Do you think music should be judged by just how it sounds or that the artist matters, as well?
Posted 2/3/14
I've noticed that when it comes to certain artists that people show large amounts of hatred to their work only due to the fact that they dislike the artist as a person.
I feel that it's fine to dislike an artist, however it's a bit immature to hate their work because of who they are and not because of lyrics, voice, instrumentals, etc.
Posted 2/3/14
Hm.. at least this is a topic that really interests me.

Id have to say, music shouldnt really be about the artist, more about the message its trying to get across (if there is one) so.. say.. Lil Wayne (only using him cause.. hes well known i guess) suddenly makes a song about.. idk... children being forced into wars and whatnot seeing how the song would be about something that actually matters, or something thats actually going on id probably like the song, its getting the message across "hey, theres shit other then the mainstream going on" and if there isnt a message... then id say since im in love with music if it has a good beat ill probably end up liking the song regardless.

uhhhh did that answer suffice? i kinda.. lose track of what im talking about sometimes and ramble.
Posted 2/3/14
The beat is incredibly important. That is why I hate hipster newfags who blow garage rock bands out of proportion when it consist of children who beats furiously and off-beat on all the junk they can find in the garage. I can produce the same quality of music by rolling down a huge pile of junk at the junkyard. Their lyrics are also often so dopey that they don't make any sense what so ever.

Lyrics are important, but not to the same extent as the beat. I wouldn't go as far as to call the lyrics the soul of the song, but it does create an image for the song, like a story, or interpretation of an emotion. Without it, I will have less interest in the song, and forget it. Only if it's attached to scenery--like scenes from Battlestar Galactica--will I remember them, because I remember the impact that the scenery and the song combined had on my emotions. Prelude To War, Passacaglia, Battlestar Sonatica, Baltar's Dream... and tell me you can't remember ((( ət'æk 0N tάɪtn ))) and ((( 巨♀〜9地区 ))) from Shingeki No Kyojin... those are just examples. They have no lyrics, but they had such emotional impact that they can't simply be forgotten.

I couldn't care less about who the artist is, but I will remember them for their music (e.g. Bear McCreary) if their music is worth remembering. I don't snoop in their private life, or rumors surrounding them.
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Posted 2/4/14 , edited 2/4/14
The lyrics and sound are all that matters because that's what makes up the music. Atleast that's my opinion, I mean take Norwegian Black Metal band Burzum for example, the man behind it is basically nazi. He has burned down churches in his youth and stabbed a man to death (in self defense supposedly). But hot damn his music, most of it has lyrics based off of fantasy worlds that you'd see in an RPG game, not to mention the sound ranges from Punk Rock to metal and if you're into either you'd probably dig it.

He's made pretty instrumental tracks that could coo you too sleep as well lol
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Posted 2/4/14
The artist matters only because i tend to like songs that are sung with personality, but as long as the artist can put personality into their songs and the song is good I don't care about what they've done. If Miley Cyrus were to make a really good song I wouldn't care that she swung naked to a Wrecking Ball I'd still listen to it anyway. Though what's the chance of Miley actually making a good song?
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Posted 2/4/14
Someone can be a fantastic artist and have a terrible personality. Personally, I can admit that a song sounds nice when I don't care for the artist, but I'll still refuse to contribute to that artist by buying their music or going to a concert because I do not like what they stand for as a person.

For the record, I'm not talking about trivial flaws like drug addiction or a bit of lewd behavior. I'm talking about people who are genuinely assholes. People like this:


Japanman911 wrote:

The lyrics and sound are all that matters because that's what makes up the music. Atleast that's my opinion, I mean take Norwegian Black Metal band Burzum for example, the man behind it is basically nazi. He has burned down churches in his youth and stabbed a man to death (in self defense supposedly). But hot damn his music, most of it has lyrics based off of fantasy worlds that you'd see in an RPG game, not to mention the sound ranges from Punk Rock to metal and if you're into either you'd probably dig it.


I would never, ever support an artist like that. I don't care how good their music is.
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Posted 2/4/14
music is music I don't give a damn who sings in as long as it sounds good and its my grenre ( which changes with my mood)
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Posted 2/4/14

Aokidanza wrote:

Someone can be a fantastic artist and have a terrible personality. Personally, I can admit that a song sounds nice when I don't care for the artist, but I'll still refuse to contribute to that artist by buying their music or going to a concert because I do not like what they stand for as a person.

For the record, I'm not talking about trivial flaws like drug addiction or a bit of lewd behavior. I'm talking about people who are genuinely assholes. People like this:


Japanman911 wrote:

The lyrics and sound are all that matters because that's what makes up the music. Atleast that's my opinion, I mean take Norwegian Black Metal band Burzum for example, the man behind it is basically nazi. He has burned down churches in his youth and stabbed a man to death (in self defense supposedly). But hot damn his music, most of it has lyrics based off of fantasy worlds that you'd see in an RPG game, not to mention the sound ranges from Punk Rock to metal and if you're into either you'd probably dig it.


I would never, ever support an artist like that. I don't care how good their music is.


Never said anything about supporting them, besides your basing that off of what I said. Do some research you may think differently and you can get his music without supporting him if you are so worried about it lol
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Posted 2/4/14

Japanman911 wrote:

Never said anything about supporting them, besides your basing that off of what I said. Do some research you may think differently and you can get his music without supporting him if you are so worried about it lol


Did not mean to target you, sir or madam. The way that man was described just struck me. (And I don't like pirating, but that's a different argument altogether. )
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Posted 2/4/14

Aokidanza wrote:


Japanman911 wrote:

Never said anything about supporting them, besides your basing that off of what I said. Do some research you may think differently and you can get his music without supporting him if you are so worried about it lol


Did not mean to target you, sir or madam. The way that man was described just struck me. (And I don't like pirating, but that's a different argument altogether. )


It's all good no worries haha it's understandable, I mean wether they are peaceful or not people who believe in something similar to nazism are sketchy lol
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Posted 2/4/14 , edited 2/4/14
i judge music on the message. i don't like much pop because it's all about partying and relationships (i don't care if taylor swift is upset because her boyfriend dumped her). the message from a punk band such as rise against is deeply political, or addressing a problem with society, which i can relate to much more.
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Posted 2/10/14
To put it simply, as long as the song serves its purpose, then its a good song. For example, a good rap song would be (in my opinion) a song with deeper, more meaningful lyrics then just the usual mainstream (money, women, cars, gangs, drugs, etc). A good techno or song in my opinion would be a song that sets a certain mood, a good metal song is one with skilled guitar riffs, perfect drums, etc...you get the pattern. The only time I judge a song based on the artist before I listen to it is when i am listening to mainstream rap, which unfortunately consists of the same lyrics
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Posted 2/10/14
Eugh, I still don't know about this.
A few years ago, I found out a singer I liked had a falling out with a frequent duet partner because he was a jerk, and I didn't know whether I should dislike him for being insensitive and egotistic, because hell, I still liked his voice. He had the voice of an angel.

So I think it strays into a gray area. It depends on what the artist has done, who they are. If they're just kind of a jerk, I'll grudgingly admit that I still like their music, but if they've done some serious offense, I don't want to have anything to do with them, even if their work is like dining on fresh oysters.
Even if Hitler was a great artist (which he wasn't, he was sort of mediocre-lyl good), you still wouldn't put his art on display in museums right? I think sometimes you have to judge the art with the person, and sometimes it's okay to let it go.
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