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Posted 3/9/14 , edited 3/10/14
So I noticed that it's not explicitly against the rules here to promote your own projects. On some forums, it's extremely frowned upon to even mention that you do anything on your own. I mean, some people even get angry over it, as if promoting yourself is just plain rude. Personally, it has me puzzled for many reasons, but I won't get into that. I'll just leave you with this to ponder:

How are creators supposed to find success if they're shunned for promoting their hard work?


Side note: my goal isn't to draw attention away from the websites. If anything, I'd rather be affiliated. I would have zero complaints about promoting the forums I post in.
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Posted 3/9/14 , edited 3/9/14
I'll just leave this here.

Youtube.com/Mrchamplooo


See how well this goes and you might have an answer ;D
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Posted 3/9/14
Meh, upon closer inspection, I notice that it is indeed against the rules. You have to expand the detailed rules which I missed altogether at first. Still confused by it, but I will respectfully quit posting my videos here if that's really how it has to be.
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Posted 3/10/14 , edited 3/10/14

shinzou-kun wrote:

So I noticed that it's not explicitly against the rules here to promote your own projects. On some forums, it's extremely frowned upon to even mention that you do anything on your own. I mean, some people even get angry over it, as if promoting yourself is just plain rude. Personally, it has me puzzled for many reasons, but I won't get into that. I'll just leave you with this to ponder:

How are creators supposed to find success if they're shunned for promoting their hard work?


Side note: my goal isn't to draw attention away from the websites. If anything, I'd rather be affiliated. I would have zero complaints about promoting the forums I post in.


Just wanted to clarify that promotion of some projects is explicitly permitted, per the site rules:

Allowed: Links to crowdfunding sites are allowed as long as they break no other rules (scam/adult content) and are for smaller independent companies creating an actual product. Links to music or other art you create is also allowed so long as there is no purchase links/pay for hits involved.

Currently The Artist's Corner, and Writer's Corner are good places to promote projects, but sometimes a post, or announcement thread elsewhere is okay so long as it's on-topic and not done so frequently that it feels like spam.

One thing to remember is that forums are places primarily for conversation and community, and a lot of times people are okay with folks mentioning what they do for creative projects if they also participate like true members of the community. It's when it seems like the only reason someone is posting is to advertise, and not that they genuinely care about sharing with a community, that promotion is seen negatively.

Also, since this question seems to genuinely be more for gathering opinions about this practice in general and is not a request for CR site support, I'm moving it to the Polls forum.
Posted 3/10/14
I don' "love" to see it but I don't mind. I just Googled Animyth Productions... now on Youtube... not sure what I'm looking at...closes tab.
Posted 3/10/14
i hate it when people self-promote themselves on youtube comments... it's very obnoxious...

"hi im a 14 year old girl, my mother died, and i'm singing this song... please help me become famous"
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Posted 3/10/14
Personally, I like seeing people's other work here (I display mine on occasion) - as lorreen says, so long as they're taking part in the community as well. When the profile just exists to promote the item(s) and just spams about the item(s), though.. not so good.
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Posted 3/10/14 , edited 1/24/15
I feel like its necessary if you want to get by doing your thing, but sooooo annoying because I'll click on what I think is a discussion thread and it isn't. Basically, I'd like people to make it clear right away that it's a "hey check my stuff out" sort of thing, so I only look at self promotion when I'm willing to look at self promotion.
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Posted 3/10/14

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Just wanted to clarify that promotion of some projects is explicitly permitted, per the site rules:

Allowed: Links to crowdfunding sites are allowed as long as they break no other rules (scam/adult content) and are for smaller independent companies creating an actual product. Links to music or other art you create is also allowed so long as there is no purchase links/pay for hits involved.


Oh okay, that clears it up more for me. I was looking at the one just above it though:

~ Advertising for profit or personal gain. Links to youtube videos that the poster has monetized, crowdfunding projects to pay a person to make a series of webisodes, or any other form of link that gives personal profit is not allowed.

My goal was not advertising for profit, but most of my videos do have ads on them. I'm glad to see that not all projects are against the rules. :)



One thing to remember is that forums are places primarily for conversation and community, and a lot of times people are okay with folks mentioning what they do for creative projects if they also participate like true members of the community. It's when it seems like the only reason someone is posting is to advertise, and not that they genuinely care about sharing with a community, that promotion is seen negatively.

I try to be genuine when I can, but I guess it's a matter of time for me personally. I should consider setting aside more time to post about other topics, or just stop posting, heh. The last thing I want is to build a reputation for disregarding that sort of etiquette.


Also, since this question seems to genuinely be more for gathering opinions about this practice in general and is not a request for CR site support, I'm moving it to the Polls forum.


Thank you! I was confused when the topic drop-down appeared, because i assumed it would just post it where I clicked "new poll." I understood after it posted, but then it was too late for me to change it myself.
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Posted 3/10/14

Artarivan wrote:

I don' "love" to see it but I don't mind. I just Googled Animyth Productions... now on Youtube... not sure what I'm looking at...closes tab.


poop! D:

Well I'm working on a channel trailer and project descriptions now, so hopefully people in your position will be able to understand what Animyth is about when I'm finished. Basically, I animate my own anime and I talk about existing anime.
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Creativity is what drives the world!
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Posted 10/13/14
Well, it's bad etiquette to post on a fourm about something you've just submitted - especially if it has been submitted on a rival website. This often lead to all of us on newgrounds blaming (effectively down voting it till it gets removed) the project just because they tried to promote it.

However, if it's in the appropriate place then I don't see why not.
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Posted 10/27/14
Well the internet is a huge place. As a self promoter, you have to find website that will help you get your work out to people who may be willing to buy your product. It also depends on what you're doing too.

Some sites that don't allow self promotion probably don't know much about the difference between spam and authentic advertising.
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