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Posted 5/1/14

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AnimeKami wrote:

I truly believe people should understand that addressing someone as (older) brother or sister in an Asian culture can be a form of respect.



But Chaika even makes a comment about forbidden love.


1) Where I and the rest of the world draws the line of "incest" is different. I do not want to pry into anyone's comfort zone.

2) The one-liner Toru speaks of in episode 4 of not being blood related.

So... I interrupted that scene as a joke. Akira is portrayed as the possessive type, very affection to Toru. In this realm there is a misunderstanding from their societal interaction via Akira addressing Toru as "older brother".

What I can infer currently is, they were both tutored under the same mentor and (usually) the older, stronger, more experienced student is addressed as the older one. We as an audience do not know the background story of both Akira and Toru, yet. (maybe the manga/LN readers have insight)

As far as I am concerned now, their relationship is misinterpreted by society. Along with Akira's personality, the "forbidden love," is a gag.

Leading back to my first post, I wanted to make clear that "older" anything does not necessarily mean "incest".
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Alright I can see where you are coming from.

It still bothers me though, but not to the point of not watching. Maybe because its so easy to misinterpret.

I just wish it was handled a little differently.
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^ AK is making a good point here.

If you actually listen to the language and don't just read the subs, you will hear that sometimes a younger character who does not have familial ties to an older character will refer to the older character as "Onii-chan, onii-san, onee-san, etc, etc."


Now, I think what Chaika is doing is walking the line between "incest" and "not-incest." The fact that she calls him "brother" has been emphasized pretty heavily up until this point, and they are just now making clear that, "Oh, she's not reaaaally his sister *wink wink.*"

It's a convenient way to shoehorn in the imouto with hots for her brother, while making use of a technicality to say, "Oh, but it's really okay that she likes him," much like what SAO did with Suguha.


So, while I think AK is right generally that "older" doesn't necessarily mean "incest," right now they are kind of playing a game where the audience can get excited about the idea of incest without having to feel guilty about it because, "they're not reaallly siblings."

However, Akira's story at the door in this episode was, I thought, very obviously not intended to be taken seriously. We the audience already know that the story she gave is a fake one, so it's a joke that we get to share with the characters.

As for Akira, she and Toru don't really have a sibling relationship other than the surface level of her calling him "brother," so really they are just using that particular form of address to both show her respect and play the imouto card at the same time.
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Posted 5/1/14

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Alright I can see where you are coming from.

It still bothers me though, but not to the point of not watching. Maybe because its so easy to misinterpret.

I just wish it was handled a little differently.


there are really good documentaries on Japanese sexuality, fetishes and forbidden stuff. the japanese love this type of humor and erotica. theycrave what they cannot have. during my trip to japan earlier this year, the true nature of akihabara, i saw with my eyes.

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Being as I'm not Japanese, maybe I just don't understand lol.

But, its fine, it doesn't overly bother me. And it was mostly played as a joke this episode. I was mostly commenting to the people calling out incest and what I thought about it.

Plus, other anime this season I'm watching also have brother/sister things going on. xD And Im still watching them.

I'm really enjoying this anime, it was just one thing that bothered me.
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all harems needs a little sister.

FACT.
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all harems needs a little sister.

FACT.


Akira doesn't fit the normal little sister trope lol.
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Sacae89 wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

all harems needs a little sister.

FACT.


Akira doesn't fit the normal little sister trope lol.


au contraire mon cheri, one hasn't shown up yet.
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I love Akira though, her humor is great. She one of my favorite sisters this season, after Shiro from No Game No Life.



Hahaha gotcha.
Posted 5/1/14
loli with big weapons and I'm sucker for those eyebrows..

I'll give it a watch!
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Why are some of you saying Chaika is a loli she's only a head shorter then the other two main characters
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First Chaika Trabant is a 14 year old sorceress!

Second She also has a scar around her neck that looks like her head was chopped off.

So she has had it rough so much she is beyond a Loli even if nothing has happened!

The Scar!



Because ?? Massive Spoiler Warning

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A .gif from the Dark Side...
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blegh, sibling-cons are annoying, harems are annoying i thought this was just gonna center on the cute lil princess gathering her daddy's remains, with some fighting and cool stuff along the way. aaggh why anime fail me again

at least the princess's magic was useful this time around. I also still really like the blood transformations or whatever they're called.
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Posted 5/2/14

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A .gif from the Dark Side...


*salutes*
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