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LoomyTheBrew wrote:

Not sure how I feel about this one.

First off I'll say that I really like the art. I love all the vibrant and bright colors. The voice actors are great as well: Kirito's VA and Inori's (Guilty Crown) VA.

But I'm just not too sure how I like the characters and the world. I don't like how they basically have given up on life and don't care about anything except games. It just bugs me. Maybe, this will leave room for a lot of character development?

Also, the world itself just seems weird to me. It almost seems like it's a more glorified version of Oz from Summer Wars except it's reality this time around. Which I guess isn't bad, but I just don't find it that compelling of a world to be honest.

I think I need to give this a few more episodes before a real judgement, but I wasn't too impressed by this intial episode. Though, I know a lot of people are liking it so far so I don't mean to rain on everyone's parade. That's just how I feel


Haha and my paraded has been rained upon, </3...But I wouldnt go as far as too say they have given up on life, from the way I perceive them they are freaking genius, God knows how High their IQ must be, at a certain point when the IQ is just so high normalcy and life becomes mundane and useless as nothing entertains you anymore, and I think that is the point they have reached, if this helps in your judgement?
You saw during the poker he was doing some intense counting cards, to the point of precise probability .


I wouldn't be surprised if for some reason they're also good at sports. You can have all the brains in the world and suck at games 'cuz you can't control your reflexes/timing/etc.

I found it amusing when they when they questioned whether the chess opponent they defeated is even human, since then what would that make them? I'm not so sure about the high IQ part since having a high IQ does not actually make you do mathematical calculations faster in your head. That sort of ability belongs to prodigious savants and many of them like the rain man have really low IQs. They're likely smart to some degree but they probably owe the rest of the power to some magic resembling the super cheater with those magic eyes who laid the beat down on the princess.
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Interesting. Will give this a few more episodes. And on a side note for me, I get this feeling they aren't the first people from earth. And they might meet other people that will give them a challenge and make them come close too losing.
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Posted 4/9/14 , edited 4/9/14

LoomyTheBrew wrote:

Lol, I knew I was going to rain on someone's parade!

I agree that both of them are very smart, but they also both didn't want to do anything with their knowledge and just gave up on the real world, calling it a "bad game." Don't really like that message.

Of course this new world they're in is perfect for them, but they basically did give up on their old lives. Maybe the new world will open their eyes a little and give them perspective, but I don't really see the main characters in a good light right now.

I've been mulling over whether or not the fantasy they're constructing is a decent or delusional one, and in the end I'm pretty optimistic. Fantasies I have trouble with are self-inserts where an average protagonist is put in a world that suits him perfectly, so that the average viewer can go "The world should be like that, he's getting the respect I should get."

But this is different. These kids are freaking geniuses, not at all the average viewer. They are to average NEETs what Odysseus or Achilles was to the average Ancient Greek: extraordinary characters who still retain human fallibility around which a great story can be woven. And through that story we can both aspire, empathize, and feel a little fulfilled by it.

At the very least I expect this to be decent escapist fantasy, and at best it'll effectively "gamify" real life. We've already seen Shiro and Sora do, on a grander scale, what an average person could be doing in real life: getting out into a world, learning its rules, and finding a way to utilize their strengths so that they feel fulfilled and galvanized by the experience.

I'm hoping and expecting No Game, No Life to create a pattern on a grand scale which, if shrunk down to normal human terms and applied to our own lives, would still be very relevant and worth aspiring towards. It'll be full of fantasy and whimsy, but that's what makes it fun, just like Hercules fighting the hydra or Odysseus straining against the sirens.

The best, and most important part, is that Shiro and Sora are being proactive. This world is not giving them free stuff, but it's wide open and full of possibilities. Just like our own is. And the engagement, effort, and wherewithal that will reward Shiro and Sora can reward anyone who steps up to emulate their example in more reasonable, human, terms.


I just think the series isn't simple escapist fantasy; it's certainly a fantasy but at it's core it's going to emphasize and highlight the kind of skills, effort, and activities that people could very well emulate in their real lives, if in a less fantastic way, and still benefit from. It's looking at NEETdom and going "You've got useful skills! You can use them for things!"

Might just be my interpretation, and I'll need more episodes to replace my extrapolation.

But still, I'm keen on it. I at least don't think they're sending a bad message, per se.
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But hey you can agree they are adding to the High level (OP) MC's of this season :P, which should be somewhat of a win in your book.


Who else is OP for anime in this seasons releases? I like characters that can handle themselves.


Lets see, we have Jotaro from Jojo, We have the Chaika cast (I cant tell how strong the guy and his sister are yet, but I can tell its up there), The brother ( in terms of hand to hand combat) and likely his sister from irregular magic HS, The black bullet main but The MC male is lower while the Loli is higher in level, then of course there is Fairy tail with an entire cast full of them. Haikyu has promise of sports OP MC's
I could count the MC's in The world is still beautiful and Baby steps, although not action orientated...so the season is quite stacked.
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Interesting. Totally not what I was thinking it would be. Very intriguing show. Also, Shiro sounds like the VA for Yoshino from Date a Live. The animation is different. Not sure how to put my finger on it, but that's not a bad thing either.
Posted 4/9/14
For the first episode, it was mild for me. But I think it something I'm looking for. I'll continue watching it. Sora & Shiro (CV: Yoshitsugu Matsuoka & Ai Kayano respective) make me want to watch this series to see how these two. I can get passed the fanservice of the series I believe. Looks like I also need to pick up and put the Light Novel as high priority on my list.
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Episode 1
Okay start,I guess.Don't really like Sora and Shiro tbh.

The vivid colors seem hideous/blinding imo.And the character designs aren't that good either.Hopefully it won't take too long to get use to them.

Not really much to say this seems quite forgettable.
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This just made the season better..
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Posted 4/9/14

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LoomyTheBrew wrote:

Lol, I knew I was going to rain on someone's parade!

I agree that both of them are very smart, but they also both didn't want to do anything with their knowledge and just gave up on the real world, calling it a "bad game." Don't really like that message.

Of course this new world they're in is perfect for them, but they basically did give up on their old lives. Maybe the new world will open their eyes a little and give them perspective, but I don't really see the main characters in a good light right now.

I've been mulling over whether or not the fantasy they're constructing is a decent or delusional one, and in the end I'm pretty optimistic. Fantasies I have trouble with are self-inserts where an average protagonist is put in a world that suits him perfectly, so that the average viewer can go "The world should be like that, he's getting the respect I should get."

But this is different. These kids are freaking geniuses, not at all the average viewer. They are to average NEETs what Odysseus or Achilles was to the average Ancient Greek: extraordinary characters who still retain human fallibility around which a great story can be woven. And through that story we can both aspire, empathize, and feel a little fulfilled by it.

At the very least I expect this to be decent escapist fantasy, and at best it'll effectively "gamify" real life. We've already seen Shiro and Sora do, on a grander scale, what an average person could be doing in real life: getting out into a world, learning its rules, and finding a way to utilize their strengths so that they feel fulfilled and galvanized by the experience.

I'm hoping and expecting No Game, No Life to create a pattern on a grand scale which, if shrunk down to normal human terms and applied to our own lives, would still be very relevant and worth aspiring towards. It'll be full of fantasy and whimsy, but that's what makes it fun, just like Hercules fighting the hydra or Odysseus straining against the sirens.

The best, and most important part, is that Shiro and Sora are being proactive. This world is not giving them free stuff, but it's wide open and full of possibilities. Just like our own is. And the engagement, effort, and wherewithal that will reward Shiro and Sora can reward anyone who steps up to emulate their example in more reasonable, human, terms.


I just think the series isn't simple escapist fantasy; it's certainly a fantasy but at it's core it's going to emphasize and highlight the kind of skills, effort, and activities that people could very well emulate in their real lives, if in a less fantastic way, and still benefit from. It's looking at NEETdom and going "You've got useful skills! You can use them for things!"

Might just be my interpretation, and I'll need more episodes to replace my extrapolation.

But still, I'm keen on it. I at least don't think they're sending a bad message, per se.


Good explanation and all, but I still felt the escapism vibe from the first episode. I didn't come away with a positive outlook like you did. Though what you said can be true, I just need a few more episodes to go off of before saying I agree with you or not.

I don't want to say your wrong because that's a good way of looking at it, but I didn't get that impression whatsoever.
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Posted 4/9/14

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Interesting. Totally not what I was thinking it would be. Very intriguing show. Also, Shiro sounds like the VA for Yoshino from Date a Live. The animation is different. Not sure how to put my finger on it, but that's not a bad thing either.


She kind of does, but they don't share the same VA. This is Shiro's VA:

http://myanimelist.net/people/10765/Ai_Kayano
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Posted 4/9/14

LoomyTheBrew wrote:


shaunj07 wrote:

Interesting. Totally not what I was thinking it would be. Very intriguing show. Also, Shiro sounds like the VA for Yoshino from Date a Live. The animation is different. Not sure how to put my finger on it, but that's not a bad thing either.


She kind of does, but they don't share the same VA. This is Shiro's VA:

http://myanimelist.net/people/10765/Ai_Kayano


Oh, thanks for the info. I've never watched GC subbed so I didn't know she was also Inori's VA.
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Wow the God Tet is the same seiyuu as Kagura from Gintama.
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Wow the God Tet is the same seiyuu as Kagura from Gintama.


Cool I love Kagura.
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Posted 4/9/14

shaunj07 wrote:


LoomyTheBrew wrote:


shaunj07 wrote:

Interesting. Totally not what I was thinking it would be. Very intriguing show. Also, Shiro sounds like the VA for Yoshino from Date a Live. The animation is different. Not sure how to put my finger on it, but that's not a bad thing either.


She kind of does, but they don't share the same VA. This is Shiro's VA:

http://myanimelist.net/people/10765/Ai_Kayano


Oh, thanks for the info. I've never watched GC subbed so I didn't know she was also Inori's VA.


Ya no problem!

Oh you didn't? Really liked the voice actors of GC, but just didn't really like the show itself haha.

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Good explanation and all, but I still felt the escapism vibe from the first episode. I didn't come away with a positive outlook like you did. Though what you said can be true, I just need a few more episodes to go off of before saying I agree with you or not.

I don't want to say your wrong because that's a good way of looking at it, but I didn't get that impression whatsoever.

Yeah no worries, I can see it your way as well.

It's fairly interpretive at this point, we'll need more data to make more reinforced arguments either way.
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