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Sir_jamesalot wrote:
But I think a brain can be mapped and the owner of said brain can be stored as they were at the time they were scanned.

Why would anyone want to map that guy's brain...


So he can say "Greetings, programs!"
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if it comes down to the rest of humans dying off in a few thousand years (maybe sooner who knows) and your the only person who can't die on a dying planet, to me that is a living hell


Dude, have you ever walked on your own along a beach? Through a forest? Up a mountain? Have you ever played Minecraft?

At the absolute worst, it would be like being in limbo until the sun explodes. Still better than dying. And this is assuming humans go extinct!

On that note, I don't think humanity dying off in a few thousand years is plausible. The way I see it is if we make it through the next few centuries (easier said than done; nukes, AI, genetically engineered plagues and that's just the stuff we can see coming) then human civilization is here to stay, even if it becomes unrecognizable.
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Rowan93 wrote:


longdanzi103 wrote:

if it comes down to the rest of humans dying off in a few thousand years (maybe sooner who knows) and your the only person who can't die on a dying planet, to me that is a living hell


Dude, have you ever walked on your own along a beach? Through a forest? Up a mountain? Have you ever played Minecraft?

At the absolute worst, it would be like being in limbo until the sun explodes. Still better than dying. And this is assuming humans go extinct!

On that note, I don't think humanity dying off in a few thousand years is plausible. The way I see it is if we make it through the next few centuries (easier said than done; nukes, AI, genetically engineered plagues and that's just the stuff we can see coming) then human civilization is here to stay, even if it becomes unrecognizable.


man when you bring up nukes I think fallout, that would suck being chased by a deathclaw
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Any form of immortality in the real world would almost certainly involve massive body mutilation, therefore it technically wouldn't be immortality since your body wouldn't live forever, only your mind.


You can't just use the word "technically" to cover a questionable philosophical claim. I am not my body, this decaying flesh is a shell that, much like a hermit crab, I will cast aside as soon as a superior one can be found.
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yea but the next thing that you will wish for is death...... xlk
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Reality is cruel, therefore the answer is no.
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What about the prospect of being murdered? No amount of life support could stop a bullet through your skull.


^this guy doesn't know about Malala Yousafzai.
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Can't answer that one without better defining immortality. I will leave aside religious and supernatural versions for now. What I consider true immortality is not possible within our realm of knowledge. Becoming un-aging is certainly possible, though our knowledge and tech are not there yet. We have found a way to treat mice that makes elders function like youths again and actually supercharges youths. No where near human use ready yet, but a step in that direction.

The Hayflick limit happens because of the shortening of the telomeres. These are kind of like caps at the ends of the DNA that help to prevent a portion of the corruption and damage from things like free radicals and radiation. Without them your DNA becomes vastly more fragile and further replication is very dicey, so cells don't. The older a human father is when he sires children, the longer their telomeres are. This has been shown to be cumulative, i.e. each generation gets progressively longer so long as the father waits long enough to start having kids. I do not know if studies have been done in relation to the age of the mother and the effect on the telomeres. In theory it is possible to repair DNA and telomeres with sufficiently advanced tech. In theory it may also be possible to induce stem cells and use them to create new cellular lines to preserve life and function for an aging organism allowing them to be effectively perpetually renewed.

If you "upload" a consciousness it can exist simultaneously alongside the original, which means that logically they are separate and distinct. This makes digital immortality dubious to my thinking. However, you could create a synthetic "brain extension" and connect it to the human brain, allowing thought and function to pass freely back and forth as one continuous computational system. You could augment discreet processes, memory storage, and with enough eventual know how even thought. Eventually the expanded mind would not be too adversely affected by a loss of the organic components, perhaps even replacing them with stem cell grown new tissue as needed. The result may or may not be human depending on how you define humanity, but it would be able to outlive any current limits.

So I do believe we can circumvent aging in a number of ways eventually. We can also probably make ourselves far more resistant to accidental or intentional damage form any number of sources. This would not be true immortality, but it would give us quite a bit more time and a lot more options. I don't really want to be immortal, but I would love to get quite a bit more than 100 years give or take. I figure that I could be pretty stoked about living for at least five centuries. After that, I dunno.
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Haha no, it's not. It's the great truth of life: everything dies.
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HayateGekkou wrote:

Haha no, it's not. It's the great truth of life: everything dies.


Planets die too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvAUvRU5QV0
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Let me think about this, distributing over networks was a good Idea.

I couldn't think of a reasonable, not-completely-stacked-situation where a large group of skilled people would be incapable of sheltering some number of robots/braincode with identical behavioral patterns to the original person.
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Maybe if you were a unicorn :<
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“The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering.” - Bruce Lee
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Not really. My life would suck If I'm immortal. lol.
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