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Posted 4/6/14
Inconvenient truth or reassuring lie, that is the question. Reality is people live by self-interest and will do what it takes as long as it serves them. So, they lie. It's natural-like higher form of camouflage.
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It depends on your reasoning and intentions, honestly. I tell white lies all the time.

For example, if someone asks me if I want to hang out, I usually tell them that I am busy with homework or that I am feeling a bit "under the weather," when I just want to stay home in solitude. It best serves my interest and no one's feelings get hurt. It's better than telling them the honest reason for not wanting to hang out, because then you just end up hurting people. It's called ethical egoism.
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You're not refusing to say anything at all. You're telling him that you won't give up you're family's address and that is the truth. The only thing you're not doing is answering his question. Also. I'm curious, in what world do you live in that a person whom is about to go kill a whole family just lets you go if you tell him where you live? Oh here's a random address you gave me you best be on your way I've got some murdering to do! Why would he leave you alive? Why wouldn't he just kill you in the first place and take your wallet? What if he drags you a long to this other family's house kills em, makes you watch and then then when he finds out its not yours and asks you again? Will you keep lying until he's killed a couple more? Tell me though... how does lying to this killer lead to your survival?

I'm pretty sure people get much more upset when they find out you've lied to them. The only way to go with a clear conscience is to not tell em anything and yes you are a bit to blame if you put a murderer on some unsuspecting persons doorstep to save your own hide and unless you have no heart, guilt like that will follow you wherever you go no matter how many times you tell yourself it wasn't your fault.

Ridiculous hypotheticals aside,the only thing lying does is save ourselves from having to deal with something we don't want to or getting something we want that we don't think we can get any other way. In the end though lying usually just blows up in our faces and causes more harm than good.

You talk about little white lies... things people usually don't care about so they don't even think to suspect. How can I trust someone when they can't even tell me the truth about something that doesn't matter? Continue to lie to someone about even little things and it will continue to eat away at whatever trust you had. If these things are so little why is there even a need to lie?


This hypothetical situation is getting out of hand. Too many variables. I was thinking more of a situation like if you told him where your family was, he'd let you live. But as I said before, it's a rather out-there situation and there's no point arguing about it, really.

I still stand firm that there is no absolute "thou shall not lie" rule. There can't possibly be, because the world doesn't work in moral absolutes. There are always exceptions. There are always reasons and situations that we can't possibly predict in which our "rules" will be broken.

You say lying usually"blows up in our faces. I believe that is true. Sometimes people are willing to take that risk, or can't see any other option (as you put it, "getting something we want that we don't think we can get any other way"). It helps to be a bit flexible and understanding of a person's reasons before we judge them. Not to say that their reasoning always justifies their decision, but it can put the decision in a different perspective.

You say white lies are lies about things that don't matter. Maybe to you they don't matter, but to someone else, in the moment, it might have seemed imperative to lie. Maybe they thought that if they told the truth, something terrible would happen. Still doesn't justify the lie, but that's why I wouldn't necessarily get mad and deem them an untrustworthy person. They're just human.

True, lying is essentially used to save your own skin, but there are still instances where I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I'll use a situation from a previous poster that I think works better here. You go to a job interview for a position/company/whatever that you don't really like, but it pays well and you need the money. Say you've been unemployed for a while or you need to pay debts or you have a family or whatever. You really need the money. The interviewer asks you what drew you to the company, what you like about it, ect. Are you going to say you're just there for the money? Or give a nice, albeit false, response instead?

We can go on all day about the variables in that situation. Maybe the interviewer would better appreciate the truth and be more likely to hire you if you didn't lie. Maybe he wouldn't. The point is: we don't know. We don't know a lot of things, even in real-life situations. So we have to take a guess. We have to take a chance, despite the repercussions. We could stick by the "don't lie" rule, but it's hard to apply when there are so many things that you just don't know.

A lie here isn't trying to hurt anyone, it's just trying to help yourself in a difficult situation. Millions of people face this exact same kind of situation all the time. Are they all bad people for lying? No. They're just trying to make a living. I can't, in good conscience, fault them for that. You may see it differently. That's fine. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.
Posted 4/7/14
Lol only to customers trying to grab my number and start sweet talking i just say " i have a boyfriend". And then they walk away lololol.
Posted 4/12/14
Honestly, I've done my share of lies. Nothing really good can come from it because the truth will always come out. I try not to lie anymore though. Do I condone it? In certain Instances, but no; not really. As to how it makes me feel, I may feel good about telling a lie; but I'll feel the pain later.
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Posted 4/14/14
It depends on the situation. I hate it when people lie to impress other people, but sometimes you need to lie to get out of a situation. Sometimes I just lie to my friends because its funny lol .
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Posted 4/14/14
Depend on the circumstance because sometime you have to do it to protect yourself.
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Posted 4/15/14
It depends on the situation, honestly. In general I would say that it's not a good idea to lie, but not always.
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Posted 4/15/14
I lie about anything that could put me in a negative spot, as long as i'm sure it won't negatively affect anyone else. Otherwise, I'll tell the truth even if it's a little bit more painful than the lie would have been.

Lying isn't wrong, it's a basic human defense mechanism, if it doesn't affect the other person in any way why should you tell the truth if it's going to negatively affect you?

Of course if your lie could end up seriously hurting someone, don't do it. Telling the truth shortens and lessens the inevitable pain you're going to have to go through.


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Posted 4/15/14 , edited 4/15/14
I used to lie about doing my homework. Although now I don't have homework so now I don't lie.


But in all seriousness lying typically isn't the best idea.
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Posted 4/15/14
If people could be counted on to rationally hear and accept a truth they don't agree with I wouldn't lie.
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Posted 4/15/14
I lie all the time. It may not be the best way but it sure the hell is the easiest
Posted 4/15/14
I lied to my sister last night ..

I told her I didn't read her Yaoi manga before her but I did ..

Yes I fucking did .. and it was explicit 8 by 11 type shit...

Eyegasms all the way .
Posted 4/15/14
Lying is good for my soul. I'm a liar. And I feel like lying when I'm a liar.
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