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There's always reason to lie an not to lie as well as consequences. Often when we lie it's because there is a greater purpose behind the subject. Sometimes it's good, and sometimes not. The important thing to realize is this: truth can be just as risky as lying. Often I think you can't judge a lie just because it's a lie, but rather you have to judge it as to whether malicious was intended. Someone who tells the truth can easily be just as wrong doing as a liar.
So why do most people view lying as bad? I believe it's because lies with a harmful intent behind then are often much larger then once that are nice. They get more attention, and have much more sever consequences.
In the end, I would say that lying can be justifiable, but it should be excessive. I think it's neither good nor bad, but just there, and people have to decide for themselves what it is. Finally, lying can make me feel both good and bad, it's all based on what happens in the situations.
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I'm an honest liar. Lying is your best friend when living in a world built off lies. Someone quote that when I'm dead if it wasn't stolen off of some obscure philosopher I've never heard of.

When doing just about anything, whether it be lying to murder to helping some feeble old man across the street, it's done out of self-interest, not for the person you are feeding off of or the old fart you helped across the street. What is there to be gained? That is the key question.
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Depends on the lie. For example (and this is more of a white lie), I remember when I was at school and had a project I was working on. At one point the teacher asked for an update on how much progress we'd made. I told her I'd added 3 more paragraphs since we last met up (even though I hadn't) and as such avoided the hassle of getting told off. I also did all the work anyway. In that case I avoided getting told off, and I finished the whole thing for the deadline anyway. Was it so terrible that I lied that time? Probably not. Infact if I ever saw her again and told her she probably wouldn't give a crap.

However, if you're in a situation where you can't tell your partner you want to break up and end up seeing someone else behind their back then, yeah, you're a piece of shit for something like that.
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People lie all the time.
I recently saw a Jim Carrey movie about it, and now I know that lying is good for society.
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Phersu wrote:

Is there any justification for a lie? Do you condone lying? Is it a bad thing or a good thing? How does it make you feel?



Yes, depends, depends, depends.

Lies are necessary. There is no way people could go through life telling the truth all the time, in every situation. Not in the society we live in.

I don't condone lying that would hurt innocent people. Like lying to your spouse about your affair. That's not right. I don't even like little white lies, like lying to a girlfriend about how she looks or lying to your parents about your homework. I especially dislike people who lie just for lying's sake. Like, if I ask how your summer went and you make up some story about a vacation you never took instead of saying you just stayed at home. There's no harm in telling the truth in those situations. It's ridiculous.

However, sometimes it's best to lie for self-preservation, and I understand that. An out-there example would be if a stranger approached you with a gun and asked where your family lives. Who wouldn't lie? I know that's quite a hypothetical situation, but things like that can happen. Maybe not quite on the same scale, but when you risk something very important like the safety of your family on telling the truth, then it's completely understandable to lie. That's why there can't be any universal rule saying you must tell the truth at all times. It's just not realistic.
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nope i don't like lying, there's ways to avoid telling the truth without having to lie about it
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People who lie a lot lose trust, so there is that. Still i think lying at times is ok. For instant if you lie with the intent to make someone else happy it's fine sometimes.
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For me personally there is never a reason to lie. I think it's a waste of time.
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Aokidanza wrote:


Phersu wrote:

Is there any justification for a lie? Do you condone lying? Is it a bad thing or a good thing? How does it make you feel?



Yes, depends, depends, depends.

Lies are necessary. There is no way people could go through life telling the truth all the time, in every situation. Not in the society we live in.

I don't condone lying that would hurt innocent people. Like lying to your spouse about your affair. That's not right. I don't even like little white lies, like lying to a girlfriend about how she looks or lying to your parents about your homework. I especially dislike people who lie just for lying's sake. Like, if I ask how your summer went and you make up some story about a vacation you never took instead of saying you just stayed at home. There's no harm in telling the truth in those situations. It's ridiculous.

However, sometimes it's best to lie for self-preservation, and I understand that. An out-there example would be if a stranger approached you with a gun and asked where your family lives. Who wouldn't lie? I know that's quite a hypothetical situation, but things like that can happen. Maybe not quite on the same scale, but when you risk something very important like the safety of your family on telling the truth, then it's completely understandable to lie. That's why there can't be any universal rule saying you must tell the truth at all times. It's just not realistic.


Lies are not necessary. Even in your hypothetical situation and a stranger approaches you with a gun and asks where your family lives. Say you lie and give him a false address and he then goes to that address and kills the family there. You'd be setting those people up for something because you couldn't just tell the person that you weren't going to tell him where you live. Not only that but what stops him from making you take him there to check your story out? Or better yet he takes your wallet from you and reads the address off your ID.

You want to protect someone? Don't say anything at all. All lying ever does is get you in trouble. It might seem like it saved you today or kept you from having to deal with something for another day or so but it will only come back around to haunt you or just eat at you and most likely it will not have the intended effect that you want it to.

You're right about one thing, no one will go through life telling the truth all the time but like I said you don't have to say anything at all ether.
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Personally, I feel there is a time and a place for a lie. In general you want to be as honest with people as possible, but there are certain situations where telling the truth is just to make you feel better instead of doing what's best. For example, my boyfriend has kidney stones and was worried that he had kidney failure. He was looking up symptoms online and was getting horribly, horribly, stressed out to the point of panic attacks. He would ask me if I thought he might have kidney failure and, although there was evidence he might, I told him I didn't think so. I told him that I didn't think so because he had a doctors appointment the next day and telling him I thought so would only put him in a panic for no reason. We went to the doctor and he's all fine.

Honestly, I feel he would have gotten mad at me for being honest with him haha. He was looking for comfort, not the truth.
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White Lies and Red Lies

Personally I don't see the point in lying. Unless you are just bullshitting around, then whats the point? The small gains aren't worth obtaining when you cut the corners with lies.
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Phersu wrote:

Is there any justification for a lie? Do you condone lying? Is it a bad thing or a good thing? How does it make you feel?



Is there any justification for being truthful, whether all of the time or any other rate?

If you want to go by the http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/justification definition of justification, yes, lies are justifiable if defending something, whether good, bad, or indifferent.

On condoning, depends on the situation.

Whether it's good or bad is totally relative. It's also not such a simple matter of not telling the truth either. Is omission lying? I'm not talking about a lie of omission. Just plain omission. It's not telling the complete truth.

How it makes one feel depends on the situation, I would imagine.

I always thought Garak on DS9 had a novel way of looking at truth. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Elim_Garak
Posted 4/5/14
I can't stand compulsive liars. Little white lies are okay. But I know two people who are compulsive liars, and I really have a hard time trusting whatever comes out of their mouth. It could be a little thing like what they had for breakfast, and I wouldn't even believe it.

But other than that, it depends on the situation in which the lie is applied. Like maybe if you don't want to hang out with a friend because you're lazy, so you say "Oh, sorry man, I can't. I'm helping my grandma clean her house later." Voila. You avoided hurting their feelings, and you can relax. But you shouldn't do that all the time. They'd get suspicious.
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To those who are saying that lying is always wrong - if by lying you could save the life of someone you love, with noone suffering as a result, would it still be wrong for you to lie?

What if, instead of someone you love, it is your own life that is at stake?
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