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Really depends on the context. I usually can't stand it. Shows like Yozakura Quartet are ruined because the animators can't satisfy their hard-ons unless there was an upskirt 5 minutes.

Of course, there are instances where fanservice is portrayed artistically or used to advance the story. Great examples would be the Monogatari Series and Kill La Kill.
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Two things I love the most (well three things but the misuse of the term fanservice has been covered)

One. How people think this is something new. There has been eechi fanservice in anime since the 1960s

Two. All these shows weren't made with western standards in mind and what many be eechi to us might not be eechi to them. Pantie shots in Japan aren't very eechi but showin Cleavage is considered very eechi.

just remember these show weren't made for the west and I for one am very glad for that
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KingKaio wrote:

I truly believe that the bulk of American anime fans consistently fail to realize that the makers of anime do not design their sexually oriented materials for Americans, but for JAPANESE AUDIENCES because they're in Japan (!!!!)
What passes for hot & sexy in Japan can be the same for a lot of things- obviously or else anime wouldn't be so appealing to American youth in the first place. But certain other things- which I don't need to describe because it's the type of stuff that American anime fans always complain about- those things appeal to a fetishistic taste that is unfamiliar to us, and can be repulsive. That's why it depends. The "fan service" that is called tasteful is usually the type that appeals to us so therefore it doesn't interfere with the plot in (y)our eyes. Whereas some things are so out there that they seem jarring and out of place. I learned this and it helped me be a bit more understanding of WHY certain things are so prevalent- but can't say I necessarily like it in any case. Too much fan service of any kind cheapens a concept.
Personally, I prefer if shows about scanty clad females be less serious... if you're going to dress and act like a slut, don't lecture me about military service and protecting society- because it doesn't fit. This means that serious shows where people are more professional looking- I tend to expect to maintain their professionalism and do not welcome unwanted sexual jokes. I figure this standard crosses most cultural boundaries so I don't get worked up about a lot of stuff that people do, if it's in a show about- say- female wrestling.




I don't think you really get it. First of all just to get this out of the way. Lots of other people other than Americans would find this stuff weird. Secondly, this stuff isn't considered normal for Japan either. Otakus make up 1% of the population. And they aren't looked at very fondly. Most people EVERYWHERE don't consider this stuff normal, even the people of Japan. There have been laws passed against anime and manga because of suggestive themes such as lolis, incest, rape, etc. Even if it was okay there, it isn't right just to say "It's normal there, so its okay here too," because not many people would consider that a valid argument for watching a substitute for porn.


I'm still wondering how sword art online got past the FCC and got on Toonami because it has rape and incest in it. Given that it doesn't happen til arc 2 it still baffles me how nobody noticed
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No, I get it, really I do. To claim that most people "everywhere" would think something strange is extremely ethnocentric- it takes the American attitude and projects it onto the rest of the world. The rest of the world is not America bud...
I also don't know about this 1% Otakus thing... otaku makes no difference, because if I'm talking about crotch shots, for example (I wasn't directly), that sort of thing doesn't just happen in anime. And Female wrestling has been a somewhat fetishized 'sport' in Japan since before either of us were born- again with or without anime being in the mix- this is still true. I don't have any statements about anything being "okay" or "normal" in my post there- whether any of us wants to admit it, there ARE local preferences in terms of sexual attractive actions, fashion, as well as slightly different understandings of what gender amounts to. The words "okay" and "normal" have cultural connotations- what is okay or normal can vary from one to the other, and from person to person.
I do not support nor condemn the treatments of certain gender or age groups within anime from Japan either way, I think we should all be smart enough to realize that icky things exist in any kind of media from anywhere so I just avoid what I don't want to see- but that doesn't mean one should be unaware of its existence. Japan has a very conservative government right now which is trying to legislate against comics and anime on some things it considers degenerate- but i'll leave it to the Japanese to have the debate about what type of material should be shown on TV.


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I'm still wondering how sword art online got past the FCC and got on Toonami because it has rape and incest in it. Given that it doesn't happen til arc 2 it still baffles me how nobody noticed


Huh? What scenes in SAO are you referring to exactly? There's implications of rape, yes, but nothing graphic is shown. Molestation, however, does happen to Asuna by Sugou, aka Fairy King Oberon, and those two slug scientists. I agree those scenes make me very uncomfortable and probably should have been animated in a less creepy way if not expunged completely. As for incest, again, none actually occurred. Kirito's sister is
and she never has any kind of sexual relationship with him; incest involves sexual intercourse between people who are very closely related. I agree Suguha's desire for a romantic relationship with Kirito does give a creepy vibe that incest may occur, but it never happens. It "got past the FCC" because there's no actual rape or incest in the show whatsoever. Not to mention Adult Swim's in-house shows have more suggestive content that gets by the FCC all the time.
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meowth900 wrote:
I'm still wondering how sword art online got past the FCC and got on Toonami because it has rape and incest in it. Given that it doesn't happen til arc 2 it still baffles me how nobody noticed


Huh? What scenes in SAO are you referring to exactly? There's implications of rape, yes, but nothing graphic is shown. Molestation, however, does happen to Asuna by Sugou, aka Fairy King Oberon, and those two slug scientists. I agree those scenes make me very uncomfortable and probably should have been animated in a less creepy way if not expunged completely. As for incest, again, none actually occurred. Kirito's sister is
and she never has any kind of sexual relationship with him; incest involves sexual intercourse between people who are very closely related. I agree Suguha's desire for a romantic relationship with Kirito does give a creepy vibe that incest may occur, but it never happens. It "got past the FCC" because there's no actual rape or incest in the show whatsoever. Not to mention Adult Swim's in-house shows have more suggestive content that gets by the FCC all the time.


Guess so. Plus it is an Anipilex anime. Toonami's just banking off Ani and Funimation animes at this point. They also have Shippuden but it's so far behind
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I dislike not having Internet all the time.

but... fanservice is nice
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I find it amusing more than anything else. I also find it amusing how far broadcasters will go to cover it up (Recently My Sister is Unusual - I'm looking in your direction).
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Quarlo wrote:

I find it amusing more than anything else. I also find it amusing how far broadcasters will go to cover it up (Recently My Sister is Unusual - I'm looking in your direction).


I heard that anime is in political troubles lol
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I truly hate fan service but what you going to do about right? . I watch the first two episodes of high school of the dead and the fan service in that turn me away from it . But there are times where I am glad when there is less fan service when I watch anime like AKB0048 now that one didn't have much which I was really happy .
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Posted 2/5/14 , edited 2/5/14
I love it. I can deal with a crappy story if it has a lot of pretty naked girls. Fanservice does have a time and place though. A panty shot during a serious emotional scene would ruin it for me.

Alternativly, I get annoyed when a scene calls for fanservice but it is not delivered. Case and point: Oniai. We have a fair amount of scenes with nudity, ranging from a psychotic big chested redhead to DFC. Yet during the bath scenes 80% of the scene will have soap covering just the nipples (apparently those are the dirty parts) only to be followed by uncensored nudity. Sometimes we'd get both in the SAME FREAKING SCENE (It's been edited to make it SFW)


I firmly believe there should be no middle ground. Either show the nudity all the time or censor it all the time. If a show doesn't use sex as a plot imo there is no reason to include a bath scene.

Pool / beach scenes however are A OK in any show =D


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I'm still wondering how sword art online got past the FCC and got on Toonami because it has rape and incest in it. Given that it doesn't happen til arc 2 it still baffles me how nobody noticed


Nothing in that show violates any FCC rules or regulations. It was not explicit. Having sensitive subject matter doesn't mean anything.
Posted 2/5/14
It's okay as long as it doesn't go over the top. (I'm looking at you Ikki Tousen and Eiken D:<)
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Posted 2/5/14
I don't really have an issue... but it is pretty distracting at times...
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Posted 2/6/14
I seriously HATE IT!!!!!!!
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Posted 2/6/14
Fanservice (ecchi) is a plague in anime these days. 'Nuff said.
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