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Posted 4/5/14
I lie a lot to protect myself.

for e.g., when my boss asks me, "is everything ok?", I always reply, "Yeah everything's ok, it's all rainbows and butterflies"... when in reality certain people are jerks.
but if I tell the truth, I know my boss will be taking actions and there'll be more trouble. So I need to lie to protect myself and avoid workplace conflict and I don't wanna be known as the "complainer" or a "snitch".


and of course, I lie in every job interview. idk why they even bother asking this question, "Why did you apply for this job?" because I need the fucking money? duh...
I always have to lie... that I'm passionate about this and that. when I'm really in the job to fund my phd studies and art supplies. But I can't tell them the truth, can I?

But would never lie to cause harm to others, make up stuff about others, or harm others for my own benefits.



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There are always shades of grey but generally speaking: Lying is for cowards.
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We all lie. Nothing wrong with that. It's just important to lie for the right reasons.
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Even microbes lie to keep from getting isolated.

It's a built-in mechanism.
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flavs45 wrote:

Lies are not necessary. Even in your hypothetical situation and a stranger approaches you with a gun and asks where your family lives. Say you lie and give him a false address and he then goes to that address and kills the family there. You'd be setting those people up for something because you couldn't just tell the person that you weren't going to tell him where you live. Not only that but what stops him from making you take him there to check your story out? Or better yet he takes your wallet from you and reads the address off your ID.

You want to protect someone? Don't say anything at all. All lying ever does is get you in trouble. It might seem like it saved you today or kept you from having to deal with something for another day or so but it will only come back around to haunt you or just eat at you and most likely it will not have the intended effect that you want it to.

You're right about one thing, no one will go through life telling the truth all the time but like I said you don't have to say anything at all ether.


True, you could just keep quiet. But that isn't bad? You're not telling the truth. You're refusing to say anything at all. In this situation, that would probably piss the dude off and he would shoot you, THEN take your wallet and locate your family. Whereas if you had lied, and he had believed you, you and the people you care about would be safe. If the dude then killed another family anyways, it would be terrible, but I would place absolutely no blame on the person that lied. Sometimes you have to prioritize, especially in such a stressful and overwhelming situation. I truthfully don't know what I would do in said situation, but I can completely understand and accept why someone would lie.

Now, that's an extreme life-or-death example, which is really the only instance where lies can be necessary to ensure your survival. In any other, more mundane situation, I agree that lies are completely unnecessary and counterproductive. But if someone tells a little white lie every now and then, I won't get pissed at them. I'd just prefer they tell the truth.
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Aokidanza wrote:

True, you could just keep quiet. But that isn't bad? You're not telling the truth. You're refusing to say anything at all. In this situation, that would probably piss the dude off and he would shoot you, THEN take your wallet and locate your family. Whereas if you had lied, and he had believed you, you and the people you care about would be safe. If the dude then killed another family anyways, it would be terrible, but I would place absolutely no blame on the person that lied. Sometimes you have to prioritize, especially in such a stressful and overwhelming situation. I truthfully don't know what I would do in said situation, but I can completely understand and accept why someone would lie.

Now, that's an extreme life-or-death example, which is really the only instance where lies can be necessary to ensure your survival. In any other, more mundane situation, I agree that lies are completely unnecessary and counterproductive. But if someone tells a little white lie every now and then, I won't get pissed at them. I'd just prefer they tell the truth.


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Phersu wrote:


Aokidanza wrote:

True, you could just keep quiet. But that isn't bad? You're not telling the truth. You're refusing to say anything at all. In this situation, that would probably piss the dude off and he would shoot you, THEN take your wallet and locate your family. Whereas if you had lied, and he had believed you, you and the people you care about would be safe. If the dude then killed another family anyways, it would be terrible, but I would place absolutely no blame on the person that lied. Sometimes you have to prioritize, especially in such a stressful and overwhelming situation. I truthfully don't know what I would do in said situation, but I can completely understand and accept why someone would lie.

Now, that's an extreme life-or-death example, which is really the only instance where lies can be necessary to ensure your survival. In any other, more mundane situation, I agree that lies are completely unnecessary and counterproductive. But if someone tells a little white lie every now and then, I won't get pissed at them. I'd just prefer they tell the truth.


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Yes there is justification, if there is a reason then yes I condone lying, lying is neither good nor bad, but there are certain times when it is more necessary than others, I don't notice when I lie, so nothing.
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Aokidanza wrote:


flavs45 wrote:

Lies are not necessary. Even in your hypothetical situation and a stranger approaches you with a gun and asks where your family lives. Say you lie and give him a false address and he then goes to that address and kills the family there. You'd be setting those people up for something because you couldn't just tell the person that you weren't going to tell him where you live. Not only that but what stops him from making you take him there to check your story out? Or better yet he takes your wallet from you and reads the address off your ID.

You want to protect someone? Don't say anything at all. All lying ever does is get you in trouble. It might seem like it saved you today or kept you from having to deal with something for another day or so but it will only come back around to haunt you or just eat at you and most likely it will not have the intended effect that you want it to.

You're right about one thing, no one will go through life telling the truth all the time but like I said you don't have to say anything at all ether.


True, you could just keep quiet. But that isn't bad? You're not telling the truth. You're refusing to say anything at all. In this situation, that would probably piss the dude off and he would shoot you, THEN take your wallet and locate your family. Whereas if you had lied, and he had believed you, you and the people you care about would be safe. If the dude then killed another family anyways, it would be terrible, but I would place absolutely no blame on the person that lied. Sometimes you have to prioritize, especially in such a stressful and overwhelming situation. I truthfully don't know what I would do in said situation, but I can completely understand and accept why someone would lie.

Now, that's an extreme life-or-death example, which is really the only instance where lies can be necessary to ensure your survival. In any other, more mundane situation, I agree that lies are completely unnecessary and counterproductive. But if someone tells a little white lie every now and then, I won't get pissed at them. I'd just prefer they tell the truth.


You're not refusing to say anything at all. You're telling him that you won't give up you're family's address and that is the truth. The only thing you're not doing is answering his question. Also. I'm curious, in what world do you live in that a person whom is about to go kill a whole family just lets you go if you tell him where you live? Oh here's a random address you gave me you best be on your way I've got some murdering to do! Why would he leave you alive? Why wouldn't he just kill you in the first place and take your wallet? What if he drags you a long to this other family's house kills em, makes you watch and then then when he finds out its not yours and asks you again? Will you keep lying until he's killed a couple more? Tell me though... how does lying to this killer lead to your survival?

I'm pretty sure people get much more upset when they find out you've lied to them. The only way to go with a clear conscience is to not tell em anything and yes you are a bit to blame if you put a murderer on some unsuspecting persons doorstep to save your own hide and unless you have no heart, guilt like that will follow you wherever you go no matter how many times you tell yourself it wasn't your fault.

Ridiculous hypotheticals aside,the only thing lying does is save ourselves from having to deal with something we don't want to or getting something we want that we don't think we can get any other way. In the end though lying usually just blows up in our faces and causes more harm than good.

You talk about little white lies... things people usually don't care about so they don't even think to suspect. How can I trust someone when they can't even tell me the truth about something that doesn't matter? Continue to lie to someone about even little things and it will continue to eat away at whatever trust you had. If these things are so little why is there even a need to lie?
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Posted 4/5/14 , edited 4/5/14
People who say they dont lie are the biggest liars.
Example-
Wife-Does this dress make me look fat
Husband-Nope

Wife-Does the food taste good
Husband-Yes

Sometimes you gotta lie to spare people hurt feelings
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Posted 4/5/14
lie? mostly never. i find its eaiser to tell the truth and deal with it, cus other wise i lose track of the lies i tell to cover the lies.

tho telling a half truth, or an unrelated truth at the right time works for me :)
the idea is not to lie, but to direct them to belive what you want them to.
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Lies are part of life, yes.

Lie in a manner to hurt somebody I care about? Not so much.
Posted 4/5/14
Everybody lies. The truth hurts most of the time and people are cowards most of the time....
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kuuderes_shadow wrote:

To those who are saying that lying is always wrong - if by lying you could save the life of someone you love, with noone suffering as a result, would it still be wrong for you to lie?

What if, instead of someone you love, it is your own life that is at stake?


In what kind of situation would this be applicable?
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There is a time and a place for lying.
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