1/28/14

MegaManZXAdvent wrote:

Its weird this thread has 4 reply's and 0 views, how is that even possible?


Probably something akin to the Youtube view counter taking a while to show the actual number of view
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MegaManZXAdvent wrote:

I am using that version of flash in Firefox Aurora (28.0a2 (2014-01-28)) and have major streaming issues. I do not have streaming issues on other sites like Netflix or gray area sites.

Its weird this thread has 4 reply's and 0 views, how is that even possible?

It was showing 101 views when I checked it just before posting this reply.

I'm on version 26 (standard release) of Firefox, running under Windows 8.1 Professional.

Keep in mind that aside from their vastly greater resources (31.7 million paid subscribers in the US alone as of earlier this month), Netflix also uses Silverlight, not Flash for their web browser client (with some exceptions where they utilize HTML5 with a DRM component).

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Posted 1/28/14

TheAncientOne wrote:


MegaManZXAdvent wrote:

I am using that version of flash in Firefox Aurora (28.0a2 (2014-01-28)) and have major streaming issues. I do not have streaming issues on other sites like Netflix or gray area sites.

Its weird this thread has 4 reply's and 0 views, how is that even possible?

It was showing 101 views when I checked it just before posting this reply.

I'm on version 26 (standard release) of Firefox, running under Windows 8.1 Professional.

Keep in mind that aside from their vastly greater resources (31.7 million paid subscribers in the US alone as of earlier this month), Netflix also uses Silverlight, not Flash for their web browser client (with some exceptions where they utilize HTML5 with a DRM component).



Oh yeah you're right I totally forgot Netflix uses Silverlight, now if CR could use that too it might solve the whole issue entirely.
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Posted 1/28/14
that might not be such a good idea. silverlight has been known to have issues as well.

for instance it installs and plays perfectly fine one day but another day it doesnt even start up and says you dont have it but it is clearly installed.

on a different install with the same exact driver sets used it works perfectly.

on still a different computer (mine) it works perfectly fine without any issues at all.

so yeah... might not be such a good idea.
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Posted 1/28/14
Microsoft is planning on dropping Silverlight altogether in favor of HTML5. Netflix will be switching to something else soon.

It's great to hear that the browser player is (potentially) working better. Can we get other devices fixed too please?
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Posted 1/29/14 , edited 1/29/14
I know my recent issues with stuttering started well before Adobe 12 was pushed.
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Posted 1/29/14 , edited 1/29/14

DigitalDeviant wrote:

I know my recent issues with stuttering started well before Adobe 12 was pushed.


Exactly the streaming issue has been ongoing for several months now well before flash 12 was ever released.

Until I can stream a single episode without a single freeze up throughout it I will not be renewing my anime premium.


@TheAncientOne I now know where your Avatar is from, its the pervy mage in Zero no Tsukaima, CR only has season 4 so I'm forced to use gray area sites for it, in fact that is what I am using for all my anime now because of the issues with CR's streaming.
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Posted 1/29/14 , edited 1/29/14
I have too just recently been having problems with streaming today, horrible studding with Saint S. Omega and a few other animes.
Now I have not had a problem up till today, did something change at one of your servers? Or did you update your server OS? There's a new exploit going around for CentOS that creates a load on system performance.

If your running an outdated CentOS, update asap.

>>> >>> >>> >>> Edited here

Hey, you got it running good now! No more lag!
I was personally just going to blame my isp being shawgers " Shaw / Rogers "
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Posted 1/30/14

hhdropbaud wrote:

I have too just recently been having problems with streaming today, horrible studding with Saint S. Omega and a few other animes.
Now I have not had a problem up till today, did something change at one of your servers? Or did you update your server OS? There's a new exploit going around for CentOS that creates a load on system performance.

If your running an outdated CentOS, update asap.

>>> >>> >>> >>> Edited here

Hey, you got it running good now! No more lag!
I was personally just going to blame my isp being shawgers " Shaw / Rogers "


I don't think they've changed anything recently but the issues seem to be sporadic, intermittent and seem to affect some people worse and more often than others.

And it's a bit OT but CR doesn't run the CDN servers, just the front page. I'd bet the CDNs use that expensive subscription based upstream provider not CentOS, though the line between them is getting thinner I'm not aware of any recent issues with CentOS either, can you please elaborate?
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Well Digital, It seems that a few vps providers were behind on updates of CentOS and there was a way to overflow something into memory which would effect the database in a negative way causing massive load issues.
Probably some looping statement of infinity or turning them into bitcoin zombie miners, not totally sure, but it effect my friends Vps and caused a few servers and irc networks to have brief outages as the systems would crash, reboot, recrash, reboot, crash yet again.. and so on till the admins got to it, stopped the processes and cleaned the machines / and updated / patched the hole.

All in all probably an old hole for the 2 versions outdated Cent Os.


Btw, using 11.9. sorry for not saying it before.

Still having problems with streaming " Samurai Flamenco. Loads of Stuttering.
What did you guys do to the streams? Try'n to update the encoder to Flash 12? What Benefits will we see? Bandwidth reduction or overall load reduction off the cpu?
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