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Why So Much "Hatred" For Shinji Ikari?
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I managed to watch 2 episodes of Shinji's whining.
I don't care about your "You have to watch more to judge it"-crap. If i want to judge it from only 2 episodes I will. And I trust AnimeKami's opinion on it, he says he whines all the way through. Life is to short to waste it on shit.
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To hate him would be foolish, he is by far one of the best representations of an actual pubescent teenager-preteen, in that fucked up world and bubble he is in. Even towards the last two episode, the one quote that will always resonate with me is "I am fucked up".. after his well you know, in the hospital...It couldn't fit more perfectly with most of the people watching the anime, beacuse at that point they probably saw their inner selves...For him to not be that pathetic with the personality that would have been created giving his circumstances, would be beyond unrealistic ( in terms of characterization, not their world :P), and make it another cockfest, raw raw shounen.

Not not liking him, is without a doubt reasonable, no one wants to be that pathetic or watch a moron flail around for freaking 26 episodes none stop, but hating him is too much, as his character fits the anime PERFECTLY in everything it wanted to deliver. While am at it, the ending was perfect as well!, simply and utterly fucked up as it should be.
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Right, but don't confuse realism with enjoyable to watch. If they made an anime about raising a baby that consisted entirely of changing diapers and waking you up in the middle of the night that would be pretty accurate but not something worth watching.
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He's too realistic.
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MonkeysxMoo35 wrote:

He didn't get in the robot


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Shrapnel893 wrote:

I don't see any validation in it if you take in the full aspect of his character and all that. Thoughts?


You have seen NGE right? ._.
Posted 4/3/14
He's kind of awesome
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sonic720 wrote:

People see their own human weaknesses in Shinji and crucify him over it... but that was the entire point of his character and the anime.


BEST ANSWER!!! seriously. You saved me a tonne of effort.


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Honestly Shinji is a really well written character. I like him. It's just that he isn't really all that entertaining to watch.
I've said it before: Evangellion is great for people who like to analyse the shows they watch, but is toxic to anyone who is just trying to watch for entertainment.

You can watch Shinji's character growth and come to understand why he is the way he is. Or you can ignore it and just focus on the face level appearance of his character and just moan that you want to see some mechs fighting.


sonic720 wrote:

People see their own human weaknesses in Shinji and crucify him over it... but that was the entire point of his character and the anime.


Posted 4/3/14 , edited 4/3/14
It never made sense to me either. Did anyone know anything about life in a deep meaningful way at 14? None of us knew shit at 14. I know for a fact that I was basically Shinji at 14, all the whining, being afraid, and running away. So for people to hang him for being what a 14 year old is doesn't make any sense, ESPECIALLY in a scenario where you are mankinds only hope and failure means the annihilation of humanity. People gotta get off his back.

And for people who never finished the series who hate him.... really?

He changes so much by the end of the show, it's almost a different character (at least until End of Eva, but we won't talk about that mindfuck........)
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I don't watch anime for realism.
Not even the slice of life animes are that realistic :P

I watch any media, play games to excape reality. I get whining enough irl, from myself and others
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Des85 wrote:

I don't watch anime for realism.
Not even the slice of life animes are that realistic :P

I watch any media, play games to excape reality. I get whining enough irl, from myself and others :P


Haha basically showing what everyone keeps saying, he is too "real", and most anime watchers dont want to see "real" or be reminded of how pathetic their life can/is/ or will be
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Des85 wrote:

I don't watch anime for realism.
Not even the slice of life animes are that realistic :P

I watch any media, play games to excape reality. I get whining enough irl, from myself and others :P


So you don't watch it. that's fine

but there are people out there who put more energy into hating a cartoon character than some fans of the show put into their fandom.

I'm talking people who have obviously watched the whole series and the ovas since they can explain his every failure in detail.

It's one thing not to watch and not to care. I feel that way about a lot of anime and a lot of anime characters.

Heck i like to poke fun at shinji from time to time myself.

BUT

There has to be more than 'I don't like the character so I don't watch the show' to the hate that Shnji Ikari generates. The only person I think is hated more is the 'hero' of school days.

Even Shinji's dad 'the Bastard King' and evergreen contender for 'worst parent in anime' gets some grudging respect for his political skills and as a 'playa' (the number of women he had bent to his will, and WHO they were was... gross. but some guys respect that)



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