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Anime Fans Are Intolerant of New People Joining the Base
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You know, the releases of Hero Bank, Dragon Collection, and Oreca Battle with all the reactions they've recieved have allowed me to notice something. Quite a few Anime fans are pretty intolerant of new blood joining the ranks. I honestly don't get it. People keep saying that those Anime are targeted towards children, and of course, they are. But isn't that ultimately a good thing? What if there are children that have a parent or guardian that uses Crunchyroll and decides to give it a shot, which may lead to them getting more into Anime now and later in life? Sure, the majority of Crunchyroll users are adults, but I'm willing to bet quite a few of them do have children. Let's face it, most Anime and Manga on this site isn't exactly intended for a young audience. Not to mention, we've gotten at least ten new Anime this season. Is it really that big of a deal if a few are different from the norm and appeal to a different audience?

The Anime industry isn't doing incredibly well. We constantly hear stories of how dubbing companies get into financial binds and how Japanese animation studios use fan service and stick with the most popular genres of the time without diversifying much because they need to continue to keep their already existing consumer base loyal. The Anime Peak has ended; it has ever since the mid-2000's. It's time we started to allow new people into the fan base in order to keep this industry thriving.

Oh, and to anyone who says Anime is immune to mainstream stuff: Ha! How do people honestly believe that? Are you telling me that Anime like SAO, Attack on Titan, or Kill la Kill are in the same bracket as stuff like Saki, Skip Beat, or Nisekoi? Every medium has its own heavy hitters that are way more popular and well-known than most of the other stuff, even if the other stuff is worth checking out. Our Mainstream is just different from the "Main"-Mainstream.

Whoo, that was long. Anyways, that's just something that's kind of annoyed me. Don't get me wrong, the Anime industry is nowhere near dead, but it could get better if people were just a little more open, I think. Well, good-bye.
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>_> I feel like the people who would be intolerant now a-days must be pretty new to anime themselves. New people have been joining the fan base for years and years. To all of a sudden be bothered by it when the growth isn't even that bad anymore (the peak was years ago), kind of suggests that you're pretty new to it yourself. And if you've been a long time anime fan (like, you know, for more then a decade) and you still let stuff like this bother you, then you're pretty weird yourself. Just get over it already. Let people like what they want to like. Really, how does people liking anime effect you in any negative way? If anything, like the OP said, it would benefit you. If you don't like the newbies joining the community, then just ignore them. Don't let your panties get in a bunch.
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Hmmm interesting observation. Like anything, this has pros and cons:

Cons:

There will need to be restricted access to the adult shows and possibly parts of the forums. Adding restrictions will mean re-witing hundreds, if not, and more likely than not, thousands of lines of code; then thorough testing and then debugging. The parents will probably want some sort of GUI that lets them individually set which levels of anime is acceptable; similar to an age rating system like TV-Y7, TVPG, TV-MA etc.. That does not even include CR employees having individually watch and judge from hundreds upon hundreds of animes in CRs database (if this route is even taken). Also, building a GUI to allow parents to set user levels is probably another thousand lines of code for a large site like crunchyroll.

And i really feel that this is the only downside; and this isn't a theoretical downside, it is a requirement for development (unless CR has some sort of secret super human programmers, or some insane CMS that the general public is unaware of). Other than that the only thing that scares me is possibility of a bunch of kids rummaging in our forums, which is also why i suggested restrictions to forums


Pros:

Not only will crunchyroll have a bigger user base, giving CR more leveraging power in obtaining licenses and ultimately giving us users a larger selection to chose from, but the anime industry as a whole will have a future benefit. To start, just by some of us paying the membership fee to CR we are financially supporting the anime industry. That said, of these kids, some of these kids will eventually fall out of anime, but some of these kids will grow up being anime fans. And what happens to kids? They eventually grow up and become working adults and ultimately support the industry by purchasing good like DVDs, wallscrolls t-shirt etc.. along with the CR membership .

It really is important to gather new fan bases, because that is what keep an industry alive and growing. If the anime fans just stayed within us, eventually we would grow old, possibly lose interest, and sadly, we would die. And with no new users, anime would die with us.

I'm also basing what i said, off of what i know, here in the western hemisphere. Im pretty sure children's anime in Japan is alive and healthy just like Nickelodean and Cartoon Network is here in the States.

...or at least i hope so.

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I was new to the fangroup like 3 years ago? I ain't a newnewnewbie, but I still have a lot of shows I haven't watched like some people who watched for 10+ years. I have no problem with new people watching! I am constantly introducing my friends to watch anime... few do, but children have a right to watch good shows. The anime industry is getting better in my opinion... it's easier to watch shows thanks to Funimation and Crunchyroll... You can watch more shows on Crunchyroll though. I think we just need to keep welcoming people... no need to hog the spotlight. I ain't.
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Humans are Intolerant creatures, it's not just the Anime fandom.
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Humans are Intolerant creatures, it's not just the Anime fandom.


Brony fandom *shivers*
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Rather than intolerant, I feel like it's a little more like a misdirected embarrassment?
Kind of like a teenager looking down on a 12 year old kid and being really repulsed because the kid's behavior reminds them so strongly of themselves at that age. You scoff at their naivete and their budding tastes in anime, but you're also still a child for reacting with that sense of superiority.
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I don't care.
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XxNaruTheNarcissistxX wrote:

Hmmm interesting observation. Like anything, this has pros and cons:

Cons:

There will need to be restricted access to the adult shows and possibly parts of the forums. Adding restrictions will mean re-witing hundreds, if not, and more likely than not, thousands of lines of code; then thorough testing and then debugging. The parents will probably want some sort of GUI that lets them individually set which levels of anime is acceptable; similar to an age rating system like TV-Y7, TVPG, TV-MA etc.. That does not even include CR employees having individually watch and judge from hundreds upon hundreds of animes in CRs database (if this route is even taken). Also, building a GUI to allow parents to set user levels is probably another thousand lines of code for a large site like crunchyroll.

And i really feel that this is the only downside; and this isn't a theoretical downside, it is a requirement for development (unless CR has some sort of secret super human programmers, or some insane CMS that the general public is unaware of). Other than that the only thing that scares me is possibility of a bunch of kids rummaging in our forums, which is also why i suggested restrictions to forums


Pros:

Not only will crunchyroll have a bigger user base, giving CR more leveraging power in obtaining licenses and ultimately giving us users a larger selection to chose from, but the anime industry as a whole will have a future benefit. To start, just by some of us paying the membership fee to CR we are financially supporting the anime industry. That said, of these kids, some of these kids will eventually fall out of anime, but some of these kids will grow up being anime fans. And what happens to kids? They eventually grow up and become working adults and ultimately support the industry by purchasing good like DVDs, wallscrolls t-shirt etc.. along with the CR membership .

It really is important to gather new fan bases, because that is what keep an industry alive and growing. If the anime fans just stayed within us, eventually we would grow old, possibly lose interest, and sadly, we would die. And with no new users, anime would die with us.

I'm also basing what i said, off of what i know, here in the western hemisphere. Im pretty sure childrens anime is alive and healthy just like Nickelodean and Cartoon Network is here in the States.

...or at least i hope so.


my kids are 10 and 12 and both like anime. I'm perfectly capable of restricting them without anyone else needing to do it. I'm actually happy that CR runs the gambit as far as genres. It lets all three of us enjoy what we like. sometimes we watch together, and sometimes it's separately. Granted, a lot of parents don't bother keeping track of what their kids do. But, I think more parents are capable and do take that time to... well.. parent, than the general public realizes.
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Are these new shows? Never herd of them including anyone badmouthing them. But I do think you are misreading the fandom reaction to such shows. I have never meet an anime fan who doesn't want anime to gain more fans and increase in popularity; all the anime fans I have meet want anime to have more fans and be more popular.

What really is going on is that some fans who got into anime when it was more mature are upset with the resent trends in anime, and wish that more of the types of show that they like would start begin made again. It isn't that they really have anything against children's anime it's more against the whole moe and hardcore otaku shows that they have a bigger problem with. I mean if you got into anime because of anime like Akira, Ninja Scroll, and Perfect Blue; you probably aren't really going to be into something like K-On or Oreimo.
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AzuresShade wrote:


XxNaruTheNarcissistxX wrote:

Hmmm interesting observation. Like anything, this has pros and cons:

Cons:

There will need to be restricted access to the adult shows and possibly parts of the forums. Adding restrictions will mean re-witing hundreds, if not, and more likely than not, thousands of lines of code; then thorough testing and then debugging. The parents will probably want some sort of GUI that lets them individually set which levels of anime is acceptable; similar to an age rating system like TV-Y7, TVPG, TV-MA etc.. That does not even include CR employees having individually watch and judge from hundreds upon hundreds of animes in CRs database (if this route is even taken). Also, building a GUI to allow parents to set user levels is probably another thousand lines of code for a large site like crunchyroll.

And i really feel that this is the only downside; and this isn't a theoretical downside, it is a requirement for development (unless CR has some sort of secret super human programmers, or some insane CMS that the general public is unaware of). Other than that the only thing that scares me is possibility of a bunch of kids rummaging in our forums, which is also why i suggested restrictions to forums


Pros:

Not only will crunchyroll have a bigger user base, giving CR more leveraging power in obtaining licenses and ultimately giving us users a larger selection to chose from, but the anime industry as a whole will have a future benefit. To start, just by some of us paying the membership fee to CR we are financially supporting the anime industry. That said, of these kids, some of these kids will eventually fall out of anime, but some of these kids will grow up being anime fans. And what happens to kids? They eventually grow up and become working adults and ultimately support the industry by purchasing good like DVDs, wallscrolls t-shirt etc.. along with the CR membership .

It really is important to gather new fan bases, because that is what keep an industry alive and growing. If the anime fans just stayed within us, eventually we would grow old, possibly lose interest, and sadly, we would die. And with no new users, anime would die with us.

I'm also basing what i said, off of what i know, here in the western hemisphere. Im pretty sure childrens anime is alive and healthy just like Nickelodean and Cartoon Network is here in the States.

...or at least i hope so.


my kids are 10 and 12 and both like anime. I'm perfectly capable of restricting them without anyone else needing to do it. I'm actually happy that CR runs the gambit as far as genres. It lets all three of us enjoy what we like. sometimes we watch together, and sometimes it's separately. Granted, a lot of parents don't bother keeping track of what their kids do. But, I think more parents are capable and do take that time to... well.. parent, than the general public realizes.


Awesome, I'm happy to hear about parents actually.. well, parenting lol
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I have no problems with people joining the fandom. As long as they truly love Anime I believe is fine.

As for children Anime: Who the hell has a problem with children Anime!? Children Anime are great!!!

Also I don't get the part about mainstream, can someone explain what he's trying to say? (forgive me for my stupidity.)
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thank ya, thankyaverramuch XD
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TsunLemon wrote:

I have no problems with people joining the fandom. As long as they truly love Anime I believe is fine.

As for children Anime: Who the hell has a problem with children Anime!? Children Anime are great!!!

Also I don't get the part about mainstream, can someone explain what he's trying to say? (forgive me for my stupidity.)


No stupidity on your behalf, what he wrote was barely coherent.
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Well, it's not just anime, it's almost anything that was considered niche all of sudden becoming popular and mainstream. There will always be that core fan base that dislikes the influx of new people joining their fandom. My guess is that those core fans liked whatever it is before it became socially acceptable, and therefore had to suffer for their "beliefs," while this new generation of fans doesn't. It's the same with music, comics or games, certain genres weren't cool or popular and those fans had to endure the ridicule and stigma associated with liking that music, comics, games, etc. Even sports, those who were fans of a certain team before they were good, feel a bit of resentment for those who all became fans afterwards... usually called bandwagon fans.

It seems though, you are talking about the fans who are unhappy with how the genre tries to expand it's fanbase by changing the kind of product it releases. In that case, the same concept applies, except that old time fans feel more disconnected with the genre. Those "old" fans feels that they played a big role in enabling the genre to survive and expand, and feel entitled to a say in the direction and quality of the genre.
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