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or does having half-baked Japanese appear to make sub versions less enjoyable? It may just be that I'm experiencing anime burn-out or have been watching inferior anime or even due to the concern itself but being able to understand the audio to some degree while reading the subs coinciding with this kind of concerns me. If such a problem exists, I sure haven't heard about it from anyone ever.


You other learners still feeling at 100% with subs? I'm mainly looking at the ones who can understand the language at normal spoken speed though not necessarily understanding every word, just being able to hear them.
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Personally, I haven't found much to be considered "Half-Baked" and I watch an ungodly amount of anime (especially when studying). Though I've been studying Japanese for a few years now so a majority of it seems pretty standard to me. However, they do tend to use more English words now but that isn't something I find completely new either. They mimic our culture more and more as we try to mimic theirs, it's rather funny.

Also keep in mind that after a while your brain will and can associate the words. It could be that you're watching so much of a certain genre/type that they are using a lot of the same words/phrases/slang and you're getting better at putting the pieces together. Repetition and immersion are the best ways to learn a language.
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Posted 4/4/14 , edited 4/4/14
I don't mean anime that uses half-baked Japanese, I mean when YOU have half-baked Japanese.

You never get distracted from your enjoyment because the language is no longer noise and is now something you can pay attention to?
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Ohhh No. I don't run into that issue because it's still a learning experience for me. Until I can fully watch it without subs at all, it still interests me. I actually find it more enjoyable when I don't have to pay 100% percent to subtitles because it means I'm not only adapting and learning but now I can watch even more because I can multi-task even more. (Like right now I'm killing Nisekoi and studying for my Japanese exam). I can actively do both because I can understand enough to look away for a moment ot only have to have half a glance (though fight scenes require my full attention and shows like Steins Gate/Robotics Notes require my full attention because so much important things are going on.)

The only time I find it hard to pay attention is when I'm so stoned that it no longer sounds like Japanese. It's happened before and let me tell you how worrisome it is when Japanese turns into English.
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Posted 4/4/14 , edited 4/4/14
I find it frustrating sometimes since at times I would lose my concentration on the subs and miss bits of the dialogue. Strangely enough, reading subs began to take me more effort after some point. It used to be effortless and unconscious, now I'm like "alright, how did I use to do it"?
Posted 4/4/14 , edited 4/4/14
idk. it's probably just you.

cuz when I watch English movies, I need the English subs. don't understand what they're saying sometimes. and the subs make it clearer for me.




movies in my mother tongue, I can watch without subs.

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I watch everything with subs.
I always mishear things in English or Japanese, so without subs I completely miss the story.
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I get what you're saying but I definitely agree with Aeon.
Currently I keep forming the sentences in my head while looking at subs.
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Never mind, the irritation disappeared after I read this. Guess it was all in my head.

Hopefully it doesn't return.
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Posted 4/4/14 , edited 4/4/14
I rather watch anime RAW but I can't.
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Only sometimes. Like every once and a while someone will say something and the subs are completely off. I'm never really bothered by it though.
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Posted 4/4/14 , edited 4/4/14

qualeshia3 wrote:

I rather watch anime RAW but I can't.


If you're not gunna pick up the language in the near future, then being content is another(much easier though subtle) way of finding more enjoyment lol. You're never gunna be at your best with anime anyways, and neither will the native Japanese.

Man falls from the pursuit of the ideal of plan living and high thinking the moment he wants to multiply his daily wants. Man's happiness really lies in contentment.
-Mahatma Gandhi

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However, they do tend to use more English words now but that isn't something I find completely new either. They mimic our culture more and more as we try to mimic theirs, it's rather funny.


Heehee. Indeed. And....


Like every once and a while someone will say something and the subs are completely off. I'm never really bothered by it though.


Agreed, once again! Yeaaaaaaaaaahhhh...I notice it, but it's not enough to Upset Me or anything.
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Posted 4/4/14 , edited 4/4/14
I wonder in those cases if the subs are actually wrong or are intentional interpretations, being 1 step ahead of mere translations.

For example, on English Hyperdimensional Neptunia games where the JPN voicing option is available, you're going to run into it a lot more often 'cuz they're doing it on purpose as some jokes don't transfer too well, so it becomes a loosely related joke.
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