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Hi, I'm aware this may be the wrong area, and if the thread must be locked please don't hesitate, but this is my first time trying CR's simulcasts. My problem is: I am trying to watch the stimulcast of Blade and Soul, and everytime I try I get to watch like one minute of it then it acts like I finished the episode and a replay button appears, but after 5-6 reloads I can watch another minute of the show. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

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You have to wait a week. Premium members only during week 1 of release.
(everyone else gets a preview)

All manga and manga 2.5 are for premium members only unless it is the most recent chapter of the manga (i think.) 2.5 is always premium though
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YTprodigy wrote:

Hi, I'm aware this may be the wrong area, and if the thread must be locked please don't hesitate, but this is my first time trying CR's simulcasts. My problem is: I am trying to watch the stimulcast of Blade and Soul, and everytime I try I get to watch like one minute of it then it acts like I finished the episode and a replay button appears, but after 5-6 reloads I can watch another minute of the show. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

Thanks Guys


Hi,

I moved your thread over to support/minor questions, since it seems like a more appropriate place for questions like this. Sounded like you wouldn't mind

As HauAreWe said, the current episode is for Premium members only for now, but next week you should be able to see it with no hitches! Or, you could use a guest pass and see it immediately. Folks often post those over in http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-803801/the-official-guest-pass-thread for others to use, all you'd have to do is get one of the unused codes and put it into http://www.crunchyroll.com/guest_pass, then you'd have 48 hours to enjoy all of the same content premium members do!

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HauAreWe wrote:

You have to wait a week. Premium members only during week 1 of release.
(everyone else gets a preview)

All manga and manga 2.5 are for premium members only unless it is the most recent chapter of the manga (i think.) 2.5 is always premium though


If a show is new on here and being simulcast, will it ever be sealed with the Crown to premium members in the future, my question basically is whats the criterion for the crown/premium member only titles to get sealed off from the other anime provided for free members

Sorry if this is the wrong section to ask this but I just wanted to ask it real fast, and I saw you were online
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If a show is new on here and being simulcast, will it ever be sealed with the Crown to premium members in the future, my question basically is whats the criterion for the crown/premium member only titles to get sealed off from the other anime provided for free members


All shows are unlocked for free members a week after they premiere, unless otherwise noted. The only time I've seen a show disappear (in the US), was Fairy Tale, and that was taken down for both free and premium members.
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muddy120 wrote:

If a show is new on here and being simulcast, will it ever be sealed with the Crown to premium members in the future, my question basically is whats the criterion for the crown/premium member only titles to get sealed off from the other anime provided for free members.

I've been here since before CR went legit at the beginning of 2009, and I don't recall ever seeing an episode revert from being available for free members to being premium only.

I can't say that would never happen, but if it did, it would be in lieu of losing a series altogether (i.e, a series license is up for renewal or it is licensed by a company for home video, and CR is only able to retain it for premium members in that region after that point).




eyeofpain wrote:

The only time I've seen a show disappear (in the US), was Fairy Tale, and that was taken down for both free and premium members.

Technical point: The original Fairy Tail series was premium-only from the start.

That was one of its unusual licensing conditions (the other being that the episodes only were licensed for streaming for 30 days, meaning that 30 days after the series ended, there were no more episodes).

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muddy120 wrote:

If a show is new on here and being simulcast, will it ever be sealed with the Crown to premium members in the future, my question basically is whats the criterion for the crown/premium member only titles to get sealed off from the other anime provided for free members.

I've been here since before CR went legit at the beginning of 2009, and I don't recall ever seeing an episode revert from being available for free members to being premium only.

I can't say that would never happen, but if it did, it would be in lieu of losing a series altogether (i.e, a series license is up for renewal or it is licensed by a company for home video, and CR is only able to retain it for premium members in that region after that point).




eyeofpain wrote:

The only time I've seen a show disappear (in the US), was Fairy Tale, and that was taken down for both free and premium members.

Technical point: The original Fairy Tail series was premium-only from the start.

That was one of its unusual licensing conditions (the other being that the episodes only were licensed for streaming for 30 days, meaning that 30 days after the series ended, there were no more episodes).



I see to put it into perspective, Naruto Part 1 is premium only on here, but Shippuden is not I believe, I don't know the criterion but I'm assuming Part 1 is sealed because its older and not releasing new episodes and simulcasting like Shippuden, granted not all old anime are Premium only like this but that was a scenario to emulate my curiousity, I'm assuming shows like One Piece will never have the backlog Premium based on this assumption because for a long time there were always be new episodes for that series, I can see them eventually doing the Premium lock on the latest ep down the line, But yea thats why I was asking, I guess it just depends on the series and other factors
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muddy120 wrote:

If a show is new on here and being simulcast, will it ever be sealed with the Crown to premium members in the future, my question basically is whats the criterion for the crown/premium member only titles to get sealed off from the other anime provided for free members.

I've been here since before CR went legit at the beginning of 2009, and I don't recall ever seeing an episode revert from being available for free members to being premium only.

I can't say that would never happen, but if it did, it would be in lieu of losing a series altogether (i.e, a series license is up for renewal or it is licensed by a company for home video, and CR is only able to retain it for premium members in that region after that point).




eyeofpain wrote:

The only time I've seen a show disappear (in the US), was Fairy Tale, and that was taken down for both free and premium members.

Technical point: The original Fairy Tail series was premium-only from the start.

That was one of its unusual licensing conditions (the other being that the episodes only were licensed for streaming for 30 days, meaning that 30 days after the series ended, there were no more episodes).



Also how many cases have you seen shows previously region locked, but soon eventually available, and if so how longs the average process? One Piece is basically sealed off from the UK, heard they just started releasing the DVDs even in 2013 from episode 1
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muddy120 wrote:

I see to put it into perspective, Naruto Part 1 is premium only on here, but Shippuden is not I believe, I don't know the criterion but I'm assuming Part 1 is sealed because its older and not releasing new episodes and simulcasting like Shippuden,

The original Naruto series was premium-only from the outset, similar to how the Bleach episodes 265 and lower were premium from the time they were originally posted.


Also how many cases have you seen shows previously region locked, but soon eventually available, and if so how longs the average process? One Piece is basically sealed off from the UK, heard they just started releasing the DVDs even in 2013 from episode 1

While there have been cases of CR obtaining additional regions, the percentage of series that has happened with is low. In the vast majority of those cases, the region expansion has happened within a couple of months.

Frankly, if you look at the regions Toei normally license their properties for, I wouldn't hold out much hope for them extending it to the UK. If they ever did do so for CR, I expect they would do it for all their properties, rather than a single title (unless they did one as simply a test, and in that case, they would likely do it with a new simulcast than an existing series).


Here it how it played out for their two most recent titles (announced for this season):

Rowdy Sumo Wrestler Matsutaro!! was licensed for:
USA, Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Latin America (Central and South America including Mexico), Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Djibouti, Egypt, Estonia, Finland, Georgia, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Kuwait, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lebanon, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Macedonia, Malta, Mauritania, Moldova, Montenegro, Morocco, Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Palestine, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Republic of Ireland, Romania, Russia, San Marino, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Somalia, Spain, Sudan, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Tunisia, Turkey, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, Vatican City, Western Sahara, and Yemen.

That was an improvement over Majin Bone, which was licensed only for:
USA, Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, and Latin America (Central and South America including Mexico).

That was the same as One Piece, but in even in the case of Matsutario!!, a number of eastern European countries (i.e, UK, France, Spain, Portugal, etc.) were omitted.


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I just responded to a similar question a couple of days ago in another thread. If you are looking for reasons, explanations, etc of why they do something, they aren't going to reveal business decisions involving contracts and revenue plans, but we can speculate that it all comes down to money. Some big-name shows probably are quite expensive, but they may have felt that they needed them anyway for credibility, so requiring subscriptions is one way to make up for the acquisition cost and provide an incentive for subscribing.

As for ever seeing a series go back to premium-only, once it had gone "free", the only time I have seen anything remotely approaching that was for either Anohanna, or Usagi Drop, maybe both, can't remember for sure. But the circumstances were that the original license expired, so the show went missing for awhile. Then they brought it back and made it premium for a few months, like they sometimes do with other "normal" catalog pickups. In those cases, they will sometimes make (an older) show fully available to premium users as fast as they can after they get it, but free users only get a couple episodes released over time until it is free again.
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muddy120 wrote:

I see to put it into perspective, Naruto Part 1 is premium only on here, but Shippuden is not I believe, I don't know the criterion but I'm assuming Part 1 is sealed because its older and not releasing new episodes and simulcasting like Shippuden,

The original Naruto series was premium-only from the outset, similar to how the Bleach episodes 265 and lower were premium from the time they were originally posted.


Also how many cases have you seen shows previously region locked, but soon eventually available, and if so how longs the average process? One Piece is basically sealed off from the UK, heard they just started releasing the DVDs even in 2013 from episode 1

While there have been cases of CR obtaining additional regions, the percentage of series that has happened with is low. In the vast majority of those cases, the region expansion has happened within a couple of months.

Frankly, if you look at the regions Toei normally licensing their properties, I wouldn't hold out much hope for them extending it to the UK. If they ever did do so for CR, I expect they would do it for all their properties, rather than a single title (unless they did one as simply a test, and in that case, they would likely do it with a new simulcast than an existing series).



Man I feel so sorry for them lol, hope its not a permanent thing forever excluding them from titles, but we'll see, Also been meaning to ask Crunchyroll licensed One Piece directly from Toei correct? and not like Funimation, cause the Funimation logo is used here, idk if that was just chosen because thats the way OP is percieved in the US with the Funimation DVDs or not, because I was concerned if Thriller Bark episodes would have issues getting on here or not because Funimation just licensed Season 6 but its gonna take awhile for them to release through the year and places like Hulu & Funimations website have a gap from ep 335/336 until the simulcast began for the series with episode 391
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muddy120 wrote:

Also been meaning to ask Crunchyroll licensed One Piece directly from Toei correct? and not like Funimation, cause the Funimation logo is used here,...

I'm curious at what point you are seeing the Funimation logo in the episodes here. I just checked episode 1 and 639, and neither showed a Funimation logo at the beginning.

That said, I do know that when Neon Alley (Viz) licensed One Piece for streaming, the articles stated Funimation acted as Toei's agent, so that could be the same situation with CR's licensing.

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muddy120 wrote:

Also been meaning to ask Crunchyroll licensed One Piece directly from Toei correct? and not like Funimation, cause the Funimation logo is used here,...

I'm curious at what point you are seeing the Funimation logo in the episodes here. I just checked episode 1 and 639, and neither showed a Funimation logo at the beginning.

That said, I do know that when Neon Alley (Viz) licensed One Piece for streaming, the articles stated Funimation acted as Toei's agent, so that could be the same situation with CR's licensing.



When I say funimation logo, I mean the Golden Logo they use for the DVDs, and because the normal logo was tainted by 4kids I believe over here so they replaced it with this new logo




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