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Well, psychopathy and sociopathy aren't recognized in the DSM. The only one that kinda fits the condition is Anti social personality disorder. And the main characteristic of Psychopathy and sociopahy is that the person has no empathy.


You keep saying things that are technically true that I already know about, yet you don't answer the actual questions posed.
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First off, I forgot to write /satire at the end of my post since the term anti-social is often incorrectly interchanged with asocial (though the two are sometimes synonyms). I meant for my post to be a joke, but I guess it's just not my day.. Do people honestly believe that the latter statement of my post was something I think to be a fact?

Also I do[/] believe psychopaths exist lol.


Oh, I'm sorry. I misguidedly believed that people wouldn't joke about such a serious and problematic issues. Now I see. Hah. Hahah. Hahahahahahah. Hahahahahahahahahahahah!

Do you wish to continue?


I think you fail to recognize that everything deserves to be made fun of
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Anti-social personality disorders are pretty misunderstood, in part because of an incorrect assumed correlation with criminality. There is more data related to criminals with the disorder than the non-criminal, but it has been coming to light that there are a significant number of individuals who are disordered that do not engage in criminal activity. One of the primary hallmarks is a sort of disconnect in their minds with the extrapolation of certain kinds of social consequences. They really have a hard time wrapping their heads around why some actions or behaviors are expected and also why people find certain actions and opinions of theirs unacceptable.

I have a friend with a variety of this. It probably helps that I am wired strangely, even if not the same as he is. We understand one another's differences and how they affect us better than most people do. This commonality works well for us. I have emotional responses, but they are qualitatively different than the norm even if there is overlap. My emotional reactions are not always triggered by the same sorts of stimuli as most people. Many find me extremely clinical and describe me as "cold" if I am not artificially enhancing my presentation for them. I get excited, but it doesn't affect me exactly the same way and it does not present in the same way. I am not especially bothered by his behavioral differences. He behaves as I expect him to, even if it is different than how I expect some others to. He seems to like that I am not especially judgmental toward him and that I do not act like he is confusing or a total jerk. We work well as friends to one another, even if our friendship may seem odd to others. He does have a hard time maintaining most long term relationships and does not have very many friends. He's good at making them, not so hot at keeping them. I tend to be the opposite.


You touch my heart.
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I like being anti-social Is that a problem? o-o I never knew :OOO
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Yup.
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Thfelese wrote:

You touch my heart.


Does this mean you find that information touching? That is an interesting response if so. Please don't take offense, I literally mean that it is intriguing to me.

Personally I find it strange, if commonplace, how many people have such a hard time accepting someone as they are. I will help anyone close to me who wants to do so implement changes (so long as they are feasible), but a large number of people seem to want everyone around them to alter or adapt their behaviors or personalities to better suit their personal comfort or needs. I think that this is an unfortunate thing in that it means many people miss out on good things. Like an odd but fulfilling relationship.

Interestingly enough, my friend is currently trying to decide if he wants to try to learn adaptive mechanisms that could help him to appear more normal and to better anticipate possible negative reactions. I have been developing and practicing similar techniques for myself for years, which helps me get along better in "normal" society. He is trying to decide if the effort will be worth it to him. I have motivations to blend in that he lacks, so for him it is a more complicated decision. He is also very impulsive which makes learning and practicing these sorts of methods harder. Just from a cost-benefit analysis, I would take the position that it would be worth his while, if challenging.

I suppose I somewhat beat around the bush in terms of the opening questions.

Yes I believe that antisocial personality disorder is a thing. Psychopathy and sociopathy are dated terms that are used to mean something very similar sometimes, though psychopathy used to include some things now considered schizophrenic. I am not disordered in that fashion. My issues seem closer to Asperger's, but I have been misdiagnosed as autistic and ADD in the past. Many psychological conditions are better described in terms of a continuum rather than as an either/or. So everyone falls somewhere on that continuum, but I would say most people do not fall into the area that would be considered "antisocial". Being antisocial doesn't mean you will use violence or engage in criminal acts, just like you can do those things without being antisocial. The reasons that antisocial persons do not engage in criminal or violent activity is not the same as it is for most people though. I'm not paranoid if there really are people out to get me.
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I like being anti-social Is that a problem? o-o I never knew :OOO


Not at all. I too at times can be anti-social. I'm pretty much a calm minded person so yeah. That counts. lol.
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I wish i have a thoughtful friend like you. Their is something somewhat i don't agree with what you said about

a large number of people seem to want everyone around them to alter or adapt their behaviors or personalities to better suit their personal comfort or needs. I think that this is an unfortunate thing in that it means many people miss out on good things. Like an odd but fulfilling relationship.
those people do that becuse they can't handle "fulfilling relationship".
And good luck to your friend trying out new personality.

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Phersu wrote:


crazysouthsider wrote:


Well, psychopathy and sociopathy aren't recognized in the DSM. The only one that kinda fits the condition is Anti social personality disorder. And the main characteristic of Psychopathy and sociopahy is that the person has no empathy.


You keep saying things that are technically true that I already know about, yet you don't answer the actual questions posed.



I wanted clarification. No psychological organization has sanctioned a diagnosis for either sociopathy or psychopathy. Also both those and antisocial personality disorder are two different things... but they are similar. So which one should I answer?

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All of them.
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I think the word antisocial gets confused with asocial. Anti social implies some sort of violent attitude towards society whereas asocial has more of an attitude of withdrawal. That being said I am asocial, but somewhat sociopathic on the internet. If you wanted to use those kinds of terms. However, for every one of those kinds of collective definitions I have my own definitions that keeps me healthy and happy.
They say asocial, I say uncontaminated
They say bi polar I say I am a representation of the divine polarity within the universe.
They say sociopath. I say social experiment.
They say Aspbergers, I say Im timeless.


As someone with Aspergers, this makes me happy.
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As someone with Aspergers, this makes me happy.


Yay for Aspergers! For reference, I can't really tell the difference. One of my best friends in school had Aspergers, and I had no clue until someone told me years later. I just thought he was cool in a weird way.
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SuzumeAkihana wrote:

As someone with Aspergers, this makes me happy.


Yay for Aspergers! For reference, I can't really tell the difference. One of my best friends in school had Aspergers, and I had no clue until someone told me years later. I just thought he was cool in a weird way.


We're usually the socially awkward ones who obsess with certain things. We also dislike our routine being interrupted and when things don't go as planned.
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We're usually the socially awkward ones who obsess with certain things. We also dislike our routine being interrupted and when things don't go as planned.


Wait, what?

- Socially Awkward. Check.
- Obsesses over certain things. Check.
- Hates when things don't go as planned. Check.
- Hates when someone interrupts my routine. Check.

Huh.
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