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How Can We Stop Pedophiles? Stop treating them like monsters.
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Posted 2/28/14
I still think it's impossible to tell if someone is a pedo before they act on their urges

BTW AA is a very bad model to go by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WoHM0ktuJk&index=112&list=PL84A91744A72011F6

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So the article says pedophilia is a mental thing people are born with that cannot be changed, and the people in the video wants to arrest all the pedophiles for virtual rape. So should we pardon those pedophiles for virtual rape? Probably not. But why are they going after just the pedophiles? Why not also the guys who are taking the pedophiles' money and putting the kids in front of webcams?
Many parents directed their children for sex videos in front of webcams connected via the Internet to paying paedophiles overseaes. The thing is in the Philippines, it is not rare for the parents to use their children as sex workers to make money for the family. Something that the video failed to mentioned ironically. Kill the pedophile, but not the the pimp because they are mommy and daddy

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-25729140


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How do you stop pedos, you ask? I've always had one and only one answer; A bullet.
I believe in innocent until proven guilty, you clearly think it goes the other way around.
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This is such bullshit, that's taking one thing and calling it something else. How can you blame society's prejudices for these people's actions? That's just an attempt at alleviating the responsibility these people have over their actions. It's not molestation, it's expression. Haha, what a fucking cop out.
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tehstud wrote:

This is such bullshit, that's taking one thing and calling it something else. How can you blame society's prejudices for these people's actions? That's just an attempt at alleviating the responsibility these people have over their actions. It's not molestation, it's expression. Haha, what a fucking cop out.


There's a difference between the actual sex-offenders and the non-sex offenders who suppress their desires.



Not really. Because the part of being their as a collective effort in order to help each other stay clean is still the main thing.
There's no reason why the 12 steps with "god" and "being powerless" has to be in there, just because they are the easiest example.
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Posted 2/28/14

Skreig wrote:

How do you stop pedos, you ask? I've always had one and only one answer; A bullet.


That's just my opinion.

Carry on.


Wow. So edgy.

Enjoy your first degree murder charge.

A pedophile is not the same thing as a child molester. You can't just kill someone who hasn't committed a crime based on your disgust for them. Move to North Korea if that's how you want to live.

All people who abuse children should be brought to justice. I'll let the professionals decide what their punishment is.
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spinningtoehold0 wrote:

So the article says pedophilia is a mental thing people are born with that cannot be changed, and the people in the video wants to arrest all the pedophiles for virtual rape. So should we pardon those pedophiles for virtual rape? Probably not. But why are they going after just the pedophiles? Why not also the guys who are taking the pedophiles' money and putting the kids in front of webcams?
Many parents directed their children for sex videos in front of webcams connected via the Internet to paying paedophiles overseaes. The thing is in the Philippines, it is not rare for the parents to use their children as sex workers to make money for the family. Something that the video failed to mentioned ironically. Kill the pedophile, but not the the pimp because they are mommy and daddy

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-25729140

It's crazy what they would do to their kids just for money. Regardless of their unfortunate circumstances, both the pedophiles and the pimp parents have done wrong to the kids and neither should be overlooked. I don't think there should be any sympathy for either side once the crime is committed.
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Seems to be some pretty liberal views on this site. I am sorry but I find the argument that we should put our arms around pedophiles, somewhat foolish. People who may have never molested a child themselves, but have watched abusive videos of children ,still need to be locked up permanently.
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Seems to be some pretty liberal views on this site. I am sorry but I find the argument that we should put our arms around pedophiles, somewhat foolish. People who may have never molested a child themselves, but have watched abusive videos of children ,still need to be locked up permanently.


First of all, not all pedophiles have necessarily watched abusive videos of children. And even if they have, that is still no reason to lock them up indefinitely. People can change.
If someone has yet to harm someone, we should encourage them to keep not acting upon their desires. And the best way to do that, is to not treat them like shit.
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By watching abusive videos of children, there continues to be a demand, thus more children are abused to sate that demand, everyone has urges, its just ensuring one acts within the acceptable moral boundaries of society. I like most men have seen schoolgirls I have f
thought very pretty. I do not try to get them in bed. However I take the point that if someone has sexual urges towards children, but has not acted on them or watched abusive videos, and indeed actively seeks help, then that person should be helped as no laws have been broken by them. The law needs to be upheld society must protect children at whatever cost.
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tehstud wrote:

This is such bullshit, that's taking one thing and calling it something else. How can you blame society's prejudices for these people's actions? That's just an attempt at alleviating the responsibility these people have over their actions. It's not molestation, it's expression. Haha, what a fucking cop out.


There's a difference between the actual sex-offenders and the non-sex offenders who suppress their desires.


Like the difference between an explosion and a time bomb? Regardless, these people need to understand that their inclinations are wrong and harmful, doesn't matter if they're predisposed to such. And the solution is certainly not to condone such urges and try to minimize and desensitize the public to the effects that pedophilia has on the victims and families. That's ridiculous. Let's not focus on the crimes committed or the lives maimed and ruined, we should all focus on the imagined social injustices that produced such actions.
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tehstud wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


tehstud wrote:

This is such bullshit, that's taking one thing and calling it something else. How can you blame society's prejudices for these people's actions? That's just an attempt at alleviating the responsibility these people have over their actions. It's not molestation, it's expression. Haha, what a fucking cop out.


There's a difference between the actual sex-offenders and the non-sex offenders who suppress their desires.


Like the difference between an explosion and a time bomb? Regardless, these people need to understand that their inclinations are wrong and harmful, doesn't matter if they're predisposed to such. And the solution is certainly not to condone such urges and try to minimize and desensitize the public to the effects that pedophilia has on the victims and families. That's ridiculous. Let's not focus on the crimes committed or the lives maimed and ruined, we should all focus on the imagined social injustices that produced such actions.


A time bomb will go off eventually if armed. A pedophile -- not necessarily. Not if they can get help. Get counceling. Aid in order to suppress their desires and keep them in check as much as possible.
No one is saying pedophilia is not wrong or that it is not harmful. No one. Nor is anyone suggesting that we minimize it or desensitize the public to it.
Merely that we don't blindly judge and people who have desires that they themselves most likely wish they didn't have. That we don't treat them like shit even though they haven't commited a crime.

That is not in any way the same as desensitizing, minimizing or normalizing. It's merely using your brain and THINKING beyond blind prejudice.
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cosham wrote:

Seems to be some pretty liberal views on this site. I am sorry but I find the argument that we should put our arms around pedophiles, somewhat foolish. People who may have never molested a child themselves, but have watched abusive videos of children ,still need to be locked up permanently.


I mostly agree with this . A quite a few of this pedophiles either don't know why it is bad or simply put they just don't give damn even if they know it is bad , they aren't going to change their mind you can't fix people who don't want to be "fixed" . Now I do believe the ones that want help proved that they didn't act on their urges should get it. But what methods would be effective? If their urges are present there is a possible chance that some will act on their urges or some will pretend they are fixed and act on their urges again.

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Chemical castration.

Now proceed to do just this and watch the issue be solved.


Yeah! We can solve homosexuality the same way!

By the gods, to think so much stupid could exist in one person...

Permit me to play devils advocate for a moment if you will.

Many fetishes, desires, however you want to put it, sexual inclinations perhaps, are not exactly under the control of the person and are not like an STD or infectious disease, consider homosexuality, being inclined toward ones own gender, or something less contentious perhaps, like a preference for redheads.

Why does an individual prefer people with red hair? Personally, no idea, but I'll be damned if I don't find a strawberry blond with green eyes hot by default.

Why do we view a sexual inclination toward children any differently? It's a preference, one that is perhaps less savoury than the innocent acting of preferring a certain shade of hair colour, but a preference nontheless, and one that is, perhaps, not under the control of the individual.

Having this preference does not make one a child molester anymore than liking women as a man makes one a rapist, regardless of preference an individuals inability to keep his urges under control and maintain a certain standard of behaviour is reprehensible, doesn't matter what you like, forcing it on someone unwilling to, or unable to, consent is illegal and evil beyond reproach.

It is perhaps this very attitude that you display that causes these problems, by forcing someone to bottle things up it inevitably leads to a breaking point, bottle up stress or anxiety can cause one to breakdown, particularly when exposed to it again, and again, and again.

It is not a preference for children that makes one a molester, moreover, your actions are responsible for more rapes and molestations than an acceptance and open dialogue would be. Congratulations.
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sevenhells wrote:


KosherKrackers wrote:


sevenhells wrote:

Chemical castration.

Now proceed to do just this and watch the issue be solved.


Yeah! We can solve homosexuality the same way!

By the gods, to think so much stupid could exist in one person...

Permit me to play devils advocate for a moment if you will.

Many fetishes, desires, however you want to put it, sexual inclinations perhaps, are not exactly under the control of the person and are not like an STD or infectious disease, consider homosexuality, being inclined toward ones own gender, or something less contentious perhaps, like a preference for redheads.

Why does an individual prefer people with red hair? Personally, no idea, but I'll be damned if I don't find a strawberry blond with green eyes hot by default.

Why do we view a sexual inclination toward children any differently? It's a preference, one that is perhaps less savoury than the innocent acting of preferring a certain shade of hair colour, but a preference nontheless, and one that is, perhaps, not under the control of the individual.

Having this preference does not make one a child molester anymore than liking women as a man makes one a rapist, regardless of preference an individuals inability to keep his urges under control and maintain a certain standard of behaviour is reprehensible, doesn't matter what you like, forcing it on someone unwilling to, or unable to, consent is illegal and evil beyond reproach.

It is perhaps this very attitude that you display that causes these problems, by forcing someone to bottle things up it inevitably leads to a breaking point, bottle up stress or anxiety can cause one to breakdown, particularly when exposed to it again, and again, and again.

It is not a preference for children that makes one a molester, moreover, your actions are responsible for more rapes and molestations than an acceptance and open dialogue would be. Congratulations.


Look, dipshit, chemical castration has been used on people who've abused children and it works. No amount of therapy can fix them and disabling their ability to feel sexual attraction is often the only way to keep them from destroying the lives of innocent children. If it were me, I'd have any pedophile caught executed, but such is the way of the world that we can't have nice things.

No sorry chemical castration does not work 100% of the time there have been more then a few cases where chemical castration have molested again

Posted 3/9/14

uncletim wrote:


sevenhells wrote:


KosherKrackers wrote:


sevenhells wrote:

Chemical castration.

Now proceed to do just this and watch the issue be solved.


Yeah! We can solve homosexuality the same way!

By the gods, to think so much stupid could exist in one person...

Permit me to play devils advocate for a moment if you will.

Many fetishes, desires, however you want to put it, sexual inclinations perhaps, are not exactly under the control of the person and are not like an STD or infectious disease, consider homosexuality, being inclined toward ones own gender, or something less contentious perhaps, like a preference for redheads.

Why does an individual prefer people with red hair? Personally, no idea, but I'll be damned if I don't find a strawberry blond with green eyes hot by default.

Why do we view a sexual inclination toward children any differently? It's a preference, one that is perhaps less savoury than the innocent acting of preferring a certain shade of hair colour, but a preference nontheless, and one that is, perhaps, not under the control of the individual.

Having this preference does not make one a child molester anymore than liking women as a man makes one a rapist, regardless of preference an individuals inability to keep his urges under control and maintain a certain standard of behaviour is reprehensible, doesn't matter what you like, forcing it on someone unwilling to, or unable to, consent is illegal and evil beyond reproach.

It is perhaps this very attitude that you display that causes these problems, by forcing someone to bottle things up it inevitably leads to a breaking point, bottle up stress or anxiety can cause one to breakdown, particularly when exposed to it again, and again, and again.

It is not a preference for children that makes one a molester, moreover, your actions are responsible for more rapes and molestations than an acceptance and open dialogue would be. Congratulations.


Look, dipshit, chemical castration has been used on people who've abused children and it works. No amount of therapy can fix them and disabling their ability to feel sexual attraction is often the only way to keep them from destroying the lives of innocent children. If it were me, I'd have any pedophile caught executed, but such is the way of the world that we can't have nice things.

No sorry chemical castration does not work 100% of the time there have been more then a few cases where chemical castration have molested again



When does chemical castration itself molest anyone?
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