Writer looking for the next Kubo
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Hello Anime Community,

I am an aspiring manga writer, who is trying to create a manga. I am looking for an artisit who will work with me pro bono to make my story come to life. The manga manuscripts are done. I am also in search for someone who would like to work with me on a long term basis and possibly on a few other manga related projects. If anyone is interested please be aware that we will have monthly deadlines to meet, so speed is necessary. Thank You

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Posted 2/22/14
Why would someone work with you pro-bono when they could produce their own project? What incentive is there for anyone to work with you?
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I am currently a member of a newer manga company that is trying to promote their own manga story. There aren't many incentives now but there will be incentives down the road. We plan to pay said artist once our manga becomes popular and serialized. I hope this clarifies the situation a bit.
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Posted 2/23/14
"When we make it big we'll pay you."

Posting this flow chart, "should I work for free" so that other artists can see this is a waste of time:

http://shouldiworkforfree.com/

So far all you've said is that you work for a "newer manga company" and promised incentives to come down the road. Again, any artist who has free time could be developing their own story. Why should they work for free on your story when they have just as good of a chance of making it big with their own? You haven't provided any information to legitimize your claim that you even work for a company, how is anyone supposed to take you seriously?
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That is a interesting flowchart. I do not enjoy the fact that you are trying to demoralize my attempts of finding an artist. However, I am going to try and answer all of your questions.
What we are trying to do is recruit an artist that has ideas for their own manga but can help my organization as well. We have several writers in place but our illustrators are lackluster. I can not release the name of the company yet due to legal circumstances. If I wasn't serious about what my organization is trying accomplish why would I bother writing responses to your questions.Also we are a newer company that has it's beginnings in the latter portion of 2013. I also cannot promise what we don't have. We do not have the market share as of yet to pay everyone that would be on board for out projects. I did not promise anything.What my organization plans on doing is allowing or artist and writers committ to a contract that states: that if and when we make currency we will pay all parties involved.
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Dark-Cyborg wrote:

That is a interesting flowchart. I do not enjoy the fact that you are trying to demoralize my attempts of finding an artist.


I do not enjoy the fact that you are asking an artist to work for free. People don't seem to value art, you wouldn't ask a plumber to fix your pipes for free, or a contractor to build you a house for free. Yet for some reason artists can work for free..."It'll be good exposure", "we'll pay you when we make it big." You can't pay your bills with good intentions and any artists from these forums reading this thread should take heed. If you want to be taken seriously as a professional you need to realize your value. Working for others for free only devalues your art. If you're going to work for free, develop your own comic.



I can not release the name of the company yet due to legal circumstances.


Sounds pretty shady to me. So you're asking someone to enter a business agreement with an entity they're not allowed to know the name of? If you're taking the steps of actually trying to recruit someone, there should be no legal reason why you can't reveal the name of the company you work for...



If I wasn't serious about what my organization is trying accomplish why would I bother writing responses to your questions.


Look, I understand you're probably serious about what you're trying to accomplish. But in my opinion you're not taking it seriously enough if you expect, "the next kubo" to just volunteer to work with you for free. Kubo is an amazing artist, so if you're looking for someone of his level as the title implies, in my opinion you're not taking this seriously enough.



Also we are a newer company that has it's beginnings in the latter portion of 2013. I also cannot promise what we don't have. We do not have the market share as of yet to pay everyone that would be on board for out projects.


Well it sounds to me like you need to plan these things a bit better. When I was planning on starting my own studio I realized I'd need capital before I could quit my day job. I saved for years before I could even consider stepping out on my own. Now finally it's time. If you are taking this seriously as you said, it might be time for you and your members to put this project on hold while you save a bit of money so you can actually hire someone to do art. Having the money to actually pay your artist would certainly prove to anyone that you were truly serious about this project.



I did not promise anything.


Yes you did, from your last reply:


Dark-Cyborg wrote:

There aren't many incentives now but there will be incentives down the road. We plan to pay said artist once our manga becomes popular and serialized. I hope this clarifies the situation a bit.


That is called "the promise of payment upon success."



What my organization plans on doing is allowing or artist and writers committ to a contract that states: that if and when we make currency we will pay all parties involved.


You haven't really provided any reason for an artist to work with you. You can't share details of the project or the company for "legal reasons", and you can't pay anyone involved. I understand the idea of having a dream and chasing after it. In many ways you and I are similar, but you need to take the art needed for a project like this seriously and offer compensation for it.

Until you can, I'll refer everyone reading back to the flowchart:

http://shouldiworkforfree.com/

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