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Japan, Anime & Rest of the world
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Posted 4/3/14 , edited 4/3/14
haha, to be honest, I don't want this to become more popular than it already is xD It is very selfish of me yes, but I feel like I'm apart of something special when we are the minority that watch something that everyone else can't stand, which makes it just that much more fun :P

But of course I see what you're getting at, but I want to clarify one thing, people who call themselves an "Japanese animation only fan" are most of the time talking about the style and the, umm, (weirdness?) of anime xD That's what identifies with most anime fans, not that it's made in Japan.

But I don't think that "anime" has been done well by the west yet, not RWBY, which is the one I've only seen, I haven't seen that other one (avatar the last airbender) they haven't got that (weirdness) that we all know and love when it comes to "Japanese anime" which is what I love, the weirdness! xD

What I think you're trying to say is, that you are feeling like anime is getting more popular, the weirdness that has been creeping all those people out, is steadily declining, (because they saw the awesome pantyshots and great harems!*nosarcasmintended*) and that's basically it, people are beginning to accept it more and more, rather than when everyone would be called a "hentai freak" or something just by watching Code Geass or Naruto.
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Posted 4/3/14
So here's another question to think about: Is Anime still seen as Japanese animation even when the artwork and animation studios are all done entirely in other countries, like South Korea?

I've seen this trend going on in many "Japanese" anime that I've been watching lately. It's most apparent when the credits roll and you start seeing that half or even all of the animators are Korean. The story might come from Japan but the artwork were all done by non-Japanese artists.
Posted 4/3/14
I don't understand what point you're trying to make. It's just something you watch. Why is there any need for some form of exclusivity or even some kind of distinction regarding what's made where?
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Posted 4/3/14

demongurrl13 wrote:

I don't understand what point you're trying to make. It's just something you watch. Why is there any need for some form of exclusivity or even some kind of distinction regarding what's made where?


lol Exactly. Although, I think I should be elaborate a bit more by saying that I find Anime more as a distinct style rather than being region-locked. It makes a lot more sense that way.
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Posted 4/4/14
Several things.

First of all, most of your anime isn't really from Japan. Key frames where characters are still, or slow, are drawn in Japan. The faster frames are outsourced (I'm not joking) to countries like Korea and China for production reasons.

Secondly, if you set aside Japan being the country that publicly embraces anime the most, the last I checked they're the only country with professional-grade schooling for it (I'm sure this will change, if it hasn't already). So it's mostly been their thing because they largely do not suck at drawing it.

And of course, as I've said elsewhere, while there's Japanese culture in anime, there are a lot of elements in it that Japan WISHES they had in their culture, just like any other country with their own animation/comic/superhero culture.

I did a research project out of boredom once to figure out why America imports basically all of it's anime/manga. I assume it's the same with most other countries. Results were interesting, I might go hunt down those notes for a later time.
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Posted 4/4/14
If anime was only from Japan, why in half the anime credits I've seen are there Korean surnames?
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Posted 5/16/14
Well I think somethings have to be from japan they created this sort of style that later became anime. I don't think that it could ever be a world wide thing. I mean there are other types of animations in the west, but those won't ever be close to the style that I enjoy. Take the Disney animations or shows like Family Guy they don't have the same grasp and feel that anime does. Anime does something that most other types of animations don't do. They add actual characters with their own personalities and a story line that's actually going somewhere. (Well most of the time they do)
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Posted 5/16/14
Gintama is one of those animes that should probably be for Japan only. Because most of the references flew right over my head until I looked it up
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I really do see anime as more of a "style" than just from Japan. ATLA to me is anime because of the style, the HUGE Asian background and I do believe it was mostly animated in South Korea. So even though the idea, story line and characters where in the USA... most of the animation was done in South Korea, is it considered anime now? Oooor are there still Weebs who stick their noses up because it isn't from Japan and will claim Japan is better than pretty much everywhere else?
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Posted 5/16/14
Outbreak Company anyone? This anime is about teaching foreigners to be otakus and encouraging them to make their own anime.
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Posted 5/16/14

Jnax wrote:

japanese artists wanting to share their art with the world, fair enough. But on the other hand, anime is starting to become less "japanese" and more of a "worldwide" thing.
From what i have a observed so far: The anime community, identifies them selfs as japanese animation fans and thus so
anime art created by the community or otherwise "outside of japan" is not real anime but japanese/anime influenced art. This implies that everyone who watches anime outside of japan is nothing more than a recipient of japanese culture. Thats not a win-win relationship.

You like japanese pop culture?
no? i like anime. fuck japan.


Just posting a simple edit, this thread is complete bs. I was basicly trying to force some kind of made-up agenda that i was attached to after being influenced by some negative articles and point of veiws around the web. So i started to hate on japanese marketing
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"Anime" and "manga" are Japanese terms, so it would make sense for them to be Japanese. I am not sure what the OP is complaining about. Anime is a product of Japanese culture. It's a product made by Japanese creators for a Japanese market (with production work in Korea since about forever and Viet Nam of late). As such, it would make sense for it to be relate-able to a Japanese market by being "Japanese." Japan has an insular/isolationist approach anyway, so it isn't like there are many overtures to make anime a global phenomenon.

As a counterpoint, rock n' roll and dance music were originally American born in African American communities, then went global and lost their roots. I don't know if either is better for it. Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Bo Didley, Frankie Knuckles, Derrick May and Juan Atkins are easily forgotten. Are the musical forms better for the globalization? I would argue that they aren't.

I don't think Anime or manga will ever be global because of how businesses approach them; non-Japanese people using that "style" will only be viewed as mimicking the Japanese. I put a submission in to Dark Horse Comics back in the late '90s when I was still young and had dreams and got shot down for having an "Anime-style" that was booming at the time (this was back when Adam Warren was starting to gain a following). I had myself a deflating and depressing laugh; being born in Japan to a Japanese mother and being raised on Doraemon, Jyarinko Chie and Pa-man, what else would inform my style?

And, not to try and negate everything the OP stated, most of the culturally significant/mainstream titles (as far as Japan is concerned) didn't go global (or at least to an American market), like:
GeGeGe no Kitarou
Doraemon
Sazae-san
Touch
Chibi Maruko-chan
Jyarinko Chie
Atashinchi
Kamui Gaiden
Dokaben
Tensai Bakabon
Ikyu-san
Captain Tsubasa
Hatori-kun

This is because distributors know their markets and know that with a niche market of people fashioning themselves as "otaku," they will gravitate toward certain formulas, so you get the cookie-cutter light novel adaptions, so don't feel bad, OP (and others suffering the butthurt over anime being too Japanese). It could be worse for you all if distributors based their selections off Japanese market tendencies and not their own country's.



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Posted 5/17/14
I dunno about the rest of You, but I absolutely ADORE Japan's "Pop-culture"...From the Anime to Manga, to the Comic Cons...I mean, just ONE TRIP to Akihabara, and if You ever had the thoughts that You may be an Otaku; One glance at Electric town; EVEN ON THE INTERNET, haha...You're made over completely.

I love their Music, and most of all I love Our Community in which 'the whole' of the Pop Culture of Japan; artistically, musically...many other ways...Crunchyroll is just great.

JAPAN is JUST GREAT!
Posted 5/17/14
amine gude jpaan bade
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Posted 5/17/14
Besides anime/manga, I'm personally quite curious about its Japanese community backing among other things. I'm talking stuff like doujins, Touhou, Kantai Collection, and the Voiceroids+LPs.
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Posted 5/17/14
Anime is a Japanese thing, and i hope that it stays that way. I personally wouldn't be bothered if they even stopped dubbing the anime, although i do prefer to watch them in English if i can. But when Dub companies like 4Kids pop up *shudders*, it makes me wish that they would leave the anime alone and just leave them in Japanese
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