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Anyone thinks university is over-rated for getting a job? I think it is highly over-rated
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idk but i definitely think going to a 4-year or prestigious school is overrated... tech school does just fine imo. Wish I had gone that route.
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Personally, I really like collge a lot. So much so that I'm staying an extra semester to pick up a few extra credits that will help me with my graduate school applications. However, I have very clear direction with my future career goals. I never changed my major and don't regret much, aside from a few classes I should have taken sooner. I'm looking forward to grad school and in fact if it were a real job I would be a perpetual student.
However, if we are talking money, then yeah. For a whole lot of people college is not worth crippling debt. I'm one of the lucky few who isn't facing a wall of loans a long with slim job prospects. Unfortunately, more and more jobs require a four-year degrees. So really it's a catch-22 situation.

My advice for high school students considering college is, one year isn't going to kill you so go for it and take classes that pertain to a wide range of subjects. You never know if you might walk out of psychology 101 suddenly wanting to be a therapist when you had previously thought you wanted to be a music major. It happens all the time. Or go to community college for a semester or two, it's much cheaper and will give you an idea if college is for you. The social aspect won't be the same, but it's still a worth-while endevour.
Also for those of you who are on a college path--- it is never too early to think about grad school, or whatever you plan to do once you graduate.
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

Over here in the UK, there aren't any jobs anyway. You hear of plenty of people getting A's and A*s in Uni, but they still can't get a job. It's also possible to be overqualified. Besides, grades alone aren't enough anyway. There's way more to coming across as a good candidate than having good grades.


Well, if they're claiming to get A's in uni no wonder they have no job.

The thing is that the majority of people who go to university do a course that employers dont care about, trying to get a general job then a science/engineering/maths degree will get you 20 times further than a humanities, english, psychology etc degree. About 50% of the UK population goes to uni now and it isnt to do STEM subjects, which is why people come out with a First in some useless degree then cant get a job with it, because employers look at it and go 'well its a first, but its a first i dont give a damn about'.
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Do go to college if you want a degree in...

Medicine, Engineering, Chemistry, Physics, Law, etc.

Do not go to college if you want to be undecided for 2 years and then choose...

English, History, Communications, Pan African Studies, Woman Rights, etc. just because that is the easiest and quickest route.
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A personal pay off for going to University for me, was during my four years: I met and asked questions of a US Supreme Court Justice, met a Noble Prize Winner in Physics in an informal setting, had tea with a Nobel Peace Laureate. Those things would not happened for me if I hadn't gone to University, they are wonderful memories. From those happenings I networked and made other memories.
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I graduated in 2013 from high school and now i'm making double minimum wage. I don't have student loan debts either. Just went right into the work force. I'd say i'm doin alright
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Call me a crazy cynic but if you are truly looking for life advice this is probably not the place to find it. Everyone's life and situation is unique and what you will get here is a lot of generalizations, some trying to be helpful, others almost entirely full of [email protected] Talk to the people who you respect that know you and love you. The fact that you care about your future is a good start.
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Too be fair. while the arts don't lend themselves directly to finding a well paying job, they shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. As other people have mentioned University isn't just about getting a job. And there ARE benefits to your mental a social resources from a liberal arts degree. Just not ones easily placed on a balance sheet.
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:

Too be fair. while the arts don't lend themselves directly to finding a well paying job, they shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. As other people have mentioned University isn't just about getting a job. And there ARE benefits to your mental a social resources from a liberal arts degree. Just not ones easily placed on a balance sheet.



Does everyone who doesn't take Liberal Arts look awkwardly at the major along with the people that take? --------
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Ok, whatever it may be, going to university is not bad, unless you don't have some plan to afford it, your dream is something more of an arts career, or you're okay with what you're doing. Going to college is important, not just for the degree, but for your mind, the most important investment. I've met all kinds of people and all the knowledge has shaped me for the better.

Connections are certainly important and so is charisma. But if you don't have any knowledge of that specific field and you can't walk your talk, or have a way to learn it, you're done. That's what uni is for. You need all three.

Oh and I HATE HATE HATE HATE when people say not to do English or art or history. If that's someone's dream, they should be made aware of the risks and encouraged to be pursue their dream job.
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qualeshia3 wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:

Too be fair. while the arts don't lend themselves directly to finding a well paying job, they shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. As other people have mentioned University isn't just about getting a job. And there ARE benefits to your mental a social resources from a liberal arts degree. Just not ones easily placed on a balance sheet.



Does everyone who doesn't take Liberal Arts look awkwardly at the major along with the people that take? --------


Some people say "Friends don't let friends take arts" I think such folk are acting like elitist dickheads and at the risk of invoking Godwin. Nazi enablers in the making.

A technical diploma doesn't necessarily prepare you to deconstruct arguments or interpret political screeds. Granted there are ALSO arts majors who have no concept of the real world but...


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papagolfwhiskey wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:

Too be fair. while the arts don't lend themselves directly to finding a well paying job, they shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. As other people have mentioned University isn't just about getting a job. And there ARE benefits to your mental a social resources from a liberal arts degree. Just not ones easily placed on a balance sheet.



Does everyone who doesn't take Liberal Arts look awkwardly at the major along with the people that take? --------


Some people say "Friends don't let friends take arts" I think such folk are acting like elitist dickheads and at the risk of invoking Godwin. Nazi enablers in the making.

A technical diploma doesn't necessarily prepare you to deconstruct arguments or interpret political screeds. Granted there are ALSO arts majors who have no concept of the real world but...




I want become a journalist(actually novelist) and that is the only thing I feel is better for me.
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Indeed. Over rated.

Don't have a University diploma, went for a trimester, found it useless. Always had good jobs that pay really well, and I only have my HS diploma.

And no, they do not imply anything 18+.

Always loved my jobs.
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Well in Scotland university is free so it's worth a try anyway. At least it will give me a higher chance of earning good money for my family.
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I'm personally of the mindset that you go to a good university to "learn how to think" and "learn how to learn". The skills you pick up from a quality education teach you to problem solve, communicate, make an argument, and use logic.

I am $25,000 in debt, have a Bachelor of Arts degree in Psychology, and don't regret it one bit. Did I find a career job immediately after school ended? No. Did I learn skills that make me far more marketable in this economy and able to communicate with prospective employers? Absolutely.

By all means, if you are going to go become a car mechanic or hairdresser... go to a trade school. Trade schools teach valuable skills as well and are directly targeted at a specific field. If you are more like me, however, go get the general education. I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life right out of high school, and now I have a lot of options. I just need a few more years of work experience to get to where I want to be.
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