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Your personal opinions on cliches in forms of entertainment.
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Let me know if a thread like this exist or not.
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Whether in novels, video games, movies, comic books, manga, anime, music, and etc, cliches are everywhere and people are getting tired of it. People constantly ask "where is the originality?", "why are there so many cliches?", and "I tired of all these cliches". I have to ask myself "is anyone thinking hard enough to come up with an original idea?" or "what can one consider originality when it seems like every idea have been thought of before?" That is something I've been curious about as I try to come up with my own original idea for a story. I think and it's like this plot have been use so many times. I don't wanna write a story that comes out "trying too hard". Most of these people write plots that they can please themselves until others start enjoying it now it's time to please everyone else instead. I always though original ideas were cliches given a twist. I'm not sure how hard I can try to come up with my own ideas when I can't help but wonder if this idea happen before. Some people are highly good at doing that and there are some who just aren't good at it. What can you do? It's not easy for certain people truth be told. People can't help but enjoy cliches because cliches are more popular than anything deem "original". You say "people are running out of good ideas" while I'll simply say "I think it's harder trying to think of a good idea." Unless you can prove me wrong then be my guest. I've noticed some of the people of this site have good ideas, some aren't so good but they tried, and others are too arrogant that I ignore them. So, explain your opinion in great detail about opinions and originality in entertainment.

List some form of entertainment as an example of an cliche idea and original one.


Bonus Question:

1. Will there EVER be a borderline between originality AND cliche?

I've express my personal opinion and now I want to hear your own.
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cliche is easy to do and market it has a built in fan base originality is hard and takes effort and risky as it it has no fan base. Lets face it most writers today are lazy. Why think up something new when you can slap together some quick blockbuster and toss it to a hungry fan base
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So true. That is all I can say, besides I totally agree.
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uncletim wrote:

cliche is easy to do and market it has a built in fan base originality is hard and takes effort and risky as it it has no fan base. Lets face it most writers today are lazy. Why think up something new when you can slap together some quick blockbuster and toss it to a hungry fan base



Yes, it does take effort toward thinking about it. How do you personally feel about?
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I think originality comes from the heart. By that I mean when the creator(s) puts all of his(their) own thoughts, feelings, and emotions into the things he creates, or writes. That is why I think the school setting can be used time and time again. The school setting may just be a guideline, but their own feelings they put into their work is what truly makes the work shine as an original. Just like if the setting was completely different and never used before, if the creator(s) doesn't put any heart and emotions into the work he does, then the setting may be original, but I doubt the work would be very original, or even entertaining.

When people complain about things like the school setting or other cliches, I think they're just nitpicking. But the heart is what makes shows count as an original to me.
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spinningtoehold0 wrote:

I think originality comes from the heart. By that I mean when the creator(s) puts all of his(their) own thoughts, feelings, and emotions into the things he creates, or writes. That is why I think the school setting can be used time and time again. The school setting may just be a guideline, but their own feelings they put into their work is what truly makes the work shine as an original. Just like if the setting was completely different and never used before, if the creator(s) doesn't put any heart and emotions into the work he does, then the setting may be original, but I doubt the work would be very original, or even entertaining.

When people complain about things like the school setting or other cliches, I think they're just nitpicking. But the heart is what makes shows count as an original to me.



That is understandable. I really don't use my heart when constantly feel the need to use with my head all the time. Not many people can do that even if they try.
Posted 2/14/14
I don't think there's such things as originality. I think theres general ideas that people manipulate to their touch and call their own 'unique' plot. And I don't really care if it's cliche or original, as long as it's amusing then it's fine. For example, animes tend to have lolitas, tsunderes, princes etc. However the creators all change them to fit their plots so they aren't cliche or original. Sort of in the middle? I don't know, but I don't mind.
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There is nothing new under the sun.

As long as clichés are used creatively, I don't mind them.
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Genbu89 wrote:

There is nothing new under the sun.

As long as clichés are used creatively, I don't mind them.



Indeed. It's just a tad bit annoying to hear to say "where is the originality?" and I just wonder "exactly what can we consider original?" I've been curious for some time.
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spinningtoehold0 wrote:

I think originality comes from the heart. By that I mean when the creator(s) puts all of his(their) own thoughts, feelings, and emotions into the things he creates, or writes. That is why I think the school setting can be used time and time again. The school setting may just be a guideline, but their own feelings they put into their work is what truly makes the work shine as an original. Just like if the setting was completely different and never used before, if the creator(s) doesn't put any heart and emotions into the work he does, then the setting may be original, but I doubt the work would be very original, or even entertaining.

When people complain about things like the school setting or other cliches, I think they're just nitpicking. But the heart is what makes shows count as an original to me.


The school setting is used so much in anime it hurts.

It's like if anime only has three settings
1. School
2. Post-Apocalyptic
3. Home town

I think One Piece and Fairy tail do much of the exploring, Dragon Ball too and let's not forget Gurren Lagaan. (Hunter X Hunter, ect.)

There are probably more anime with more original settings, but it is these settings which add to the story and creativity overall, imo.



Reshuffled MCs don't help either, the whole indecisive and dense main male character is overused.
The over cowardly main character who looses his s**t when things don't go according to plan.
The MCs who are useless.

Same theme over and over, "Conquering all evil with the power of friendship" it's a very "All for one and one for all" idea. Then again it might be a Japanese cultural difference.

I'd like to see more selfish Main Characters in original locations, I feel "Mondaiji (problem children are coming from another world)" does it well, not adding too many cliches.

I believe if creators would just have a good balance of cliches then it doesn't come out so generic or cheesy.
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Asides from the cliche dense main-character(bad part really isn't how dense they are, but most of them are just annoying overall), I don't mind cliches at all. If anything I really enjoy them as long as the amount of them per Anime is limited.
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Use 'em, don't abuse 'em.
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the way i view it , there's nothing done that hasn't been done before in some form or fashion.

I believe that originality is when you take a cliche and make it interesting. Take Attack on Titan, for example. What media hasn't done hundreds, even thousands, of scenarios where the world is at doom for one reason or another? Apocalypses are "in". Yet Isayama made it a little creative. He took a cliched and often cheesy idea and mashed it around until it was molded into something not new, but into a different shape.

Cliches are cliches because they work. If they weren't good ideas to begin with, they wouldn't have become cliches! ^^ People tire of it because these "good ideas" are played again and again.

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I remember that episode.
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