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The sun revolves around the earth?
Posted 2/16/14 , edited 2/20/14
According to a poll conducted by the National Science Foundation, it has been found that 1 in 4 Americans believe that the sun revolves around the earth... (full results pending further research)

Does this poll represent a potentially disturbing trend in the American education system?

What can be done to ensure those who got this question wrong receive can receive better education?

The Sun Revolves Around The Earth?
The Weather Channel
http://www.weather.com/video/sun-revolves-around-the-earth-44621

Further reading
Times News Feed - "1 in 4 Americans Apparently Unaware The Earth Orbits The Sun."
Samantha Grossman; February 16, 2014
http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/02/16/1-in-4-americans-thinks-sun-orbits-earth/#ixzz2tY4DDPkP
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1 in 4 Americans belive the kardashians is good tv.......what does that tell you?
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OF COURSE THE SUN REVOLVES AROUND THE EARTH

WHY DOES IT KEEP MOVING
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I'm a bit disturbed that whenever something like this comes up people automatically assume most Americans are stupid. It's like fandoms, there's always going to be the stupid ones. It's just that the stupid ones are in the minority and yet somehow always get more attention than the smart ones.

That said, the study only covered 2,200 people if I recall the video properly. It's also over a year old, possibly 2 years old since it took place in 2012. America has 313.9 million people. That means that they only polled 0.0007% of the population, that's not an accurate assessment. We also don't know what demographic they chose from, a wide selection across all states, race, education, and ages 18+? Or just a small selection of volunteers in California?

Found a different source, says that more than 2,200 people were used, but I find when anybody says that it's usually not by much, and not much more than a hundred if that, so that's still a low percentage.

Then you also have to consider that some people just don't want to learn. I hear stories about kids like that all the time from my aunt who teaches elementary in Florida. Some also just can't understand no matter how hard you try to teach them, they just can't grasp certain subjects. And I heard science commonly bemoaned about in my high school. If someone doesn't like a subject, why would they remember some facts?

Just because it should be focused on and taught, doesn't mean it's going to sink in. I read fanfiction quite a bit. And whenever I browse fanfiction, I find stories with bad grammar and spelling. As in, the person doesn't capitalize the 'I' and leave it at 'i'. Usually, those people are in high school. Capitalizing the 'I' is one of the earliest grammar things we learn, but it obviously doesn't sink in on a lot of kids and teens.

Also, I brought up the demographic for a reason. If most of the people were certain ages who got it wrong, like in the range 30-40, then it might be their education system that was bad, not the current one. There's more factors to it than just the current education system.

Think about this. I found this in the article I found for clarification: "Here’s the thing, though: Americans actually fared better than Europeans who took similar quizzes — at least when it came to the sun and Earth question. Only 66 percent of European Union residents answered that one correctly."

Read more: 1 in 4 Americans Think Sun Revolves Around Earth: Study | TIME.com http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/02/16/1-in-4-americans-thinks-sun-orbits-earth/#ixzz2tY4DDPkP

So it's not just an American problem. It's not just a stupidity problem. I recall a classmate in 7th grade who seriously thought there literally was a pole at the North pole. My grandma seriously said something about not wanting to sit by the window of the plane because of her hair. I think. But my grandma is smart, she did get a masters in religious education, people have to be somewhat smart to go through college.

In the end, I don't think this statistic is anything to be concerned over. If they had polled at least say 10,000 if not 100,000 then I'd be concerned. But they didn't.
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Ouzoathena11 wrote: But my grandma is smart, she did get a masters in religious education, people have to be somewhat smart to go through college.
Doesn't count.

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JustineKo2 wrote:


Ouzoathena11 wrote: But my grandma is smart, she did get a masters in religious education, people have to be somewhat smart to go through college.
Doesn't count.



If it was just religion I could possibly see your point. The education part means that she had to take classes to become a teacher. And actually, religious studies are difficult, there's more to it than just belief. They have to be able to analyze Bible passages (if it's Christian) among many other things. And becoming a teacher is no picnic, which is what that decree was for. It doesn't matter the subject, all teachers have to take the same courses on education and teaching.
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Well... that was certainly depressing.
I kind of want to cry now...
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Ouzoathena11 wrote:


That said, the study only covered 2,200 people if I recall the video properly. It's also over a year old, possibly 2 years old since it took place in 2012. America has 313.9 million people. That means that they only polled 0.0007% of the population, that's not an accurate assessment. We also don't know what demographic they chose from, a wide selection across all states, race, education, and ages 18+? Or just a small selection of volunteers in California?



Exactly. There are good studies and bad studies. If the sample consists of only 2200 people then one can not speak of them as representative for the US population. If it were a medical study though, and 2200 people of 2200 would have a bad reaction caused by a certain medication, then one can consider this as relevant data.

On the other hand, we must also consider that the fact that 2200 people in the USA think that the Sun is revolving around the Earth is still a dismaying discovery. It means that these people's education background should be checked more closely and eventually the educational institutions they visited as well, as it seems that their school education is a bit limping behind - of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that the school is at fault, but it's always good to make sure.
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U.S.A.?

Doesn't surprise me.
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Posted 2/17/14

Syndicaidramon wrote:

Well... that was certainly depressing.
I kind of want to cry now...

Have a piece of cake you will feel better
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Posted 2/17/14

dankuuwut wrote:

U.S.A.?

Doesn't surprise me.


if you look hard enough you can find dumb people in your part of the world too

Posted 2/17/14

uncletim wrote:


dankuuwut wrote:

U.S.A.?

Doesn't surprise me.


if you look hard enough you can find dumb people in your part of the world too


Yes.

The obvious is obvious.
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dankuuwut wrote:


uncletim wrote:


dankuuwut wrote:

U.S.A.?

Doesn't surprise me.


if you look hard enough you can find dumb people in your part of the world too


Yes.

The obvious is obvious.


oh wow what harsh comeback it stings me right to my soul you must have thought long and hard on it <golfclap> I must retreat unless you throw more of your sharp wit at me.

Posted 2/17/14

uncletim wrote:

oh wow what harsh comeback it stings me right to my soul you must have thought long and hard on it <golfclap> I must retreat unless you throw more of your sharp wit at me.
If I had known that something so trivial would provoke you I would've said nothing just to spare myself of yours.
Posted 2/17/14

Gyava wrote:

OF COURSE THE SUN REVOLVES AROUND THE EARTH

WHY DOES IT KEEP MOVING


How did yo know that before everyone?
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