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What can I say?

Not every show is for everyone so I must say I guess this just isn't for you but this is one of the best episodes of one of the best seasons of one of the best anime series ever made from one of the best light novel series ever written so... I really don't know what to say if it didn't catch your fancy. There is so much to it both artistically, story and character-wise which you have missed.
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iblessall wrote:


What can I say?

Not every show is for everyone so I must say I guess this just isn't for you but this is one of the best episodes of one of the best seasons of one of the best anime series ever made from one of the best light novel series ever written so... I really don't know what to say if it didn't catch your fancy. There is so much to it both artistically, story and character-wise which you have missed.

Full disclosure: I was kind of just watching it on a whim and wasn't really mentally engaged.

Don't worry! The whole Monogatari series is in my backlog. I'm not such a fool that I would ignore all the people whose opinions I respect (yours included) who say these shows are incredible.

First episode just didn't grab me, for whatever reason, but I haven't given up on the show.

My fault for not making that more clear.
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...First episode just didn't grab me, for whatever reason, but I haven't given up on the show.

My fault for not making that more clear.
A different way of watching I suppose but if a show's first episode doesn't grab me then I generally never get back to it. I watch so many shows each season, start out watching 40+ and usually whittle it down to a good 25-30, that shows which don't grab my interest are generally gone. I don't force myself to watch any of these shows. There are so many good simulcasts, old shows I haven't finished, shows I love to rewatch that shows that don't grab me right away or that I lose interest in are generally gone for good. It takes a lot for me to come back to a show like that and finish it. I think that has only happened once recently... for Kitakubu of all shows!
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iblessall wrote:
...First episode just didn't grab me, for whatever reason, but I haven't given up on the show.

My fault for not making that more clear.
A different way of watching I suppose but if a show's first episode doesn't grab me then I generally never get back to it. I watch so many shows each season, start out watching 40+ and usually whittle it down to a good 25-30, that shows which don't grab my interest are generally gone. I don't force myself to watch any of these shows. There are so many good simulcasts, old shows I haven't finished, shows I love to rewatch that shows that don't grab me right away or that I lose interest in are generally gone for good. It takes a lot for me to come back to a show like that and finish it. I think that has only happened once recently... for Kitakubu of all shows!

Well, like I said, sometimes I just wasn't mentally engaged and I kind of knew it. I had no clue what to expect, so I wasn't really in the right mindset for watching Bake. I probably should have been watching something with more fluff.

Generally, I don't go back to a show if I didn't like the first episode, but I also like to remember how some shows I really like took an episode or two to really get going.

And again, there are a lot of people who have highly recommended the entire franchise to me, so I figure I should at least give it three episodes.
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watch it in release order
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hpulley wrote:Then watch the start of summary 3 from Monogatari as it details what happens in those 3 episodes, but stop before the part about the Fire Sisters... at 4:10
4 minutes to cover 3 OVAs, almost a movie's length. And the summary itself was spectacularly unsatisfying; it left out all the romance and a "softer" side of Senjougahara that you don't see anywhere else. And yet, I still can't justify spending the $150 it would take to get the set. It's like torture...

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hpulley wrote:Then watch the start of summary 3 from Monogatari as it details what happens in those 3 episodes, but stop before the part about the Fire Sisters... at 4:10
4 minutes to cover 3 OVAs, almost a movie's length. And the summary itself was spectacularly unsatisfying; it left out all the romance and a "softer" side of Senjougahara that you don't see anywhere else. And yet, I still can't justify spending the $150 it would take to get the set. It's like torture...

You're right, 4 minutes for 3 episodes doesn't do it justice but at least it doesn't leave a gaping hole like before...

I broke down and bought the import Bakemonogatari Boxed Set because I wanted to see it legally. I was very strict with myself at that time... But you know what... there is something to be said for buying something and seeing it for the first time on Bluray! At the time Bakemonogatari was (still is?) 480i only on Crunchyroll so seeing the series at 1080p was incredible.

I did the same with Nekomonogatari Black! I bought it and watched it cold! I mean I had the novels already so the contents weren't a surprise and they're fore/back shadowed in Bakemonogatari anyways but... seeing something in high quality import Bluray for the first time.. magic! Pure magic!

Did the same with Kokoro Connect Michi Random which still isn't available legally for streaming anywhere... again, had the novels and loved the first 13 episodes so it isn't like it was a total surprise.

Biggest cold buy for me was the Hal (Haru) movie last year which is super awesomely amazing! If anyone likes SF Shoujo I absolutely 100% recommend it! Funimation bought it, hopefully they release it for home video soon, maybe even stream it for a month like they did with Akira. It deserves to be seen.
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hpulley wrote: the Hal (Haru) movie last year which is super awesomely amazing! If anyone likes SF Shoujo I absolutely 100% recommend it! Funimation bought it, hopefully they release it for home video soon, maybe even stream it for a month like they did with Akira. It deserves to be seen.
Definitely agree on this. I stumbled across it not too long ago, and it is wonderful, a must-see. Won't say any more than that though.
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What can I say?



u know, i was so bored with bake with the first few episodes, so boring i almost dropped it. but i hung in there...thank god i did. it gets better
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hpulley wrote: the Hal (Haru) movie last year which is super awesomely amazing! If anyone likes SF Shoujo I absolutely 100% recommend it! Funimation bought it, hopefully they release it for home video soon, maybe even stream it for a month like they did with Akira. It deserves to be seen.
Definitely agree on this. I stumbled across it not too long ago, and it is wonderful, a must-see. Won't say any more than that though.


Agrreed, no spoilers before you watch Hal!
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Posted 2/16/14 , edited 2/16/14

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What are you doing with your life? Without Monogatari, there is no purpose in living.

What can I say?

[...] I was bored. Nothing else happened that really made me want to continue watching.

You're bored by Bakemonogatari, I'm bored by Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.

I think this means we must duel to the death with rubber flyswatters at the time of the next solar eclipse.

(I'm also a bit of an AMV freak, but Monogatari has inspired some of the best I've ever seen.)


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I broke down and bought the import Bakemonogatari Boxed Set because I wanted to see it legally. I was very strict with myself at that time... But you know what... there is something to be said for buying something and seeing it for the first time on Bluray! At the time Bakemonogatari was (still is?) 480i only on Crunchyroll so seeing the series at 1080p was incredible.

It's also by Shaft, so you're not actually seeing the finished product until you see it on Blu-ray.
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Even after re-watching these (I first watched this series in the order of Bake > Nise > Neko > 2nd), I still don't see much of a difference between watching Nekomonogatari first or Bakemonogatari first. If anything, you're still left in the dark without Kizu about quite a few background details.
You can't go wrong either way is what I'm trying to say I suppose because as I said, it didn't affect my viewing since I started with the same order redcookie suggests.


I think the main reason why starting with bakemonogari is best is obvious: Senjougahara. Her character and arc is so interesting it made me want to watch the rest. I don't think Hanekawa has that same effect. Not that she's a bad character, she's just not Senjougahara.
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hpulley wrote:

I broke down and bought the import Bakemonogatari Boxed Set because I wanted to see it legally. I was very strict with myself at that time... But you know what... there is something to be said for buying something and seeing it for the first time on Bluray! At the time Bakemonogatari was (still is?) 480i only on Crunchyroll so seeing the series at 1080p was incredible.

It's also by Shaft, so you're not actually seeing the finished product until you see it on Blu-ray.
Indeed, another reason but this is in fact true of most shows. They fix up a lot for the Blurays. Some episodes are almost unrecognizable.

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Rito2Ru wrote:

Even after re-watching these (I first watched this series in the order of Bake > Nise > Neko > 2nd), I still don't see much of a difference between watching Nekomonogatari first or Bakemonogatari first. If anything, you're still left in the dark without Kizu about quite a few background details.
You can't go wrong either way is what I'm trying to say I suppose because as I said, it didn't affect my viewing since I started with the same order redcookie suggests.


I think the main reason why starting with bakemonogari is best is obvious: Senjougahara. Her character and arc is so interesting it made me want to watch the rest. I don't think Hanekawa has that same effect. Not that she's a bad character, she's just not Senjougahara.
I really like Hanekawa. I think partly because we see a TON more of her than any other character. I think she just might be Nisioisin's favorite though that is just a guess. She can never be with him but she gets a lot more page/screen time than any other heroines. She is in Kizu, both Neko's obviously, and even though at that point she is essentially saved she doesn't drop out of the books at that point like some of the others.

Senjougahara, as much as I like her is hardly in the series at all. She's in Bakemonogatari, Koimonogatari obviously, some in Nisemonogatari but she is completely missing and hardly mentioned in many of the books and arcs. We shall see some more of her but honestly we see more of Hanekawa it seems.
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hpulley wrote:I really like Hanekawa. I think partly because we see a TON more of her than any other character...()... She can never be with him but she gets a lot more page/screen time than any other heroines. She is in Kizu, both Neko's obviously, and even though at that point she is essentially saved she doesn't drop out of the books at that point like some of the others.
She can't be in everything, she only can be in what she can.
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hpulley wrote:I really like Hanekawa. I think partly because we see a TON more of her than any other character...()... She can never be with him but she gets a lot more page/screen time than any other heroines. She is in Kizu, both Neko's obviously, and even though at that point she is essentially saved she doesn't drop out of the books at that point like some of the others.
She can't be in everything, she only can be in what she can.
I love that Nisioisin worked her line into Koimonogatari, that was great! I won't spoil if we'll get to hear it again but I will say we have not seen the last of her...
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