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Is Bullying Justifiable?
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Bullying is justified, no matter how you look at it. It teaches you real world situations at a young age, the strong control the weak. Now go kill yourself NERD!
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Nope. Never.
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Bullying is never justifiable
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It sounds like your gripe isn't about bullying, but instead about capitalism and materialism. Study economics before you start saying that the health of the global population is being hurt by capitalism. It's easy to criticize capitalism when you're sitting in a plush chair inside your air conditioned apartment while looking at pictures of starving children in sub-Sahara Africa. The reality, I assure you, is much different than you see on the internet.

*To add a bit of credibility to myself: I'm an MBA in Economics that specializes in socioeconomics, or the study of the impact of economics on the people that live in said economies.
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No. Two wrongs don't make a right. Just like Karma take care of it.
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Finland knew how to respond to Russian bullies...inflict casualties. In the winter war Finland inflicted 5 times as many casualties
as they took. The russians lost 125,000 troops trying take over finland. Yes finland lost territory but they still had an independent country and Russia didnt mess with them again content to find easier targets.

Yeah it didnt change the ultimate outcome of the war but Finland remained a democratic country after the war which is impressive considering all other european countries bordering the soviet union became communist.
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Mr_Spudwheat wrote:

As much as I'm not entirely thrilled to say it; there is a gray area here.

If you've been stuck in a wheelchair since birth, or came to realize you can only love your own gender, and someone's giving you shit for it, there's a mile-long line of people ready and waiting to be your shield in this wonderful age we live in; let someone know, and help is on the way.

BUT

If you're hazed daily in your school for being the kid who doesn't shower, and your response is anything besides -TAKING A SHOWER-, you are now the architect of your own Hell; enjoy the black eyes...then take a shower.

Some things cannot be helped, but life is a survival game, and you're only the underdog if you're trying to compete.


But then you can say 'what if they have a bad problem with their waterworks and can't have a shower', do they then deserve to be bullied? If they were being mocked about their smell after, say, 4 days, and were due to have repairs done in a week then it's not fair. It's not like it's incomprehensible to have something get in the way of having a shower. A response like 'enjoy the black eyes...then take a shower.' then makes you sound like a dick. There isn't always that element of choice where you may initially believe their is. In that situation on the one hand you have the kid who wasn't to know the victim's shower was broken, but that doesn't undo the fact they bullied anyway. What you're essentially saying is 'making assumptions can make bullying justifiable, just assume you know what's going on'. That or you just chose a really bad example where a choice isn't always there. If you don't know why the victim is doing something, don't bully them, you'll just make things far worse for them than they already are.

In my opinion bullying is never justifiable. If you feel the need to pick on someone who has done nothing wrong to you, or purposely tried to cause you annoyance/harm beforehand you're a horrible person (unless there is the technicality of a mental issue you were born with). If there's a motive involved, I'd call that revenge as opposed to bullying.
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Bullying is one of the main reasons behind suicides in young people. Also is a reason people go on rampages, if people left each other alone we wouldnt have these problems
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PauPow wrote:

I don't think so. Bullying is never justifiable since two wrongs don't make one right. Committing an injustice to someone based on revenge just creates more injustice. Just to be sure we are on the same page by bullying I understand "The use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively impose domination over others." I don't think anyone deserves that (just my opinion).

"An Eye for an Eye Will Make the Whole World Blind" Gandhi.


No it won't, How's the last blind guy going to take the eye out of the last guy left?
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:


Mr_Spudwheat wrote:

As much as I'm not entirely thrilled to say it; there is a gray area here.

If you've been stuck in a wheelchair since birth, or came to realize you can only love your own gender, and someone's giving you shit for it, there's a mile-long line of people ready and waiting to be your shield in this wonderful age we live in; let someone know, and help is on the way.

BUT

If you're hazed daily in your school for being the kid who doesn't shower, and your response is anything besides -TAKING A SHOWER-, you are now the architect of your own Hell; enjoy the black eyes...then take a shower.

Some things cannot be helped, but life is a survival game, and you're only the underdog if you're trying to compete.


But then you can say 'what if they have a bad problem with their waterworks and can't have a shower', do they then deserve to be bullied? If they were being mocked about their smell after, say, 4 days, and were due to have repairs done in a week then it's not fair. It's not like it's incomprehensible to have something get in the way of having a shower. A response like 'enjoy the black eyes...then take a shower.' then makes you sound like a dick. There isn't always that element of choice where you may initially believe their is. In that situation on the one hand you have the kid who wasn't to know the victim's shower was broken, but that doesn't undo the fact they bullied anyway. What you're essentially saying is 'making assumptions can make bullying justifiable, just assume you know what's going on'. That or you just chose a really bad example where a choice isn't always there.


An inspired addendum, sir; allow me to clarify!

I did not intend to, by any means, convey a support for bullying here. My hope was to deliver a message along the lines of "If common sense can remedy the situation, apply as necessary; if not, proceed to victim protocols."

It seems I have failed in this regard, good looking out!
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madmejis wrote:

Bullying is justified, no matter how you look at it. It teaches you real world situations at a young age, the strong control the weak. Now go kill yourself NERD!


Darwinism lol
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bullying builds character
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Bullying: to use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force them to do something.

This is a tough one. In its definition, history and morality isn't taken into account. I would say that bullying isn't justifiable because it's unfair. But I believe it should be.

Have you ever had a bad day and inexorably lashed out at someone? Regardless as to whether it made an impact on either yours or their lives, it could have been handled differently, but you just couldn't be - and didn't want to be - in control. I know I have. And while I'm lucky to be around people who understand this is natural and don't get offended on the extremely rare occasion wherein I lose my temper, some people aren't.

A man commits a pretty bad crime. There's no need to go into specifics, but there was a victim whose life had been affected until the very end of it. Given this information - and since we can't change the past - it's necessary to make sure this doesn't happen again. Talking to him is a kind method, but he simply won't listen to reason. At this point, punishing (bullying) the man is the next moral step to take, so he learns not to do it again. If he learns what it's like to be victimized, he can empathise with other people which should prevent further crimes. The definition I put up at the beginning of this post mentions to typically "force them to do something". Here, the idea is to use force to stop them from doing something again.

That's justifiable, right?

It is - on its own. But why would he decide to commit it in the first place? Who knows what he has lived through. Most bullies end up bullying because they have already been victimized. They need to see that they are not the only ones. Whether they've received abuse first-hand or just experienced something which ruined everything, they are a victim, and, if having a bad day can cause you to lash out at someone, what could having a bad year cause?

Now it doesn't seem right to victimize the criminal. He's already a victim. He knows what it's like. Yet you're just going to victimize him anyway? Who is the bully now? He still deserves punishment, but does he actually deserve punishment?

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Bullying is bad. It's straight-up unfair. Life is unfair. The only way to stop bullying is to teach people that some occurrences, such as death, divorce or destruction cannot be changed, and you can only move onwards. That way, you can accept how life is. You won't have bad days. You won't have bad years. And only those who bully without reason will be punished. Then, bullying them back will be justifiable, but only to the same scale.

It's a shame it's not like that.
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I've never found it to be a useful tool. You get compliance, sometimes but you never solve the problem.
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I believe bullying shouldn't be allowed, at all.

I use to be bullied severely until I became the bully one day and I can recall not once a person deserved to be bullied. I'm glad I finally grew out of it and gave my apologies to those I've affected. There is just absolutely no reason why someone should be bullied.

My motto is to kill someone with kindness. It works, and you don't affect the person negatively and yourself as well, preventing yourself from being a bully.

And honestly, I don't understand why people would bully. You don't benefit off it and it just gives you a bad reputation.
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