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Watching subbed anime in Japan?
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...Well, I certainly don't know how to obsess myself with a language lol.
You don't obsess yourself with a foreign language. You spend all your time on it because you ARE obsessed with it in the first place. You can't force it. You are obsessed or you aren't.
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When i'm Japan i always use VPN. normaly i spend more time outside when i'm Japan

Best you can do i use ProxMate it free works on google chrome and it support Crunchyroll so can still support Crunchroll and anime.

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RedExodus wrote:
...Well, I certainly don't know how to obsess myself with a language lol.
You don't obsess yourself with a foreign language. You spend all your time on it because you ARE obsessed with it in the first place. You can't force it. You are obsessed or you aren't.


Truth! I get so frustrated when there are visual novels, video games, manga, light novels that i just cannot read without translations.
I need to commit myself to learn the language since these things do mean a lot to me. Give me lessons, hpulley! lmao
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Seems most people here have at least a passing interest in the language but choose not to learn it due to rumors of its difficulty or unwillingness to make the time.

Meanwhile, there are many people deemed less intelligible walking around being fluent at 5+ languages while regular people complain about not being able to learn 1 due to "bad" memory. Kind of ironic.
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Learning a foreign language is hardly a small undertaking though; especially if you want to do it well (i.e. thinking in the said language as well as speaking, writing, etc.). For some people it comes more naturally; often for people who grew up at least bilingual. An obsession obviously helps, as the key to learning a language is exposure to the need to use it.

Anyway; to the point. There's no need to be condescending to people who don't aren't learning another language. You may think of them as lazy, but at the end of the day it is up to time.

As for subtitles in Japan: OP, your only options for good coverage are a VPN, or downloading from non-official sources. I think a VPN would be best, at least morally. I'm sure some argument could be made that it is against ToS, but you are technically accessing the service/s from a country in which they provide them.
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You lucky SOB!!!

I envy his ability, but when I think about the time it would take to learn Japanese well enough to do that, I think "Nope, I'm good".



I can watch some animes in raw, like K-On and still laugh at the jokes XD
And I've only learned through anime.
Though most of the japanese language sounds like jibberish to me still
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...Truth! I get so frustrated when there are visual novels, video games, manga, light novels that i just cannot read without translations.
I need to commit myself to learn the language since these things do mean a lot to me. Give me lessons, hpulley! lmao
You just need to turn that frustration into inspiration. That is how it started for me, with a Japanese copy of Gunnm v1 銃夢第一巻 in 1995. That was seinen manga so that immediately meant having to learn kanji. It would have been better to pick up some shounen with furigana but I didn't realize that at the time...

For you, pick the thing you really want to read or play. Visual novels, video games, manga or light novels will change my advice slightly. Shounen or shoujo manga is the easiest to start with.

But we're far off topic now for watching subbed anime in Japan which was about the last thing I considered.

Like someone else said above, when I'm in Japan I mostly... enjoy Japan! I meant to do reading on the train and such but I spoke with people instead for the most part and similarly I either hung out with people evenings or weekends or I enjoyed parks and hiking (Yama no Susume!). Ironically, I watch more anime and read more Japanese books when I'm at home. When I can't sleep in Japan especially during the first week, late night anime is good on TV but it lacks subs of course. Ganbatte ne!
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hpulley wrote:


GoldTStar wrote:
...Truth! I get so frustrated when there are visual novels, video games, manga, light novels that i just cannot read without translations.
I need to commit myself to learn the language since these things do mean a lot to me. Give me lessons, hpulley! lmao
You just need to turn that frustration into inspiration. That is how it started for me, with a Japanese copy of Gunnm v1 銃夢第一巻 in 1995. That was seinen manga so that immediately meant having to learn kanji. It would have been better to pick up some shounen with furigana but I didn't realize that at the time...

For you, pick the thing you really want to read or play. Visual novels, video games, manga or light novels will change my advice slightly. Shounen or shoujo manga is the easiest to start with.

But we're far off topic now for watching subbed anime in Japan which was about the last thing I considered.

Like someone else said above, when I'm in Japan I mostly... enjoy Japan! I meant to do reading on the train and such but I spoke with people instead for the most part and similarly I either hung out with people evenings or weekends or I enjoyed parks and hiking (Yama no Susume!). Ironically, I watch more anime and read more Japanese books when I'm at home. When I can't sleep in Japan especially during the first week, late night anime is good on TV but it lacks subs of course. Ganbatte ne!


Frustration into inspiration... I like that...

Sadly, I have nothing I can offer to the topic that hasn't already been said -- and plus I'm not as familiar with most things in Japan to really... you know... give a proper answer.

Anyway, I think we should make a Foreign Language thread, if everyone wants to continue what the topic verred off to, if there isn't one already.

As for your (hpulley) first "taste" of the language, as it were --- Gunnm eh? Love it. I got the original series and what's been released for Last Order so far. Wish I could read Tetsuwan Birdy II though...
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Shrapnel893 wrote:
...Anyway, I think we should make a Foreign Language thread, if everyone wants to continue what the topic verred off to, if there isn't one already.

As for your (hpulley) first "taste" of the language, as it were --- Gunnm eh? Love it. I got the original series and what's been released for Last Order so far. Wish I could read Tetsuwan Birdy II though...
There is a Japan forum... doesn't get nearly as much traffic as the Anime forum of course.

Tetsuwan Birdy II you say... the rest of the Gunnm books are off left out of frame:
https://flic.kr/p/mD9jgg
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Learning a foreign language is hardly a small undertaking though; especially if you want to do it well (i.e. thinking in the said language as well as speaking, writing, etc.). For some people it comes more naturally; often for people who grew up at least bilingual. An obsession obviously helps, as the key to learning a language is exposure to the need to use it.

Anyway; to the point. There's no need to be condescending to people who don't aren't learning another language. You may think of them as lazy, but at the end of the day it is up to time.

As for subtitles in Japan: OP, your only options for good coverage are a VPN, or downloading from non-official sources. I think a VPN would be best, at least morally. I'm sure some argument could be made that it is against ToS, but you are technically accessing the service/s from a country in which they provide them.


I probably accidentally came off as crude with that message but I meant it for those who do want to learn and have tried but came to meet opposition, 'cuz I'm the same. I personally think it's better to fail and regret than to never try and regret but I have nothing against people who decides language learning isn't their cup of tea.

More on words of encouragement, what most successful polyglots openly promote is that language learning isn't intellectually difficult at all, just taking emotional beatings is. For most people learning their first foreign language, it's hard because they haven't found their language path yet. After climbing the first mountain, they can climb the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and so on. Figuring out how to make that L2 relatively smooth sailing is doable though.

Armed with the internet and modern language learning wisdom, language learning isn't easy but it doesn't deserve to be feared either.
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hpulley wrote:

There is a Japan forum... doesn't get nearly as much traffic as the Anime forum of course.

Tetsuwan Birdy you say... the rest of the Gunnm books are off left out of frame:
https://flic.kr/p/djJn57


Yeah, you posted the same picture before. When we were talking about manga volumes, I mentioned Tetsuwan. You were all "On Snap, you mean this?! *posts picture* and I was all "Yeah, man!".

The only Japanese manga I own is Cimoc (as is spelled on cover) or better-known as Koimoku. I wanted a title by Dall-Young Lim (well, more like written by). Which, now that I think about it, I should have gotten Black God since it's available in English or any of the French editions (since most of his works are licensed in France as well), since I can actually read a tiny bit of French (got more of a shot with it than Japanese, anyhow )... Freezing was too expensive to import... sadly...

Ah well...
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Yeah, you posted the same picture before. When we were talking about manga volumes, I mentioned Tetsuwan. You were all "On Snap, you mean this?! *posts picture* and I was all "Yeah, man!".
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Uh oh, repeating myself already. With that I gracelessly exit the thread... though I'm quite certain this exact question has also been asked several times before.
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