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Posted 3/23/14
I have what people call "an Authority Problem" I have a hard time with people who think just because they were there first, or that they are hired to an 'elevated position' etc etc. that they are somehow due respect that normally wouldn't be given to anyone else. Just because. Causes a lot of issues for me.

I'm a reasonable guy, but I don't need to "drag anyone down". If you want respect, earn it. Simple. Demanding respect will often make me lose any patience I have for someone. Continuation of unreasonable demands for things that should be earned, just urges forth violence.

For those "below" I have no feelings to help them, as there is no real below. There are just pessimists who think they are below.
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Phersu wrote:


justanotherguy_2005 wrote:

There aren't any people above me and the people below me deserve to be there. So no, I suppose not.


High five for big egos!




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Gasp. That's where my Eggos were. Leggo.
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Wrong Thread Title -__-
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I used to try to pull people below me up, but they resist every goddamn inch of the way, so now I let them stay where they want. I don't pay attention to people above me because the relationship is irrelevant unless they're where I want to be (which is extremely rare).

There is a third group of people - people who think they're above you, but aren't. I generally ignore them, but sometimes I pull them down with great alacrity, for feeding purposes. Hey, I'm doing them a favor - when I succeed, if they're really superior they'll see where they truly are, and they can work on that. You can't do that with a false image of your position. Besides, it's pretty easy in a world filled with people who think they're intelligent because Wikipedia exists.
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Equality or fairness is a fundamental equation. Often in life the two are mutually exclusive.

With equality, the majority of people will enjoy the goods and services that society provides equally. Since it’s distribution based rather than contribution based, most will have a similar standard of living simply because the level mark is lowered by its very nature. Some will be forced to contribute more than others.

Fairness is focused on access to opportunity and freedom to achieve. On the positive side, a higher standard of living can be quite an incentive, on the downside, some in society will be left behind and others will look to take competitive advantage.

I choose fairness over equality. The challenge is in using it as a competitive platform, available to all. It’s not a question of whether or not someone becomes affluent or not, but whether they had an opportunity given their work ethic and willingness to take risk.
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Not to mention opportunity cost and the efficiency of the price system. Profits incentivize people to produce stuff that other people want. Stuff that is more profitable is more wanted by people, or more valued in society. Losses tell people not to produce a certain thing (because not enough people need it, want it, or are willing to pay for it). If there were no profits and losses, then nobody would have a clue about what they ought to produce, leading to a lower standard of living for everybody.

Also, consider this scenario:
You are a manager of General Motors, and you have to decide whether or not you want to build your latest model car by using copper or iron. For the sake of simplicity, assume that copper and iron are equally useful for building the car, with neither resulting in a difference in quality. Now, for the sake of understanding, also assume that the copper is both scarcer and more demanded of (more needed by others) than iron, which is more plentiful and less demanded of. In a market with no barriers to trade, copper would be more expensive than iron, so as a manager of General Motors, you would choose to use iron instead of copper to reduce costs (and we are assuming that iron and copper are equally useful for building a car). This is efficient because you are using the resource that is most plentiful and least needed by others. In a command economy, there are no prices, or all prices are set by the government rather than supply and demand, so those prices are meaningless. In such an economy, the choice for the central planner between using copper or iron would simply be a flip of the coin. If copper is used, then it will be even scarcer than it was before.

This is merely an explanation of the importance of market prices as a requirement for reducing waste. What I'd also like to get across, however, is that there are no qualities that can make any person superior or inferior to another. Qualities like productivity, looks, intelligence, success, etc. are just qualities. They are mere descriptions of a person that do not have any place in measuring value. The fact that people are different is no reason for someone to erase these differences and make them "equal." People are people, and that's that. Just enjoy your own life.
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Well, like, astronauts got it made, ya, cause they always be above you.
More seriously, It isn't like a person can be "better" at existing.

You might think being able to do a bunch of stuff is really useful, but having a doctorate in astrophysics means nothing if you're stranded in a desert. I suppose you want to think in hierarchies though, so, well, help those below you, and help those above you, and help yourself. Be nice to people, and they'll usually be nice back.
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Posted 3/23/14

Genbu89 wrote:

I would not want to drag others down or bring others up. Then we'd have some Harrison Bergeron-type shit going on, and nobody wants that.

Equality and justice may be mere illusions, but that doesn't mean we can't strive to make our own ideals a reality. It'll never happen, but that's why they're ideals.


there is no real definition of Equality nor Justice you can only come up with Examples of them two
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Well, for those who are above me, I do not really mind as long as they do not have huge egos. As for those below me ( can't really think of any examples) I would think that pity would not help them.
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either way you have to have some type of leadership so no true equality even forced will happen, just think thats stupid to think that way, if one person works harder then someone who is doing nothing, I think the harder working guy deserves more. Thats all I have to say
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Uncrowned_Otaku wrote:

I just want women to stop complaining about how hard it is to be a girl gamer. It's games! there is nothing hard about it, get over it ladies! *drops the mic*


-Picks it back up and throws it at you.- You forgot this!
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Posted 3/25/14

Phersu wrote:


Uncrowned_Otaku wrote:

I just want women to stop complaining about how hard it is to be a girl gamer. It's games! there is nothing hard about it, get over it ladies! *drops the mic*


-Picks it back up and throws it at you.- You forgot this!


oh thanks but I was finished with it
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It depends. If those above me have earned the position they are in, I have no desire to drag them down to my level. However, if they have attained their position through kissing ass and other underhanded tactics, I would love to kick them down to the lowest rung of the ladder. Similarly, if a person below me has continuously busted his or her ass without reward or recognition and is deserving of a promotion, I would be more than happy to pull them up to or above my level.
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