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Nice guy vs Jerk?
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ah that must be why I'm attracted to psycho/sociopaths
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" they give up and become jerks" thats where i sit
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supre_candii wrote:

ah that must be why I'm attracted to psycho/sociopaths


Gotta love us yanderes.
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Look guys forget about being nice. Be a jerk if you want the ladies. Tell them they are ugly so they'll never leave you because they feel they aren't attractive enough and are you a great catch because they are so ugly. Tell them they are worthless, tell them they are fat, tell them how stupid they are daily. Keep their self esteem low and they will serve you well in life. Let them get too high and mighty and these B's will think they too good for you.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDTShULLR44

Good song for this thread.
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I'd say there's no such thing as nice guy or jerks since everybody has a different opinion.
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What I want you to do is go to google and search for return of kings. You'll find your answer there.

There is no point in being nice, and "gentlemanly" that was thrown out the window when feminism became mainstream and women wanted to be equal to men. Now treat them like crap and they'll see how great it is to be "equal." Good luck on your red pill journey.
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Posted 2/9/14 , edited 2/9/14
Maybe

Nice guy = boring guy
Jerk = Bad Boy = Fun

I think the 'real' nice guy ('fake' nice guy is actually the self pity guy) is probably an introvert
While the bad boy is an extrovert.

Maybe extroverts are attracted to extroverts and since they make up a majority of our population, it probably just shows up that way, that women like jerks.



While the alpha male thing I think is more for a leader of a group, like get your guy friends (the more the merrier) and lead them around, then you probably get alpha male status.
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Seriously, this whole jerk vs. nice guy thing is a bunch of bullshit. Guys who can't get a date because they lack something always blame the other guys for being jerks. Let me give it to you guys straight: if you're not attractive (that's physical looks), not confident, not well groomed and awkward around women, you're chances are low. Real jerks are generally ignored by women.

You want more attention from the female population? Here's a tip: look up some men's fashion that is popular in your area for your age group or within the social crowd you want to be noticed in. Get a haircut (like the $30 type, not the $10 at Supercuts). Get some good clothes that fit you well, forget about the bargain bins at Wal-Mart. Make some friends with people you normally don't hang out with (this helps with your confidence and ability to talk to people naturally). Find a hobby that involves people, sports teams and bands are most preferable, but other interests are also ok, as long as it doesn't involve you being isolated most of the time. Do something out of the ordinary - recite Shakespeare in the middle of the lunch quad, pull a school prank, Gangnam Style at a pep rally, get into a fight, show up to school/work in Cosplay, whatever, even if you fail or lose as long as it gets you noticed. Have a good attitude, smile often and don't let things bother you too much.

If you don't think you can do any of that, or feel that you're too "unique" to have to resort to those things, then, sorry, just take your chances, keep complaining about how the jerks always get the girls. Oh, and as a side note, women make their own choices, I find it a bit disrespectful to assume that "women choose jerks," like there is something wrong with their decision making. It's like if some girl made a post asking "Why do men always choose dumb blonds?"
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I would totally take a nice loyal guy over a jerk! Jerk = cheating and lying and not real fun! Plus, even nice boys have their rebellious fun side, you just have to find it!

:edit: Thank you to guy above me politely mentioning that WOMEN MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES ;D <3
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I do believe this post pretty much hits the nail on the head. Fully agree.





Must be nice up on that pedestal, eh? This comes across to me as an elitist type of attitude that basically says "Just change yourself into what I (general use not specific) am and you'll be fine". Sorry but I'd rather be how I am rather than become some prep or jock or whatever you're implying guys should become. Shallow traits like confidence, attractiveness, etc only go so far and are just that shallow. What should matter are deeper traits like being there for the person. Not every one is hardwired to be sociable, nor should they be expected to be to be deemed datable. So far speaking from experience, females do indeed pick the jerks then end up whining about how they got hurt to the 'nice guys'. Its not disrespectful because no one is saying they're forced into it but that they choose it (though admittedly there are exceptions like with everything).
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Who are those "nice guys/good guys" and "bad boys/jerks" of which you speak? I've yet to meet a guy who I can honestly say fits the stereotype of either. I've always been under the impression that such things only truly apply in fiction, since actual people are multi-faceted. I'd rather die a spinster than deal with either a guy who honestly views himself as one or the other, or a guy who manages to be one-dimensional. Being unabashedly strange, it's not like I mix well with most people, anyway. Maybe I should become the crazy cat lady who lives down the lane from some poor kid? Then again, I'm allergic. Damn. Mutant plants?
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IICHAOSII wrote:

What do you guys think about the nice and jerk. Being the jerk always gets the girl, however being nice gets you the girl sometimes but with a lot of more work. I personally can not be a jerk if I actually like the girl but if i just want something else i can.


Jerks do not always get girls. Be very careful, you sound like an "entitled nice guy". Hint: if you have to go around stating that you are a "nice guy" odds are you actually aren't a nice guy.
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aeb0717 wrote:

Who are those "nice guys/good guys" and "bad boys/jerks" of which you speak? I've yet to meet a guy who I can honestly say fits the stereotype of either. I've always been under the impression that such things only truly apply in fiction, since actual people are multi-faceted. I'd rather die a spinster than deal with either a guy who honestly views himself as one or the other, or a guy who manages to be one-dimensional. Being unabashedly strange, it's not like I mix well with most people, anyway. Maybe I should become the crazy cat lady who lives down the lane from some poor kid? Then again, I'm allergic. Damn. Mutant plants?


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Are you for real right now? antx0r hit it right on the dot.

You just need to think logically to realize where you're wrong. Think about this for a second; what type of friends do you have? Why are you their friends? Generally, you'll become friends with people you find fun to be around. In other words, you have similar interests, you enjoy doing things with this person, you're not friends just to 'be there for them' and sit around and only whine to them about your problems.

The same concept applies for girls; they want to date someone they find funny, attractive, someone who's comfortable in their own skin, etc.. Someone who's 'desirable' by their set of traits. Funnily enough, for some reason the only time I even see guys separated into either 'nice' or 'jerk' is when a circlejerk thread of people who's love life is going terribly (like this one) appears and they spew complete garbage onto it. Essentially what these 'nice guys' are, so to speak, are people who are desperate and are hiding behind a wall of self-pity and self-righteousness. The refusal to better yourself as a person to 'preserve who you are' annoys me to no end. If you're hanging out with that 10/10 girl and she friendzones you because you're awkward, have no confidence, are boring, and are 'there for her', that doesn't make other guys a jerk, you're just an selfish, entitled loser who expects the world to fall on his lap. In terms of your 'shallow traits', you act like once you're confident and attractive, you can't have any other traits like being kind, generous, etc... Like what? Do you not understand that people are multifaceted? Confidence and attractiveness get your foot into the door and that's it. If you approach a girl and you're awkward or haven't taken a shower, they won't wanna talk to you because THEY feel awkward now. It just seems to me that you're looking for excuses and people like you are the type of people I just can't stand.

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