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Anyone thinks university is over-rated for getting a job? I think it is highly over-rated
Posted 1/31/14

Sornette wrote:

Ah! I'd have to add Law too. Depends on like you said, connections. Some schools are brilliant at attracting local companies to come over and appeal to high school kids, like a couple of law firms went to my little sister's school telling the kids to come work for them and promising to pay for their higher education. It's too bad my sister is determined to become a dentist so for someone like her, University is necessary.


Your sister is lucky in the sense that she knows what she wants to do, most people don't know what they want to do in life and often end up being in random jobs that are different to their degree.

I think she's made a good choice, dentists have better rep than lawyers do... everybody hates lawyers, but only little kids hate dentists.
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Over here in the UK, there aren't any jobs anyway. You hear of plenty of people getting A's and A*s in Uni, but they still can't get a job.


I also agree with this. They should really think about moving to other countries instead of wasting time.
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I didn't go myself I was in the army but I found that having having higher schooling is a plus that's why both my girls are in collage
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I also agree with this. They should really think about moving to other countries instead of wasting time.


That is actually what I did, I moved from the UK to Canada, the economic climate in the UK is awful , and its very difficult to find jobs, buy your own home etc.
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i totally disagree with you. First of all who wants to become a plumber. Community college only offer AA degree which is the lowest form of degree and a lot of people that goes to community college eventually transfer to a university. Everyone that goes to a university are well aware that it's costly. Second thing of all you said it's not worth going $100,000 into debts. People like lawyers, doctors, ph.d, and engineers make a lot of money so it eventually pays off. Also it just depends on what you major on. Lastly, there aren't too many options besides university except trade school. Huh if you don't go to a university what are you going to do for the rest of your life. Move around from crappy job to job. it's ok if you don't go to a university there will be less people to compete with. people like you don't have what it takes to go to a university. How many people you know makes more than 50 grand a year without college degree.
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I don't think college is overrated.

The main problem is that, due to what Western culture and school teaches people, we think a college degree guarantees us a well-paying job that will enable us to live in comfort. It doesn't. It offers a better chance at one, but there's still a whole economy to contend with in whether or not your chosen degree will get you a job in the field you studied. We live in a Bear economy right now, so it's rough to get a good job even with a college degree in a relevant field.

In a Bull economy it would be very helpful, but we're not in a Bull economy, and it doesn't look like it's going to turn around anytime soon. Population growth, resource depletion, y'know... all kinds of bad stuff. So currently yes, in the future... maybe not.
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The field of study is an important factor when determining the worth of a college degree. Math and science degrees have more value than degrees in ethnomusicology or women’s studies, and are far more likely to have more job opportunities. Also, many students should take vocational tracks earlier in their educational career, because the world will always need skilled plumbers and carpenters.
Posted 1/31/14
I pretty much disagree with the whole education system, but that's just me.

Posted 1/31/14
In a way, yes. These days, in the US, alot of companies and whatnot don't want to pay the higher salaries that people with higher degrees are supposed to earn, so "higher education" can be detrimental if we want to land a job or keep one. They turn away and lay off experienced workers for the same reason. My stepdad has been rejected and laid off countless times in favor of cheaper labor.
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Go to college and get a Professional degree.On average in the US,college grads command higher salaries.
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I don't think college should cost as much as it does. But a college degree is definitely not overrated, and neither is the college experience. Like it or not, you do have more opportunities with a degree than without one. Mechanics jobs actually do not pay much at all if you do not have proper training (an extensive vocational school or college) and/or many years of experience. My father was thinking about a job in mechanics when he graduated high school, but came to the realization that it would pay next to nothing for many years before it became a lucrative career. He ended up working in a warehouse instead of going to school, and absolutely hated it after a while, but he had no other options. This was back in the late '80s.

I, myself, am attending a 4-year university. Why? Because of the opportunities. Not only will my job prospects be better upon graduation, but going to a university gives a young person fresh out of high school so much to experience. I moved into the city after spending my entire life in the same suburban area. I rented my first apartment. I got much more involved in college than I ever did in high school, and my school has connected me to so many things - charity events, volunteer work, internships. I haven't even been here for a year, but I am positive this has been one of the best choices of my life.

Full disclosure, my school gave me a full scholarship. I had a 3.0 GPA in high school and did very few extracirriculars (none of which were impressive things like SGA or debate team) - I was by no means a stand-out student. It is a small public school, not a fancy private institution or one of the big state schools. I picked my school carefully. Originally, I looked into a few private schools, but decided that the $30,000/year price tag was not worth it.

If you go into college expecting everything to be handed to you on a silver platter, then yes, you are wasting your money and your time. You have to look for opportunities outside of class. The great thing about colleges is that they have extensive programs to help put you on track for your career. Internships, entry-level jobs, help with resumes, recommendations - you have to take advantage of all of that. If what I described sounds like it wouldn't be your thing, then go to a community college or vocational school. Try your best there. My mother only earned an associate's degree because she had a job lined up for her - she went out and looked for that opportunity. You have to do that, too. Life isn't easy.

Just, please, don't stop at high school. Go get some other education. Unless you want to be working 12 hours a day at a job you hate for a good portion of your life, or you have an excellent entrepreneurial idea that is guaranteed not to fail (this is non-existent, by the way). I've heard way too many people say that stopping at high school was the worst decision of their life. Don't do that to yourself.
Posted 1/31/14

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i totally disagree with you. First of all who wants to become a plumber. Community college only offer AA degree which is the lowest form of degree and a lot of people that goes to community college eventually transfer to a university. Everyone that goes to a university are well aware that it's costly. Second thing of all you said it's not worth going $100,000 into debts. People like lawyers, doctors, ph.d, and engineers make a lot of money so it eventually pays off. Also it just depends on what you major on. Lastly, there aren't too many options besides university except trade school. Huh if you don't go to a university what are you going to do for the rest of your life. Move around from crappy job to job. it's ok if you don't go to a university there will be less people to compete with. people like you don't have what it takes to go to a university. How many people you know makes more than 50 grand a year without college degree.


Your comment about plumbing was stupid. There are people out there who want to get into that and guess what? Plumbing is something that is VERY much needed, and gets paid well because come on - doesn't everyone use a bloody toilet? And don't accidents happen?

Don't look down on people who do those sort of jobs. Without them, you'd be stuck. Even the most simple of jobs needs to have someone doing them, otherwise it causes problems for others. Everyone has a purpose, and almost every job helps someone in some way.

Don't be so rude and snooty.
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CN13lue wrote:

i totally disagree with you. First of all who wants to become a plumber. Community college only offer AA degree which is the lowest form of degree and a lot of people that goes to community college eventually transfer to a university. Everyone that goes to a university are well aware that it's costly. Second thing of all you said it's not worth going $100,000 into debts. People like lawyers, doctors, ph.d, and engineers make a lot of money so it eventually pays off. Also it just depends on what you major on. Lastly, there aren't too many options besides university except trade school. Huh if you don't go to a university what are you going to do for the rest of your life. Move around from crappy job to job. it's ok if you don't go to a university there will be less people to compete with. people like you don't have what it takes to go to a university. How many people you know makes more than 50 grand a year without college degree.


Your comment about plumbing was stupid. There are people out there who want to get into that and guess what? Plumbing is something that is VERY much needed, and gets paid well because come on - doesn't everyone use a bloody toilet? And don't accidents happen?

Don't look down on people who do those sort of jobs. Without them, you'd be stuck. Even the most simple of jobs needs to have someone doing them, otherwise it causes problems for others. Everyone has a purpose, and almost every job helps someone in some way.

Don't be so rude and snooty.



Thank you for that. That's just like asking "why would you want to be a garabage man?" Seriously there isn't anything wrong with having a job like that as long as it pays the bills and put food on the table.

Just my opinion.
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you mean you don't need to graduate from a expensive college/university.
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Overrated. My sister earns $44000 per annum in child care and she's turning 20 this year. She did not even complete Year 12. She went onto other education for Certificate III in Child Care. So yeah... Overrated.
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