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ESO : To buy or not to buy
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Soo ESO is going to be out soon and i am thinking of playing it. Tried the first beta and the horrible water mark with your email all over the screen killed the beta experience and i didn't even bothered to try out the other betas. So i am just wondering how much more improved and fleshed out is the last beta before the release, and how does stealth work in game ? I like playing Stealth in Elder scroll games.

Would like to hear the opinions of other people.
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ESO is bad, very bad, and most definitely not worth buying.
Posted 3/27/14
I played in the first beta as well and hated it. It wasn't even the watermark that did it for me it just all seemed poorly executed with combat among other more minor issues. I stopped participating in the beta after that and they will never get a penny from me for the game. They could even make it FTP and I would still avoid it like the plague. A shame too since I really enjoy the other Elder Scrolls games.
Posted 3/28/14 , edited 3/28/14
I played all through the beta. I agree that it was pretty fartspastic at the beginning of beta, but because either I was curious enough or patient enough to "wait-and-see," I stuck with the subsequent betas (this is why it's called a beta; because they want to test some things while the game is still in active development).

It improved quite a bit over the course - so much so, that I purchased the Imperial Digital Edition. Quite a few friends are playing, and one (whom I haven't played online with yet, ever, but is a long-time friend of my husband) has a good-sized guild going in to play it, too.

Some things to consider before buying into this game:

1) Having played other Bethesda games before and liked them (especially other Elder Scrolls games) will greatly increase your chances of enjoying this MMORPG. The lore is sound, albeit in the distant past. If you were craving more backstory upon completing all the Elder Scrolls games, well, here it is. If you wished these games could keep on keepin' on, here it does.

2) Because it is an MMORPG, it isn't (yet) capable of executing all the nuances of variability and detail that Skyrim can. Also, no dragons (yet). *sniff*

3) Having played other MMORPG's is... a mixed bag: Many game mechanics are similar and familiar, while others are completely foreign (unless you've also played other Bethesda/Elder Scrolls games) so it can skew your experience one way or the other - YMMV. At least there will be mods, if you insist upon a minimap.

4) It isn't Free to Play. Therein lies the biggest barrier for many. If you do not have the discretionary income to commit the initial cost, plus the monthly subscription, don't play it. Guild Wars 2 is a fine MMORPG game that only requires the initial purchase, with lots of microtransaction options that are indeed optional.

Whoops, forgot to answer the stealth question! If you played other Elder Scrolls games, it works about the same: It isn't class, armor, or racially- dependent, however there are skills associated with improved stealth and crit bonuses for being stealthed that can be found not just in the class skill lines. That's right - just about every damn thing has skills in which you may invest points to tweak stealth, armor enchants, potions to craft... If you wanted to make stealth your main raison de'être, select the race (Khajiit), armor (medium), weapon set (dual wield and/or bow, I believe), Class and class skill set (Nightblade Shadow skills), Mundus Stone buff... it simply goes on and on.

Head over to http://ESOhead.com and toy with their skill calculator, if you enjoy theorycrafting.
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Posted 3/28/14
Everyone I know who has played it says it was really unfulfilling and i shouldn't buy it
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Posted 3/28/14
I got into a bunch of beta weekends but never had a chance to put any real time in. I've got friends who enjoyed it and already preordered though. The main thing keeping me from playing is that I can't afford $60 + $15 a month.
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Posted 3/28/14
All the constantly bad mmos coming out burning me out on mmos.
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Posted 3/28/14
From what people have been saying it looks like it was very over-hyped. I asked a few people and they said it very boring. It doesn't seem like a bad game, but I don't think it'll be a very good game either. If it was just $60 I would probably buy it but the ridiculous pricing is the main reason why I wont. $60 plus $15 monthly (after the first month) is just dumb, especially from a game everyone is saying is over-hyped and no better than a f2p mmorpg.
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If you want it to be a "Skyrim Multiplayer" Then don't waste your time. I've been in a lot of beta weekends and I have had a lot of fun with it. Admittedly the start game can be somewhat of a drag, but I've already preordered and have high hopes for the end game and pvp.

It's a great MMO from what I have played, just everyone expected it to be something it never was meant to be for whatever reason...
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Posted 3/29/14

justanotherguy_2005 wrote:

I played in the first beta as well and hated it. It wasn't even the watermark that did it for me it just all seemed poorly executed with combat among other more minor issues. I stopped participating in the beta after that and they will never get a penny from me for the game. They could even make it FTP and I would still avoid it like the plague. A shame too since I really enjoy the other Elder Scrolls games.


You played a beta game and are complaining about bugs and issues. That's really stupid, especially if it really was the first beta. You seriously expected the beta to run perfectly? What do you think a beta is? It's to test for those bugs you found so they can fix them.

In a beta youre not a player, youre a tester. Please use your brain.
Posted 3/29/14 , edited 3/29/14

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justanotherguy_2005 wrote:

I played in the first beta as well and hated it. It wasn't even the watermark that did it for me it just all seemed poorly executed with combat among other more minor issues. I stopped participating in the beta after that and they will never get a penny from me for the game. They could even make it FTP and I would still avoid it like the plague. A shame too since I really enjoy the other Elder Scrolls games.


You played a beta game and are complaining about bugs and issues. That's really stupid, especially if it really was the first beta. You seriously expected the beta to run perfectly? What do you think a beta is? It's to test for those bugs you found so they can fix them.

In a beta youre not a player, youre a tester. Please use your brain.


I'm sorry. Maybe you should read my post again. I never mentioned bugs. I have participated in many betas. I know what to expect and never hold bugs against them. I know what it is all about. I said I felt it was poorly executed with combat among other more minor issues. That means I did not like the way the game played and felt while playing it. That is not a bug issue. It is just the way the game was designed. If they reworked their combat system I would give it another try but I highly doubt they will. The other issues as I said were minor so I won't bother expanding upon those.
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You're still judging the game on one play session in early beta. The combat in eso is way less clunky than it was in early beta.

I would say the combat is better than most standard mmo's.
Posted 3/29/14

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You're still judging the game on one play session in early beta. The combat in eso is way less clunky than it was in early beta.

I would say the combat is better than most standard mmo's.


Yes, I am. The combat system would need to be redesigned almost entirely for it to be the the kind that I like in an MMO. It isn't the worst that I have experienced, that honor goes to The Secret World, but it still just isn't one that I want to play with. Like I said though, if they did indeed change it enough I would give it another try but there were other things that bothered me about the game. These days an MMO would have to be almost perfect, off of my preferences, for me to want to pay monthly for it. There are way too many free options out there that I have less issue with than I did with ESO and so I would just rather go play those instead of paying for a game that will cause irritation over those other minor things.
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Posted 3/29/14

justanotherguy_2005 wrote:


Allync wrote:



You're still judging the game on one play session in early beta. The combat in eso is way less clunky than it was in early beta.

I would say the combat is better than most standard mmo's.


Yes, I am. The combat system would need to be redesigned almost entirely for it to be the the kind that I like in an MMO. It isn't the worst that I have experienced, that honor goes to The Secret World, but it still just isn't one that I want to play with. Like I said though, if they did indeed change it enough I would give it another try but there were other things that bothered me about the game. These days an MMO would have to be almost perfect, off of my preferences, for me to want to pay monthly for it. There are way too many free options out there that I have less issue with than I did with ESO and so I would just rather go play those instead of paying for a game that will cause irritation over those other minor things.


Then don't say it's not well executed because for the most part it is. (besides some of the projectile weapons) Something being poorly executed and something you just don't like are completely different.
Posted 3/29/14 , edited 3/29/14

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Then don't say it's not well executed because for the most part it is. (besides some of the projectile weapons) Something being poorly executed and something you just don't like are completely different.


Considering I only wanted to play characters that were ranged and played them most it was the only impression I got is that it was poorly executed. The melee that I did play still wasn't all that great though. In the end though, I don't like it and I do feel it was poorly executed. You have your opinion though and I have mine. It's quite simple.
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