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Post Reply My favorite psychological and/or philosophical anime is___________
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hmm I guess Humanity Has Declined the more i think about this. I am not really sure though. Really liked Steins; Gate though hmmmmm

Edit: Decided to go with Steins;Gate as the favorite. I still think Humanity has Declined is still up there with other anime I probably can't come up with in my head at the moment
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Sacae89 wrote:
The only ones that really fit is Blast of Tempest, and lesser Toradora for purely psych part of title of thread - due to its look at self and also relationship psych.

You're right in a sense, but what I'm doing is essentially disagreeing with the idea that "psychological/philosophical" can be a genre.

Every anime has explore psychology of the characters and ever show has its own philosophy that it promotes.

So, in that sense, all anime is psychological and philosophical, and thus my answers here are the same as my answers to what my favorite anime are.


I kind of disagree with disagreeing here. If that makes sense.

A story can have romance, and not be an romance story. But then there are also Romance Stories. In a sense.

There's a difference between every story can have something, and a story being part of a genre.

Yes I agree that every anime explore psychology - heck every story in any form of entertainment does that. It explores humans and represents their elements.

But it can still be a genre and there are some anime that can fit that genre alot more than others.
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iblessall wrote:



You want to know my real answers?

Blast of Tempest, Toradora!, Angel Beats!, Gurren Lagann, The Devil is a Part-Timer!, Black Rock Shooter and now Silver Spoon.

I'm not trolling this time. I'm truly dead serious.

Philosophical isn't just a mind screw. There are all types of philosophies, and like Insomnist said, this thread is going to be highly personal.

Those anime I just listed preach philosophies that I espouse and can promote.



How about this then. If you propose a show as having a philosophy, you have to try to define what that philosophy actually means to you.

I'll go first:

Gatchaman:Crowds presents very strong positions about fear and aggression vs acceptance in resolving conflicts. It gets extra points as a 'philosophical show' by deconstructing, or at least subverting common tropes and narratives in pop culture, and especially anime. It has a strong point of view and a position it's putting.

To do another one, Haibane Renmei asserts a strong position about the nature of guilt and redemption, with a specific focus on needing to seek forgiveness both from yourself and others. I'd describe it as a philosophical show.

Third one: Lain is a meditation on existence and identity. Not sure if it actually has a narrative point though.
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Gintama of course

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lol I dont know if I just made sense. It made sense in my head at the time.
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Sacae89 wrote:
I kind of disagree with disagreeing here. If that makes sense.

A story can have romance, and not be an romance story. But then there are also Romance Stories. In a sense.

There's a difference between every story can have something, and a story being part of a genre.

Yes I agree that every anime explore psychology - heck every story in any form of entertainment does that. It explores humans and represents their elements.

But it can still be a genre and there are some anime that can fit that genre alot more than others.

I don't totally disagree with you, as I'm somewhat just being a bit belligerent because I'm tried...

DEMO! psychology and philosophy are infinitely and inextricably tied up in the human condition. You actually can't make a show without them. You can make a show without romance, action, etc, etc, etc.

But you must, nay you will have a philosophy to the show, and you will have to explore psychology.

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How about this then. If you propose a show as having a philosophy, you have to try to define what that philosophy actually means to you.

I'll go first:

Gatchaman:Crowds presents very strong positions about fear and aggression vs acceptance in resolving conflicts. It gets extra points as a 'philosophical show' by deconstructing, or at least subverting common tropes and narratives in pop culture, and especially anime. It has a strong point of view and a position it's putting.

To do another one, Haibane Renmei asserts a strong position about the nature of guilt and redemption, with a specific focus on needing to seek forgiveness both from yourself and others. I'd describe it as a philosophical show.

Third one: Lain is a meditation on existence and identity. Not sure if it actually has a narrative point though.

Yeesh, work. :P

I'll just do the one that probably is the oddest duck out.

The Devil is a Part-Timer!: affirms the dignity of work and also states (directly) that the necessities of life are all that are really required for happiness.

The direct statement comes from Urushiharu in the second the last episode, but I suck at quoting. It's when he's punching out Olba. I always mess it up, but I'll try and paraphrase it: "Sometimes heaven on earth can be found in a two room flat."
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Steins;Gate without a doubt. By far, one of the best animes I've ever seen.



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Mirai Nikki/Future Diary! ( My favorite)


Mirai Nikki was indeed good. Yuno is the best yandere in existence.
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Insomnist wrote:

Now, ironically: I just wish someone would tell me what it means.


That reality is just as confusing as virtual reality.

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Yea...you can have a story without romance.

And I agree that psychology and philosophy are tied up in the human condition and thus are in every story.

But I feel strongly that certain stories, thus anime, can promote psychology and philosophy more so than others.

I didn't pick Psycho-Pass or Kino's Journey for the 'mind-screw'. I don't define this genre by that.

Both these animes promote a platform to study certain elements of the human condiction each episode and ask you different questions, silently, each episode.

I got the urge to think about these more and they are written in such a way that it is a core element I think.

How about this? I felt each episode kind of asked me a different question, and the whole story also had underline questions.

But most other animes ask you one question in different ways.

Kuroko's Basketball questions the value of winning, what a game is meant to be played, and so forth. With different viewpoints on that element.


:/ I dont know if Im making sense, lol sorry.
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The Melody of Oblivion :
Is an exploration of the frailty and greed of humanity. Every episode explores some form of fear, jealousy, and greed. The moral of the story is the Sith philosophy that peace is a lie, and that war promotes stability. If we ever eliminate everything that threatens us, we are bound to threaten ourselves, and thus humanity requires a common enemy, a common fear to keep it under check, because that common enemy is a lesser evil than we ourselves are when left to our own greed.

Casshern Sins - It's an exploration of humanity's need to rely on a higher power and its demise should that power disappear. It then proceeds to explore the fears and hardships people go through at the end of the world. Actually now that I think about it, the structure of Casshern Sins' story is very similar to that of season 1 of Magic Knight Rayearth. Actually, it's the same. Emeraude = Luna, the Magic Knights = Casshern.

Full Metal Alchemist (Not Brotherhood) - Equal Exchange. For every good thing that happens in this show, something really F'ed up happens in exchange. Brotherhood usually has a net gain, the original FMA though is constantly kept at 0, its losses always balance out its gains.

One Piece - This is not a philosophical anime all in all, but it does have one specific philosophy that I people may not have noticed, and this philosophy has pretty much been prevalent throughout the whole show, and Luffy is the embodiment of this philosophy. It's best summed up by the lyrics : "Do what you want cuz a pirate is free!" Seriously, that is the theme of this show, do whatever the hell you want, don't let the authorities or anyone tell you what you should be doing.
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Bakemonogatari. Really makes you think.
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Not my favorite, but The Legend of Mahjong: Akagi

You can google "Psychological anime" and find countless lists. You know, if you want to watch a ton of reccommendations and the like. Same goes from Philosophical anime titles, as well.
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Wait...not Brotherhood?
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Wait...not Brotherhood?


Brotherhood was not nearly as philosophical as the original. Like I said Brotherhood had quite a few net gains, and had some real feel good moments. The original one on the other hand always had gains followed by losses, it was very faithful to its philosophy of equal exchange. It even ended with you feeling kind of disappointed because the protagonists did not necessarily get a happy ending, though it wasn't a sad ending either. They were in a more or less equal but different position than they were at the beginning of the series. The fact that there was no real net gain in happiness leaves the viewer with an odd taste in their mouth and most people didn't like that.

Brotherhood had a really happy ending. Things were lost, but in the end there was quite a bit of net gain. You felt better for watching it.
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