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Seriously is it so difficult to make real food nowadays?
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Posted 2/7/14
I don't care about having cancer, nor do I care about food being fake or bad. I work and go to school, so I don't have all day to prepare myself my own food. Hell, I don't even quite care for my own health.
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Does anyone know what is wrong with this chemical? They say it is used in the production of shoes and mats, but that means nothing. Water is used in a lot of industrial production, so should we next force them to bake bread without water? I don't really see what the big deal is if the chemical is safe.
All kinds of problems come from this chemical. One thing it does cause cancer, respiratory issues and a list of other things. This chemical is useless and unnecessary for making bread. Why is it banned everywhere else except US and Canada? Why can you get jailed for 15yrs and fined about 500k for having this chemical? So its a big deal especially when a company promotes their food as healthy. And come on when you think about it, this product or w/e is used for shoes and mats etc. If you want to continue eating their food or any restaurant (those who use this) after hearing that, does it motivate you to keep dining there?
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PatrickAupperleUtexas wrote:


Does anyone know what is wrong with this chemical? They say it is used in the production of shoes and mats, but that means nothing. Water is used in a lot of industrial production, so should we next force them to bake bread without water? I don't really see what the big deal is if the chemical is safe.
All kinds of problems come from this chemical. One thing it does cause cancer, respiratory issues and a list of other things. This chemical is useless and unnecessary for making bread. Why is it banned everywhere else except US and Canada? Why can you get jailed for 15yrs and fined about 500k for having this chemical? So its a big deal especially when a company promotes their food as healthy. And come on when you think about it, this product or w/e is used for shoes and mats etc. If you want to continue eating their food or any restaurant (those who use this) after hearing that, does it motivate you to keep dining there?


These health effects seem dubious at best. The FDA allows it only to levels up to 45 ppm, and that almost assuredly isn't enough to cause any problems. Almost all safety risks seem to be associated with production of Azodicarbonamide, rather than consumption in food.

If it were useless, it wouldn't be used. From your link, it is used as "a bleaching agent and dough conditioner which allows them to produce bread faster and cheaper."

It is probably banned everywhere because lawmakers are not scientists. If the public is scared of something, it gets banned regardless of whether is dangerous or not.

Water is also used in production of shoes and mats, but that doesn't make it bad. Merely being used for production of shoes means absolutely nothing about a chemical.

Overall, I would prefer not to have it in my food, but it isn't a big deal. I won't eat at subway any less while they are working to remove it, and I won't start eating there more after they remove it. I am sure we deal with much more dangerous stuff everyday of our lives just by breathing the air around us. Honestly, banning smoking would be much more reasonable than banning this chemical.
Posted 2/8/14
Peanut butter and jelly sandwich makes me so hungry.
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Well, they're going to remove the chemical from the bread now. That was fast.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/02/05/subway-fast-food-chemicals-in-food/5236537/
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aint nobody got time fo dat.No realy sometimes i come home from work 1 am and i just cba to do anythin other then sleep.
Posted 2/8/14
Sometimes it's nice not having to make your own sandwich...subway sucks though, honestly. I like Quiznos. :B
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This is one of the reasons why I don't eat white bread or use bleached flour.....the chemicals. Companies cut corners like that to try to squeeze out every penny of profit.

If you are very vigilant you can eat cheaply at home, but it takes more work and effort. Also, I don't know about you guys, but I hate to have to think about what I need to make or buy for eating at the supermarket everyday. Some days I just want to crash and not even look at a kitchen...specially since there's cleaning up the mess after cooking. Sometimes I go on a cooking streak and make a bucket of kimchi or something crazy like make my own tofu, but after doing that, I get sick of cooking for a few days.

Anyway, since I have food intolerances and health issues, I make almost everything from scratch. I spend about $150 a month on groceries per person. We don't eat anything from a cow (no butter, cheese, beef, etc.). I wonder how much everyone else spends on groceries......
Posted 2/9/14
If you can digest it, it's real food. If you can't digest it, it's not real food. If you're going to add redundant terms like 'real' to describe how- or what you think others should eat then people are not going to listen to you, and with good reason.
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If you want "real" food, then get off your lazy ass and make it. If you rely on restaurant food, specifically fast food, you have no room to complain. It's take it or leave it.

Houses and apartments come with these things called "Kitchens" in which you can prepare food. Within the kitchen you can find "drawers", "cupboards" and "refrigerators" for storing foods and spices that can often be used in "cooking". You can learn about this subject here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking
Posted 2/9/14

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If you can digest it, it's real food. If you can't digest it, it's not real food. If you're going to add redundant terms like 'real' to describe how- or what you think others should eat then people are not going to listen to you, and with good reason.


A lot of people digest things that aren't food. Like your slutty girlfriend for example.
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The only thing I stay away from is aspartame. I get paranoid about brain tumours.
Posted 2/9/14

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dankuuwut wrote:

If you can digest it, it's real food. If you can't digest it, it's not real food. If you're going to add redundant terms like 'real' to describe how- or what you think others should eat then people are not going to listen to you, and with good reason.


A lot of people digest things that aren't food. Like your slutty girlfriend for example. :D


A bucket of sperm is food even though you might think it's disgusting. The same goes for your vaginal lubricant, and eggs. In fact, as humans, we're made of roughly 75% food, 45% of which we could eat ourselves. Just because you think it's 'this' and 'that' doesn't mean that it's not food, to someone, or something. Saying that it's not real food implies that the food does not exist in this dimension, when what you want to say is that some food can't be eaten, which is not correct either because the term food literally means "any nourishing substance that is eaten or otherwise taken into the body to sustain life" in the first place. It's a dumb way of saying that it's a type of food that has a high chance of deteriorating your health if eaten in large quantities, when that is exactly what all types of food would do, even fruits and vegetables. Yes, if you only eat apples every day, then you will die much sooner than if you ate a variety of substances. And the type of food that this thread is implying is bad for you, is the type of food that in itself is a substance that contains the variety you need to sustain life for a long period of time. It's basically trying to say that eating a variety of substances is bad, when that is exactly what we all know is good for you.
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BearSol wrote:

If you want "real" food, then get off your lazy ass and make it. If you rely on restaurant food, specifically fast food, you have no room to complain. It's take it or leave it.

Houses and apartments come with these things called "Kitchens" in which you can prepare food. Within the kitchen you can find "drawers", "cupboards" and "refrigerators" for storing foods and spices that can often be used in "cooking". You can learn about this subject here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking


Exactly. I believe "If you want something done right, do it yourself" applies here.
Growing up in a rural area my family had home cooked meals almost all the time, seeing how a lot of people rely on restaurants is a bit confusing to me. You save so much money cooking yourself, and you can actually research the nutrition content of the food. And as far as time constraints go, there's still plenty of home cooked food that's super quick, I eat tons of veggie stir fries and they take like 20 minutes and that's with rinsing and cutting things.
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