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True.
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Japanese xenophobia biting them in the rear. At least that's one theory.

I've also heard that some theorists are seriously attempt to manufacture artificial Japanese people, Apparently robots (as long as they are Japanese robots) would be preferable to Koreans or Vietnamese or Chinese. At least that's what I've heard on this topic before.
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:

Japanese xenophobia biting them in the rear. At least that's one theory.

I've also heard that some theorists are seriously attempt to manufacture artificial Japanese people, Apparently robots (as long as they are Japanese robots) would be preferable to Koreans or Vietnamese or Chinese. At least that's what I've heard on this topic before.


That one weird theory then again, the fear for Japan is that if they open there doors to everyone, their cultural integrity would be lost.
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I don't see why not immigration. A falling population rate means nothing. It's easy to counter.
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aListers wrote:

I don't see why not immigration. A falling population rate means nothing. It's easy to counter.


What Japan is trying do is preserve there Culture by not letting people immigrate there. The fact the Western influence has already entered in already makes them worry about their culture. (in this case there manga and anime) As for that Western influence, its too strong handle for a small country in terms of there living space.
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As long as productivity doesn't get affected and Japan can guarantee jobs for their people I don't see a problem, I'm from Mexico with a population that is growing I'm kinda scared that there won't be enough for everyone.
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Women in Japan are more ambitious. Got no time for kids. Maybe that's it.
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The problem is that Japanese people are too smart to have large families. They need to lose some IQ, then they can breed like bunnies like some demographics in the states.
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Its all those virtual girlfriends and 2D love thats going on! I dont blame them since 2D people are more attractive and wont hurt your feelings.
But seriously, I think that its just a communication problem also at fault. We rely on technology to the point that we forgot how to talk to one another. I feel like its getting more awkward to talk on the phone which isn't a good sign!
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It's not that women in Japan are "more ambitious" or are waiting only for that "special someone," as other posters have mentioned. It's because the economic system in Japan is simply not friendly to women. Women in Japan have plenty of legal rights (most of which are the result of the American-imposed Constitution), but a lot of the written rights do not translate into reality, unfortunately, for women in Japan because of enduring patriarchal traditions and lack of enforcement (for example, the Equal Employment Opportunity Act provides absolutely no provision for the actual enforcement of its purpose). As a result, such ideologies, though becoming more outdated, such as the "good wife, wise mother" and the "education mama" that were once very popular in Japan continue to hold sway. This causes domesticity to continue to be considered the number 1 job of women and their place in the kitchen.

Yet more and more women in Japan are, in fact, entering the workforce both out of necessity (especially as the population grows older and older; after all, Japanese value the concept of the family unit and the elderly certainly aren't paying the bills themselves) and because, like women everywhere, they have personal ambitions. However, like I mentioned before, the workplace is just not conducive to supporting both the career woman and the mother woman because of such things as lack of adequate maternity leave and child care services, and the fathers in such situations often refuse to do similar things (staying home and taking care of the kids, etc.) because it would hurt their man pride due to deeply engrained notions of masculinity that depict the male as the "bread winner." Also, if women are granted maternity leave, they usually cannot return to work and just pick up where they left off because 1) employers typically view women as merely temporary workers since it is expected they will one day go on to have children and leave (this has resulted in the infamous M-curve) and 2) Japanese tradition condemns mothers for 'abandoning' their children to go to work (yet that same criticism does not exist toward men).

This has made life for Japanese women a matter of having a family OR a career, not both. But as more and more women go to college and receive proper educations, of course they won't want to sacrifice their hard earned degrees, their hard earned careers, just so they can satisfy the archaic notion of female obligation to rear children. After all, could you imagine a man doing something like that? Going to Tokyo University (the most prestigious university in Japan) and then saying, OH WAIT scratch being a lawyer I think I need to be a father now; yet this is what is expected of most Japanese women. The enduring emphasis on female domesticity is clearly seen when looking at the gender composition of the universities in Japan (for example, the student body of Tokyo University is CURRENTLY 82% male!!!! Women instead go to "junior colleges," which only last for 2-3 years and typically specialize in more 'feminine' fields, like literature). It sucks, it's awful, but this is the reality. Until Japan does something about making the workplace an equal place for men and women, the rigid choice between family OR career will persist, and women will probably continue to choose career first (I know I would).







Ahh, sorry for this long, long novel-length post. But I promise it's not an unfounded rant, I would be happy to point people to very interesting and credible sources if they are interested in this topic, just send me a message
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I heard it's because of their sex industry. People would rather pay for fake or virtual relationships because it's easier, and with an alternative like that, real relationships have become less desirable or not as necessary to fulfill their needs. It's kinda sad though, but it might be a normal way of thinking over there. A real social issue.
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At least they aren't overpopulating...
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Based on several documentaries and a bit of theory, it's a multifaceted problem.

There are times I call Japan "Super-America" because they have similar capitalist trends - only they go much further than ours. Most people in Japan will never own a home, or have children because it's too expensive. Much of the real estate is entrenched by the Yakuza or sheer cost. People aren't packed into the cities because they want to be, nor because there is no room.

If you leave aside the "grass-eating/herbivore" boys, which is basically a rejection of the macho patriarchal culture that was forced on them, Japan has successfully monetized every aspect of a relationship. Piecemeal. If you want sex, there's that. If you want conversation, or cuddling, or toys, or a cosplay date, or a virtual mate, there are those things too. People can take the aspects of a relationship they want, pay for them, and be done with it. Very efficient, and very bad for increasing a population.

I'm sure 1 out of every 10 Japanese women having been in the adult industry has a psychological impact.

Thus, as far as I know, there are very few incentives for two people to build a life together in Japan. What you don't have, you can buy, if you're even interested in the first place. I've heard many ex-pats say that you can integrate fairly well into Japan as a foreigner, but there's always this wall that never comes down, even if you're Japanese but born someplace else, even if you speak the language and know the customs flawlessly. I don't even want to think about what all those old Japanese people would think about all the little half-Japanese babies.
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Hayagriva wrote:

Based on several documentaries and a bit of theory, it's a multifaceted problem.

There are times I call Japan "Super-America" because they have similar capitalist trends - only they go much further than ours. Most people in Japan will never own a home, or have children because it's too expensive. Much of the real estate is entrenched by the Yakuza or sheer cost. People aren't packed into the cities because they want to be, nor because there is no room.

If you leave aside the "grass-eating/herbivore" boys, which is basically a rejection of the macho patriarchal culture that was forced on them, Japan has successfully monetized every aspect of a relationship. Piecemeal. If you want sex, there's that. If you want conversation, or cuddling, or toys, or a cosplay date, or a virtual mate, there are those things too. People can take the aspects of a relationship they want, pay for them, and be done with it. Very efficient, and very bad for increasing a population.

I'm sure 1 out of every 10 Japanese women having been in the adult industry has a psychological impact.

Thus, as far as I know, there are very few incentives for two people to build a life together in Japan. What you don't have, you can buy, if you're even interested in the first place. I've heard many ex-pats say that you can integrate fairly well into Japan as a foreigner, but there's always this wall that never comes down, even if you're Japanese but born someplace else, even if you speak the language and know the customs flawlessly. I don't even want to think about what all those old Japanese people would think about all the little half-Japanese babies.


Being that this is multifaceted problem and that Corporate Japan just makes it harder for women to both a career and a child at same time, I can see your point. As for immigration, I don't think they are willing to make a jump for it.
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They'll figure something out before it becomes a huge problem.
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