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Christians: Who defines your interpretation of God?
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I think Christians actually have trouble with this question but maybe it doesn't need clarification at this point. I don't want to cause confusion, I trust that the question is clear and straightforward enough that I'll get a few good answers.

I'll advise though that this doesn't have a right or wrong answer, but it's entirely possible to completely misunderstand the question like one person I asked did. Don't read too much into the question I guess.

I hope for some honest answers, I'm just curious that's all.
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God can't be fully understood. Everything that was learned and recorded about him from the first records of the Hebrews to the modern - day Vatican is infinitely minuscule compared to what God actually is. One can never know all there is to know about God.
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Angerudusto wrote:

God can't be fully understood. Everything that was learned and recorded about him from the first records of the Hebrews to the modern - day Vatican is infinitely minuscule compared to what God actually is. One can never know all there is to know about God.


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Your perception.
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I do? I think that is just the best way, just build up what ever you think is nice in your head and work towards it or/and with it.
I have a dream and it is bit like combination of bunch of different religious and non religious stuff, but then again I've never taken any real religion seriously.

I think the best proverb to pull here is
"give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime".
You know what it means, if someone else has the power to feed you, but not you?
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pirththee wrote:


Angerudusto wrote:

God can't be fully understood. Everything that was learned and recorded about him from the first records of the Hebrews to the modern - day Vatican is infinitely minuscule compared to what God actually is. One can never know all there is to know about God.


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What?
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I think gravity is God. Therefore, I define God as something that has yet to be understood, but is the only thing keeping me grounded.
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Angerudusto wrote:


pirththee wrote:


Angerudusto wrote:

God can't be fully understood. Everything that was learned and recorded about him from the first records of the Hebrews to the modern - day Vatican is infinitely minuscule compared to what God actually is. One can never know all there is to know about God.


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What?
A concept attributed to Hinduism that states this world is just an indistinct reflection of the divine .

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I'm not really responding to every answer because like I said there is no real right or wrong. I'm just interested in the type of answers I get. I am reading everything in this thread and place value in everyones responses, and hope it provides something of value to others who read it. Although, if someone posts a really interesting answer that provokes additional thought, I'll probably reply.

@ Hairbelly, you didn't answer the question, maybe you can read it again, I'd like to know what your thoughts are.
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JustineKo2 wrote:

I think Christians actually have trouble with this question but maybe it doesn't need clarification at this point. I don't want to cause confusion, I trust that the question is clear and straightforward enough that I'll get a few good answers.

I'll advise though that this doesn't have a right or wrong answer, but it's entirely possible to completely misunderstand the question like one person I asked did. Don't read too much into the question I guess.

I hope for some honest answers, I'm just curious that's all.


I think the more appropriate question, the one that few people really think about too deeply, is "what is your god?"

That is, how does god function? People always say "god works in mysterious ways" but that is basically just saying you have no concept of a god or what it does. It's very easy for someone to argue 'maybe something exists outside the universe of some intelligence that can be closely equated to a concept of god' but once one asks 'well how does it affect the universe? What kinds of things does it do?" you begin having to either stick to your nebulously defined concept, or begin denying verifiable aspects of reality.

A concept too nebulous to actually robustly define to me sounds a lot more like an emotional state than it does an actual object. Perhaps 'god' is a word attributed to a sense of awe, or mystery, an emotional response... maybe even with electro-chemical origins in the brain.

I have as hard a time describing "love", or "happiness" as I often feel religious individuals experience trying to describe their 'god' concept. Still no matter how much I may love another human being, or enjoy the feelings of love, I can't exactly go around saying "love is what created the Andromeda galaxy".

The 'god' of religious texts, the god of actions and forces and effects, is entirely different from the 'god' of emotions, of 'powerful feelings', etc, etc. The god described by the latter sounds like it has no real power to do anything beyond what humans can already do ourselves. The former seems divorced from any coherent description of objective reality.
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SilvaZoldyck wrote:That is, how does god function? People always say "god works in mysterious ways" but that is basically just saying you have no concept of a god or what it does. It's very easy for someone to argue 'maybe something exists outside the universe of some intelligence that can be closely equated to a concept of god' but once one asks 'well how does it affect the universe? What kinds of things does it do?" you begin having to either stick to your nebulously defined concept, or begin denying verifiable aspects of reality.
Yes, yes yes! This is a big part of the reason I asked this question. Everyone has an interpretation of God like when you make a friend, you find a lot of good things about them that you admire and you formulate in your mind what kind of person they are. But until you've really known them a long time you don't have a perfectly accurate impression of them, in fact you may even ignore or deny the bad things that you discover, fearing that you won't like them anymore.

But with God, he doesn't ever make himself physically apparent, you go entirely off of what other people tell you and those people likely have an agenda because having authority on claiming to know what God is about gives you lots of power and influence. Doubters have no way of proving you wrong and people on the fence play it safe just in case this Hell and damnation stuff is for real.

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I'm not a christian, but wouldn't they usually listen to someone who seem to have a higher authority on the subject? Like the pope, or Jesus, or those other important religious figures, or a preacher. Now as for who defines their interpretation of god, who knows. Maybe it was their own thoughts? Or how they saw god? And maybe now we're just interpreting their interpretations, accurately or inaccurately.
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Hairbelly wrote:

I think gravity is God. Therefore, I define God as something that has yet to be understood, but is the only thing keeping me grounded.
I'd still like to hear your answer, you misunderstood the question, it seems.

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I'm not a christian, but wouldn't they usually listen to someone who seem to have a higher authority on the subject? Like the pope, or Jesus, or those other important religious figures, or a preacher. Now as for who defines their interpretation of god, who knows. Maybe it was their own thoughts? Or how they saw god? And maybe now we're just interpreting their interpretations, accurately or inaccurately.
See that's the thing, what do authority figures seem to keep posturing about lately? That homosexuality is wrong, having a choice about an abortion is abhorrent, we should teach our children that we all descended from survivors of a great flood, not a common primordial ancestor. They've made it all so politicised when belief in God should be only about the way you choose to conduct your life based on guiding principles (even though they are universal regardless of faith). This authority wants to be able to control what other people think is abhorrent just because they think its abhorrent. But no one knows if this "God" is actually supportive of those ideas, the ones enforcing them are not God, so what gives them the right to do so?

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