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Anime with annoying teenagers as main cast needs to stop.
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Since everything is about teenagers kicking ass or having love troubles its getting boring...

Why cant we have Adults for once

i cant even remember a good anime where adults are the main cast...

Why are all the anime based up on annoying flat chested teenagers with their stupid problems!!!!


And yes Hatsune Miku is annoying to!

heck i even like grandma's and grandpa's kicking ass just stop it with them stupid teenagers -.-
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Maybe its because their much easier to develop and relate too
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I think you picked the wrong hobby, my friend.

Anime is a product. It's like soda, cars, and phones. It's mass produced to appease the greatest amount of people and realize the largest profit on the smallest margin to create wealth for a small group of executives. It's not art. It's a product. Every product has a formula that is exploited until it doesn't work, and so does Anime.

Anime sells well as it is. The current formula works on each new generation of viewers. The target audience is mostly young people. I remember when I was 14-24. I didn't want my parents world anywhere near me. I wanted to relate to people of my own age. And, for the most part, I think that's what Anime is gear toward. Quite frankly, it does a good job at it.

There are good adult driven shows. One that comes to mind is Yakushiji Ryoko No Kaiki Jikenbo.(Ryoko's Case File). I would say the main characters are in their late 20's. Ryoko is smart, brave, and strategic. The male lead is a bit of a wuss, but steps it up when needed. It's nothing amazing. Small show, narrow plot, but for the most part, the adults aren't dopes.

Mind you, most cultures have a serious hang-up with people over the age of 30. Thirty is the line of demarcation where society begins to slowly "hide" you. Worship Of Youth. Anime reflects that. It's a constant in nearly every cultures because the worship of youth is a constant in every culture. Old is ugly and stumbling. Youth is beautiful and sharp.

You'll have to dig, but you can find some great adults characters in shows. Most "adults" in anime, that aren't baboons, are between the ages of 24-29. Some older characters, 65-80, are treated with respect as well ("elders"). Anything in between, and the show writers are lampooning "parents" which is what kids do.
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klote2314 wrote:

Since everything is about teenagers kicking ass or having love troubles its getting boring...

Why cant we have Adults for once

i cant even remember a good anime where adults are the main cast...

Why are all the anime based up on annoying flat chested teenagers with their stupid problems!!!!


And yes Hatsune Miku is annoying to!

heck i even like grandma's and grandpa's kicking ass just stop it with them stupid teenagers -.-


You could try watching older anime, maybe from the 80's or 90's. A lot of popular anime back then had college-age adult characters (Captain Tylor, Dirty Pair, Ninja Scroll, City Hunter, Cowboy Bebop, Master Keaton, Dominion Tank Police, Patlabor, You're Under Arrest, Bubblegum Crisis, Area 88, etc.). There were also a lot of not-so-popular OVAs and TV series with adult characters, your mileage may vary on those.

Barring that, there are a handful of current works, like Space Dandy and... I guess Samurai Flamenco. Golden Time, is that still airing? Space Brothers, Hozuki no Reitetsu, Nobunaga the Fool... I guess One Piece counts too. Granted, these shows are kind of a minority when it comes to adult main characters, but it's still something.

Also, if you'd like for things to change, vote with your wallet, because that's what the industry listens to. We've gotten a lot more moe anime in recent years because otaku in Japan are willing to shell out the money to support those sorts of series. The industry can't afford to make works that don't sell, so if you don't support shows you like and give them an incentive to make works with adult characters, then those series aren't going to get made.


Hairbelly wrote: I think you picked the wrong hobby, my friend.


To be fair, it didn't used to be so unbalanced with teen main characters. Back in the 80's and 90's it was a fairly even mix of shows with kids, teens and adults as main characters. It's only been in the last 5-10 years that things started to majorly tilt towards teen characters.
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It goes without saying that most adults have been teenagers at one point, and that most teenagers have not been adults, and that the targeted audience for cartoon class entertainment gets limited when the main characters are all adults. There are, however, still plenty of animes with mostly if not all adult main characters.

Although, you may want more than one example, in Moribito, the main character is not only an adult, but a woman. Sure, she [Balsa] doesn't cover the broadest range, but she acts like a responsible 20-30 year old, which is befitting the story of a warrior who is in loco parentis. I believe that even though she doesn't cover the broadest range, many women especially, not excluding men, would find that the underlying story of Moribito, is that it is those who believe that they are least suitable to be parents who are the most suited for it. I cannot remember if she ever mentioned it, but that is the impression I got, of a woman who had chosen her line of profession.
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Miku isn't an anime character and neither are the rest of the Vocaloids. Nothing about them are related to anime because they're vocal/singing synthesizers. They're related to music games.
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Hairbelly wrote:


klote2314 wrote:



I think you picked the wrong hobby, my friend.

Anime is a product. It's like soda, cars, and phones. It's mass produced to appease the greatest amount of people and realize the largest profit on the smallest margin to create wealth for a small group of executives. It's not art. It's a product. Every product has a formula that is exploited until it doesn't work, and so does Anime.

Anime sells well as it is. The current formula works on each new generation of viewers. The target audience is mostly young people. I remember when I was 14-24. I didn't want my parents world anywhere near me. I wanted to relate to people of my own age. And, for the most part, I think that's what Anime is gear toward. Quite frankly, it does a good job at it.
This! Anime about older people, even about university people just doesn't sell well at all these days. Even the older buyers would rather think about their fond memories of high school rather than university when they had to start thinking about getting a job, a spouse, a mortgage... what a drag! High school means festivals, fun, romance, carefree... well, not always but the happy memories of it and that's what sells these days.

Either adapt to it or watch older anime or watch something else... or wait for the market to change and it really has. Female buyers have changed the market quite a bit and will likely continue to do so. Still, josei adaptations sell poorly so again that isn't what they want these days, they want bishounen ikemen who sing...
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Doesn't bother me in the slightest really. Yeah sure it'd be interesting to see more Anime with older characters, but chances are it will just be moe shows like Super Sonico (yes if you watched the first episode you'd know she is in University). The largest demographic for Anime has been said over and over again, its Teens to Young Adults, so like 14 through 24 I think is the range.

So for the 14-18 range they are able to relate with someone THEIR ages, especially in the High School settings. Where as 19-24 still enjoy these shows cause they can look back fondly on their own memories of High School while having to deal with those ugly real life things like University, Buying apartments/homes, learning to drive (since most Japanese don't learn until 18+ anyway), and other annoying stuff like that.

Will this trend change? Yeah probably trends always change, from what I have seen in a VERY general sense, the 90's were riddled with Mecha and Magical Girl Animes, now it's big Shonen titles and High School Animes, probably in a few more years something else will crop up and take over for awhile.

But that is just it, you have to be patient enough to wait. Will you get more adults? Maybe some, it's not like the 80's or 90's were empty of teenagers, they were there, just sometimes they were not as easily identifiable from what I have seen.
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klote2314 wrote:
Why cant we have Adults for once

i cant even remember a good anime where adults are the main cast...

Why are all the anime based up on annoying flat chested teenagers with their stupid problems!!!!


You clearly haven't looked very hard. This season we have Golden Times, which is set in college. Space Brothers is an ongoing show about the space program. Wizard Barristers is about lawyers defending magicians. None of these shows has a teenage cast. Log Horizon has a mix of ages.

Others have pointed out pretty much everything I'd want to. I'll add this bit: if you don't like the teenage shows, don't watch them. There are plenty of other shows that are fun to watch.
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As Hairbelly said, this is what sells the most for the anime industry. I to find it refreshing when we at least get college age or older characters (like Samurai Flamenco and Golden Time). But, as he pointed out, throughout most of the world youth sells more than maturity.
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really couldn't care less about the age and social standing of characters. as long as the story is good and the characters are enjoyable, that's all that matters. if you don't enjoy anime simply because you can't look past their age... well, then that's your loss.
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You clearly haven't looked very hard. This season we have Golden Times, which is set in college. Space Brothers is an ongoing show about the space program. Wizard Barristers is about lawyers defending magicians. None of these shows has a teenage cast. Log Horizon has a mix of ages.
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As Hairbelly said, this is what sells the most for the anime industry. I to find it refreshing when we at least get college age or older characters (like Samurai Flamenco and Golden Time). But, as he pointed out, throughout most of the world youth sells more than maturity.
And look at the sales... Golden Time, 1000 or less copies per volume, Samurai Flamenco 280 copies... Log Horizon sold OK 3800 copies but it isn't exactly about adult life. Presales, Wizard Barristers 1000 copies, terrible... just doesn't sell. Space Brothers is daytime so it doesn't really count but it doesn't sell well either.

Just doesn't sell. Market demand is what it's about and high school or younger is where it's at. Lots of middle school shows these days, lots of primary school characters... taking over the world or in high school even though they're 10 years old! And they even get hug pillows...
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/02/15-1/galilei-donna-world-conquest-zvezda-plot-and-girls-und-panzer-inspire-hug-pillows
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deadpanditto wrote:
You clearly haven't looked very hard. This season we have Golden Times, which is set in college. Space Brothers is an ongoing show about the space program. Wizard Barristers is about lawyers defending magicians. None of these shows has a teenage cast. Log Horizon has a mix of ages.
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dracphelan wrote:
As Hairbelly said, this is what sells the most for the anime industry. I to find it refreshing when we at least get college age or older characters (like Samurai Flamenco and Golden Time). But, as he pointed out, throughout most of the world youth sells more than maturity.
And look at the sales... Golden Time, 1000 or less copies per volume, Samurai Flamenco 280 copies... Log Horizon sold OK 3800 copies but it isn't exactly about adult life. Presales, Wizard Barristers 1000 copies, terrible... just doesn't sell. Space Brothers is daytime so it doesn't really count but it doesn't sell well either.

Just doesn't sell. Market demand is what it's about and high school or younger is where it's at. Lots of middle school shows these days, lots of primary school characters... taking over the world or in high school even though they're 10 years old! And they even get hug pillows...


Yes, I get that. My point was that regardless of sales shows with adult casts still get made and are on right now. He was asking why he couldn't watch such shows. I pointed out he was clearly wrong.

Yes, market economics will drive the majority of what gets made. Despite that, there will always bee some shows that will defy that trend in order to try and capture different market segments. That's also economics.
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Yes, I get that. My point was that regardless of sales shows with adult casts still get made and are on right now. He was asking why he couldn't watch such shows. I pointed out he was clearly wrong.

Yes, market economics will drive the majority of what gets made. Despite that, there will always bee some shows that will defy that trend in order to try and capture different market segments. That's also economics.
Indeed, I wasn't trying to say you were wrong. You are right that there are some adult shows being made but very few, about 10% of the shows out these days have adults as primary characters rather than teachers with the hots for the students.

And many of these shows are made to sell the novels instead which is true for Golden Time and Log Horizon at least. So for them disc sales may not be that important as long as it gets people reading the novels though light novel popularity is similarly high school biased at the moment. Adult novels are VERY different and only rarely get turned into anime. Like Shinsekai Yori... which sold 600 copies, sigh...
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aidenraine wrote:
really couldn't care less about the age and social standing of characters. as long as the story is good and the characters are enjoyable, that's all that matters. if you don't enjoy anime simply because you can't look past their age... well, then that's your loss.

QFT.

OP, if you dislike annoying characters in general, I'm sure that there are a lot of people who would agree with you. But if you are just annoyed specifically because the characters are teens...idk...
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