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Posted 2/18/14
Do you Pirate any form of entertainment be it movies, games, music?

Only Anime or Manga I can't purchase easily, as in i have to hunt it down or for some reason costs way too much. I'm looking at you Gundam Unicorn blu rays, seriously $65 or $70 for an hour long Ep.

Edit: I'd be lying if I said I didn't pirate some music

Do you think it's wrong to pirate entertainment?

Of course, but it is what it is and it will always happen....

Do you think your government should invest more time into stopping this?

Nope, they should focus on something that actually helps the people of said country over the couple of already really wealthy companies that just want more money.
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Posted 2/18/14
Yes, Yes, and No.

:I I just can't afford to enjoy entertainment right now and pay for everything. I don't got any funds, I'm still living off my parents. I do try and buy books whenever I can, but I just don't have enough money for everything. But I don't want to let myself get left behind either. Entertainment is a pretty big part of my life.

But no, the government shouldn't interfere. At least not here. Whenever they try, it focuses more on saving the major companies money than protecting the rights of the creators. It wouldn't really solve any problems - it would just push us to more drastic pirating measures, and throw some people in jail for silly reasons. What needs to happen is entertainment and consumers need to meet halfway. The hand of the market moves without the government. And Netflix is doing a pretty great job of that. Crunchyroll too.
Posted 2/18/14
1). I used to, but not anymore. Not games, though. Probably because I didn't actually "download' pirated stuff as much as I streamed it. I never really trusted options to download pirated stuff since i had a history of getting viruses just from streaming pirated stuff.

2). I do think its wrong. That's a part of why I stopped. But I also realize that not everyone inherently knows what they're doing. Depending on one's intent and naivete, I think it can be anywhere on the spectrum of "wrong" to "faux pas." I think when I pirated stuff it was pretty wrong because a part of me knew it was odd that I was watching this stuff for free, but I shrugged it off at first...

3).Tough question... I really don't feel comfortable making any sort of claims as to what the government should be doing. I'm not that knowledgeable in the field of politics. I do, however, think that the companies being pirated should have the right to act on this as swiftly and effectively as they are legally able. If the government can make that task easier for them without sticking their nose too deeply in the affair, then i'm all for it. But as I said, i'm not too knowledgeable in the politics of the situation and make no claims as to what should be done about it.
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Posted 2/18/14
1: Yes, but if it's something I'll watch more than once, I'll buy it.

2: It varies. If someone only pirates on a try-before-you-buy basis, or because they cannot afford to pay, Then It's not so bad.

3: The majority of people who pirate are the sorts of people who wouldn't or couldn't buy it any way. Cracking down on piracy wouldn't really affect sales enough to warrant the cost involved. Some indie game developers actually accept piracy of their own work, since it gets people to play their games.
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Posted 2/18/14
I hold the stance that pirating something you have legal access to, and storing it while you still have legal access, is not morally wrong (although I do understand that it is illegal). I don't feel bad pirating the latest episode of a seasonal show here on Crunchyroll at times when they become unwatchable due to CR's slow servers. There are times when I can't get more than 15 seconds watching per 5 minutes waiting (and this is over a gigabit internet connection). I occasionally slip away from the video over to some other site and download the episode in less than 5 minutes (in full 1080p) and watch it, then delete it. Doing this provides me with nothing I haven't paid for, so I don't feel bad about it.
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Posted 2/18/14
Its not really that serious, considering that whoever makes the movies/games/etc, is still gonna get a fuck-ton of money anyway. Like Game of Thrones.
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Posted 2/18/14

maghan wrote:

Its not really that serious, considering that whoever makes the movies/games/etc, is still gonna get a fuck-ton of money anyway. Like Game of Thrones.


The producer or whatever suggested piracy was a compliment, then backtracked and said he was absolutely against it.

George Martin said he felt it was a compliment, and partially because of screening delays, a massive chunk of the piracy for Game of Thrones was in Australia because at first we got it a good six months after the US - six months!

Which is something they addressed in season 3, airing it on the same day as the US

This is a quote from Jeff Bewkes, CEO of HBO

“Our experience is that it [free word of mouth advertising via pirated downloads] leads to more paying subs. I think you’re right that Game of Thrones is the most pirated show in the world. That’s better than an Emmy,”
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Posted 2/18/14
I pay for what i want so no i do not Pirat anything.
I do not think the government should do more against it tho there certainly are more pressing matters they should take care of than helping rich company's get richer.
That said i have no understanding for people who Pirat stuff tho its stealing and in this case its stealing from me.
Everyone who pays for his entertainment helps funding the next projects so without us customers there would be nothing to Pirat
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Posted 2/19/14 , edited 2/19/14
No I do not Pirate, while I do think pirating is wrong I sympathize with the people who do it because of region locking.

I almost pirate the intro theme song to Log Horizon because it is not available on I tunes in the US but is available on I tunes Japan, but won't let me pay for the song due to region lock. I am just glad I found the CD on Amazon, but Pirating would have been the only option if I hadn't found the CD. Region Lock creates a lot of piracy when it says you can't buy game Games, Music or Movies because of the region you live in, even if the product is legal in your country and may never come to your country or never does.

The Government and the Companies are never going to stop it completely, and are already doing a lot to go after the people who do pirate products.
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Posted 2/20/14
Yeah. I pirate all the time. I could care less what they think, because they are still racking in huge amounts of profit.
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Posted 2/20/14

DesuMaiden wrote:

Yeah. I pirate all the time. I could care less what they think, because they are still racking in huge amounts of profit.


Actually you are wrong about that. I know from talking to some musicians that have had hits that have made it into the top 40, but their band wasn't a top tier band, that they made almost no money. I spent some time working with someone who was in the band the Pietasters when they had a hit song, and he said in 10 years of touring and music, the band may have netted a total of 100k. that's 100k spread out over all band members for 10 years. That pretty much amounts to not making anything. Friends of mine were talking to the wife of the band leader for a band that is mostly regional, but has had some national success and she said that he has never made money in the band and her job supports him being in the band and pays all the bills.

Only the few entertainers that make it really big make a lot of money. The rest often just bring in enough to survive. Many bands end up owing their record labels money to pay back all the money that was spent to record and promote their album.

I don't pirate content, and I do believe it is wrong and hurts content creators.

I'm fine with the government having anti-piracy laws, but I don't think they can effectively enforce them. The best way to stop piracy is to provide easy and affordable ways to access content legally. Why pirate anime when it is so easy to watch it legally on CR, HULU, etc..? Why pirate music when a cheap monthly subscription gets you access to all the music you can listen to? Studies have shown that when content is provided online, in a legal, easy to use format, that piracy of that content goes way down.



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Posted 2/20/14 , edited 2/20/14

Itachi4Life794 wrote:

Im not gonna lie I've downloaded a lot of animes but when a blu ray copy is available I'll buy it and delete the download copy


A lot of people say they do this kind of thing but most don't. They might buy their favorites but they don't completely support the industry in that way. Just buying a few does not support the industry or the shows you watch.

Honestly CR makes watching anime so much better. Without them I wouldn't be able to support the industry because I can't afford to go out and buy blu rays for every show I watch.

I only stream non-licensed stuff from non-legit sites after searching for it on sites like CR. I won't watch licensed animes unless they are on sites that got the rights to do so. I never torrent stuff.

Music I buy if I want a song or I use pandora.

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You know Anime only made its way into the via piracy. And no Akira alone did not bring Anime into America awesome movie though. Furthermore the part of industry that is complaining are mainly Fandub companies. After all don't they dub shows "beyblades, and pokemon" that obviously cater to kids around 7-13 years old. Ya think those companies expect them kids to buy the DVDs, do you think they even know how to pirate shows. These company's even stream their shows free and even on youtube sometimes. Now what they do rely on are those kids buying beyblades or pokemon cards etc.

Another thing if you really still believe that piracy hurts any product oriented industry your just believing a lie told to you by some guys in suits who are rich and still want your money. Particularly, in the music industry main bands and artists actually profit from piracy the people who don't are those rich guys. The reason why it works is because it allows artists/bands to crowd source advertise meant. Here's an example Facebook didn't get advertised like myspace instead it was YOUR friends or someone not in a TV or being paid whom told you about it.
Here some links:
http://torrentfreak.com/why-most-artists-profit-from-piracy/
https://torrentfreak.com/internet-piracy-boosts-anime-sales-study-concludes-110203/
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/new-study-says-online-piracy-isn%E2%80%99t-hurting-entertainment-industry-220006729.html

To the subject of fansubs what MephiteBlue hints at is right. Part of the reason industry is "declining"(its not the big company's are) is probably the rise in sites where you can stream anime online for with for a small fee like Crunchyroll, Niconico, and Funimation's own site. This actually hurts the big corporations that produce and buy the licensees of anime. In fact neither sites like Crunchyroll or piracy hurts the people whom actually make the anime or manga because they sign onto a contract beforehand where they get paid for like a super duper small fraction of total profit. In fact I'm very sure that voice actors barely make enough to survive. If anything big companies like Aniplex or Funimation are just middle men whom can get cut out.

At anyrate there has always been more evidence to support piracy as a good thing.And often big name professors of brush these findings as "rare events." The only reason why is because politicians are just people whom get bought and tell you what 3rd parties (often companies, I wonder why) want you to believe, its all hyped up.

~pick the right side bub ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
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Posted 3/13/14

Hebi_God wrote:

I wanted to know your thoughts on music/movie/game piracy so i decided to make this thread.
Now let me ask you some questions.
Do you Pirate any form of entertainment be it movies, games, music?
Do you think it's wrong to pirate entertainment?
Do you think your government should invest more time into stopping this?
Let me know your answers.


should the government invest more time into it. Yes they should but the cost would be too much for very little effect.
If it is liicensed i won't watch an unlicensed version but if it is not licensed and impossible to get then yes I'll watch a fansub (anime only). Movies are always possible to get so i generally rent them instead of buying but never pirate.

Pirating is stealing...plain and simple. Just because so many people do it don't mean it is right.
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Posted 3/13/14
1. I pirate anime and sometimes movies. 99% Anime. The only time i dont pirate anime is if its on CR. Most BluRays are over priced (SAO). I also like to watch a show before i buy it. Why would i want to buy a dvd or bluray if i wont even like the show. Same way with movies. If i enjoy the anime or movie, i will go out of my way and support the company by buying DVD/BR. I also torrent off one site.

2. Yes and No.

3.Waste of time and waste of money to try stopping it, when they could spend that money else where.
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